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Holy poo poo no wonder the guy was able to write the OP in 24 hours or whatever that's like two words an hour.
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Serious no-troll question the OP says "goons vs literally the entire galaxy" and obviously there are a lot of still-loyal allies around, some of whom are really capable. We expanded the definition of Goons from Goonwaffe (as it was) to what is now Goonswam (the alliance) ages ago. Has the term now pretty much come to mean the whole Imperium, in internal use? Something something a lot like Caracalla something imperium something whole empire something AD212.
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Mar 30, 2016 21:47
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evilweasel posted:goons are currently on the quality side of the quantity vs. quality divide, unlike last year 5.5/10 pre-emptive mlmp
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Mar 30, 2016 21:48
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can't we just all focus on the fact that this cycle of creative-destruction, and the ability to trade game time purchased for real money as an in-game commodity, creates a vibrant and meaningful sense of consequence and value?
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Mar 30, 2016 23:26
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Morris posted:I've seen all of these denials that it was a trap, but as far as I know nobody is really denying: The confirmed plan to flip after the fight was, according to the version you're referrring to, conceived after the suggested plan to defend the region was refused, so you're relying on reversing the order there. Seb posted the log that showed that he did *not* insist that the move op follow a certain route, but explicitly said that there are a bunch of possible routes. You rightly question the presence of the smoking hictor traps: someone got a bit carried away with their narrative creation there. Seb did hold his hands up to loving up on not arranging cyno jammers to be put up, although he rightly questions just how much difference they would have made in the world of superior hostile subcap numbers and gate-capable caps and supers. It's a handy legend to create and the tiny readership of this thread don't matter to the mass of allies who will revel in it and be motivated by it, but it's still fictional. kiresays posted:If a group wants to catch a bunch of supers by surprise preemptively logging in 300 of their own is quite literally the worst way to do it. Yeah that's the preferably, taut and succinct version.
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Mar 30, 2016 23:51
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grr goons Martini spin all lies
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Hollow Talk posted:Logging in enough so that the other side can think "we can take that", however, just before somebody flips... The fleets we had logged-in, both super and sub-cap, were a long way from that zone. I mean, the imperium were never going to jump in supers when outnumbered almost 3:1 in subcaps alone.
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Mar 30, 2016 23:54
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Everyone please stop the stupid space drama. At its core, what really makes EVE is that it is a deeply social experience. Reliable friends and knowledgeable mentors make the most daunting challenges manageable.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:08
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avatarinwin posted:if there wasn't any drama there wouldn't be any war, now would there? Eve is rewarding in the depth and complexity of its mechanics.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:10
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D3r41l3d posted:Might have to play some Eve since Star Citizen doesn't look like it will be released anytime in the near future. A controversial analysis.
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Mar 31, 2016 09:41
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Unfunny Poster posted:When he was playing he was known as Raivi and was, at the time, a big part of PL's AT team. If I recall, he also was one of the active programmers on The Sphere program we still use pretty regularly when in war mode. That said, I can't confirm nor deny the rumor he made the entire new sov system to benefit PL since we're at war and all. Maybe when it's over, but you seem to be drawing your own conclusions at the moment. I was so sure that the first message I got from The Sphere was someone hazing the new guy that I tried to hold a lengthy conversation with what I assumed had to be a jape-happy human.
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Mar 31, 2016 09:56
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Unfunny Poster posted:Have you tried talking to CCP whatshisname (I forget off the top of my head) we have in our IRC? A Horde guy tried to and was a little sad whey they never replied. I do remember his name but fear being booted for strategic leaking for saying it :opsec:
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Mar 31, 2016 10:30
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well, writing it
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Mar 31, 2016 10:30
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Oodles posted:Don't post pictures of your book, that we can't buy until June. Or if you're going to do that, take pictures of every page. I wish it was my book: I only wrote one chapter. I'm pretty pleased though and I'll give my first author's copy to my mum with a nice thank-you for all that work with flash cards and winnie the pooh and stuff.
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Mar 31, 2016 11:23
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Comstar posted:First DOWNFALL video I've seen since the big battle. Most of the other propoganda videos I've seen just had characters heads badly pasted over movie characters, though the Goodbye C02 song was ok. This one is head-and-shoulders above the rest of the stuff I've seen so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhZMBo-QpYA
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Mar 31, 2016 15:04
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Blawrf posted:My GIRLFRIEND moves to France for a year You gotta capitalise the "my" as well for correct usage. It's not that she's *a* girlfriend, it's that she's *your* girlfriend that matters.
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Apr 1, 2016 15:51
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Hubbl3 posted:Since your goal is the destruction of the Imperium you still have a lot of work to do. But I know how this is going to play out: You will lose interest in about 2 weeks and go to somewhere else while declaring victory. The usual stuff. Would you say we're not winning fast enough?
