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Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Immortan posted:

Forums poster 'Concerned Citizen' is actually a fervent :shillary: supporter.

Oh hey how you feeling? We missed you!

58-42 feels pretty good, right?

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Nameless_Steve
Oct 18, 2010

"There are fair questions about shooting non-lethally at retreating civilian combatants."

Concerned Citizen posted:

you get nothing

Now I know how the bernouts feel.

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Concerned Citizen posted:

immortan are you ready to acknowledge the reality of our second president clinton

I can't guarantee her lovely record will carry her in the general, no.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Immortan posted:

I can't guarantee her lovely record will carry her in the general, no.

at least you've given up on sanders, which is progress

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Concerned Citizen posted:

at least you've given up on sanders, which is progress

Actually it isn't, because Bernie was guaranteed to beat Trump.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I'm watching some TYT clips and Cenk dreams up this insane scenario where Bernie runs as a third party candidate against Hillary, Trump, Cruz