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Apr 1, 2016 21:36
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Fix Lag posted:endie it turns out you have some great friends in co2 I know right: ctrl-f "Endie" (you would, too) "2 mentions wtf blawrf gets 73?!?" But I got on the first page because in some alliance update in four years ago I am the great traitor and I said they were loyal allies THE PROSECUTION RESTS. That whole 100 page heap of logleaks struck me as deeply idgi.
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Apr 1, 2016 21:48
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Fix Lag posted:Imperium just won the UQ timer Technically you won the ihub timer. We're going to win the station timer. Ther's zero tidi and the only bubbles were on the fcon fleet in the tower. To expand on this, we left way too late for UQ9, there was heavy tidi in the ten systems before UQ9, and by the time we jumped into system the ihub timer was at 80%. Welp. We had about 2:1 odds, which helped win the jump-in battle, and CFC bombers were pretty awful while our ones put a mach fleet into structure, which helped. The hurricane fleet wisely exited sharply. A few machs died, the rest either warped off or were caught in bubbles (about a dozen) but the ihub timer was over by then. I always lose track of time in big fights so that may have been instant or taken an hour I have no idea. Now we're on what some people are saying is FCON's staging station (I thought they'd be staged in lowsec now I dunno) winning that timer so this should be freeported by tonight. Something for both sides but it's definitely better than what chicken littles like me were saying (in the previous SA thread) about a week of getting all our progress reset following the SotG. That wasn't concern trolling: I've been in enough post-SotG fleets to just knee-jerk expect camped stations and helicopter-dicking.
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Apr 1, 2016 22:04
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Hubbl3 posted:Don't believe it, it's all made up by Sion. I am not known as a huge fan of sion's but I don't think that even he made up literally 100 pages of hurf and dry-as-old-bones logs in two days. Dirty Sanchez posted:That depends. Is your objective to take Vale, Tribute, and Venal while simultaneously providing us with content AND ridding us of members who eventually would've flipped on us when it might have actually hurt? Don't respond to a "not winning fast enough" by making a "shedding the fat" post.
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Apr 1, 2016 22:05
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:endie you're heading down a smug/retarded reddit poster path turn back and return to "not being a smug reddit poster" before its too late If posting about what is happening in a fleet I'm in and saying "both sides got stuff and we made a mistake" I am "smug posting" to you then your tolerance levels may be slightly out of whack.
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Apr 1, 2016 22:08
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Siets posted:It amazes me that the people who complain about TMC revenue checks have no qualms with the Rixx Javix "fix my personal finances because I am a fuckwit" Kickstarter. Do you have a quote from me on that? I think anyone who contributed to that were gullible idiots.
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Apr 1, 2016 22:42
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Ynglaur posted:No, but I'd also avoid counting chickens just yet. Fleets are being welped and the whole conflict is yet to be decided. The only reason I've stopped saying that I believe that Goons won't be chucked out of Deklein (and that Vily's interview and his hubris-fuelled war goals were retarded) is that everyone deliberately understates their war goals so it comes across as retarded. But I said that since things kicked off and I still think it's the most likely outcome.
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Syndic Thrass posted:http://worshiphousemedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/main/collections/mar-hehasrisencollection.jpg Please list everyone who fell for it and tried to recruit you.
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Apr 2, 2016 19:19
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Hubbl3 posted:What are Vily's war goals? The removal of all imperium allies, the complete clearing of the north and the destruction of goons, just the usual under-promise and over-deliver stuff. A literally unachievable trifecta of propaganda own-goals.
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Apr 2, 2016 20:27
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Doctor Nick posted:the current conspiracy theory on r/eve is that the servers were DDOSed by someone from imperium because they're winning a bunch of timers because of this. I, too, get involved in rl criminal conspiracies in order to save a dozen systems for two days.
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Apr 3, 2016 12:29
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Goatman Sacks posted:I mean NC. still hates us from when we blew up Tri mk3's Avatar in 319, like 6 years ago I mentioned that to an ncdot guy about three weeks ago and he was all "KIA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH US CLOSING THE ALLIANCE THAT TITAN WASN'T THEM". Still genuinely gets ex-tri guys worked up beautifully.
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Apr 3, 2016 20:23
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crew posted:Hey Endie have you had opportunity to converse with Sir Molle or Lady Scarlet yet? No. Frankly I'd be a bit embarrassed to in both cases. Way back then I was a bit rude about people and for a few years I've grown up enough to kinda regret that.
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Apr 3, 2016 20:36
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Comstar posted:What's the "black swan event"? Clearly he has in mind a Miracle of the House of Brandenburg. He's not the first embattled supreme leader to hope for that from his refuge in a bunker.
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Xolve posted:What the Imperium needs is a newbie drive and an OP worthy of one. I don't think it is hugely Samahiel's fault, for all that the OP opens with 'Variously described as “Spreadsheets in space”, “A worst-in-class PvE experience”...' Other big groups have excited their members and sold what's happening really vigorously. That's a lot harder due to the mixed feelings a lot of people in Waffe in particular have about what they are even fighting for: fighting to stay allied to Fcon and struggling for the right not to be allowed to shoot SMA are not easy banners to rally people to. The Fireside chat last night was excruciating: it struck me as it went round and round again and again that it was perhaps an intentional attempt to filibuster his own bloc until the last of the slew of uncontested timers were discreetly out of the way. Given that there were close to a couple of hundred PL listening to it I have to wonder how many imperium were even tuned-in. The SotG - traditionally the precursor to a week of dominance for the CFC - was like a mishmash of all the stuff we saw from hostiles down through the years: not wanting regions, interceptor wulfpax and daft conspiracy theories. The results can be seen in the four aggressive recruiters: Dreddit:  Goonwaffe:  Pandemic Horde:  Karmafleet: 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Haha those $1000 pledges. I can't imagine that private party in the luxury suite being anything except unfathomably awkward. Like lowtaxporn.avi level awkward. My favourite was the online pizza party.
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Apr 4, 2016 10:14
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Tokyo Sexwhale posted:These sound like perfectly goony pledge rewards in retrospect. Should have been an online, wedding-themed, KFC party in that case.
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Denis posted:btw what's your call on CO2 ? I was amazed Gigx put up with as much as he did and for as long as he did: he's literally proud to a fault. The trap thing is fiction and everyone except a few gullible karmafleet true believers knows this, but the manner of the exit was a dumb and flamboyant gesture. They should just have extracted quietly a day or two later: that would have been more harmful to the CFC than the grandiose declaration of reset due to the example it would have set. Either the imperium would have let them go peacefully, showing others it was possible, or they would have acted spitefully, showing how they view their allies. That being said, the "we reset in four hours" thing was a reminder of how Eve was before everyone became careful and discreet diplomats. Oh, for more of that. Tokyo Sexwhale posted:Which goon was it that got their intestines roto-rooted because they ate pretty much nothing but KFC, or ate a bad batch of KFC or something fried chicken related? Was it Vily? I think that you're thinking of DurrHurrDurr. He ate two KFC double-downs, which are not something we have in the name but the name says a lot to us in the context of US cuisine. e;fb Endie fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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Zephyrine posted:30 minutes. That just backs up my point: it was dumb and knee-jerk when the smart move either for their members or for hurting the CFC was to do it by the books over a day or two. darth cookie posted:I've got no opinion on Sion's treatment of CO2. I will say that based on my own experience with their leadership in the last couple of months leading up to them leaving, that I'm confident they were actively loving us. Oh, there's no great secret that after a couple of particularly assertive moves by the CFC late last year Gigx told his alliance to be ready for a reset at any point. They could see that their way of playing was increasingly at odds with the direction of the "Imperium". But my own opinion would be that the actual reset, when it finally came, was at best a knee-jerk reaction to being told their plan to defend Tribute was dumb (which it probably was under the circumstances), and at worst an opportunistic chance to get revenge for earlier, perceived humiliations. Probably both of these and half a dozen other motivations, too.
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Apr 4, 2016 11:38
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frozenpussy posted:You mean it would have been more amicable for them to secede at a time when coalition supers weren't supposed to move through their space? "Ha, now that we have seceded the CFC supercaps will never suspect that we are going to kill them!" That's even dumber than the official line.
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Apr 4, 2016 11:55
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Blazing Zero posted:thats the official diagnosis from dr goonwafflefleetswarm The Party has diagnosed me as suffering from sluggish schozophrenia and philosophical intoxication leading to irrational divergence from right-thinking.
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Apr 4, 2016 12:25
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Oodles posted:Also known as Yes voter syndrome. You'll be first up against Hadrian's Wall, come the revolution, forums poster "Oodles".
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Beach Bum posted:From my understanding of the chain of events, the supers were moved on a spur-of-the-moment route by the ~Goon Hero kcolor~ while (allegedly) PL/NC/MBC supers were logged on ready to jump to ~a point~ on the CO2-planned extraction route who (allegedly) had logoff-trap dictors in position. It was only after the coalition supers were safe that CO2 announced their imminent reset. While I was commenting on the cart-before-horse reversal of the timeline in frozenpussy's post, I would say that I've been told by several people who would have known that the dictor traps are fictional. I think most people view the whole supercap trap aspect of the conspiracy theory as pretty weak. The fact that we had our entire supercap fleet logged-on was a show of force thing: it would be an awful way to execute a trap. That all being said, I accept that anyone who is by now on either side of the was there/wasn't there a trap debate are pretty set on that position by now, and someone on the other side from you saying "I spoke to various of your enemies and they all swear on their mums there was no trap or nuffink" is not, by now, going to sway anyone.
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dialhforhero posted:Twee diddle dee, Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow; Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. One simple truth there is, that cannot be refuted Right-thinking people want to see Tom executed.
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If there is one thing I have no time for it is men who just want to watch the world burn.
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Morris posted:Weren't there like 5 snoobies who lost carriers last night because they had to keep making ~dank tickz~ even though there was a roaming gang and a fresh Thera WH 6ish jumps from JU-? Nah the five guys were waffe and hole squad. The karmafleet carriers were a different incident and I think there were only three of them.
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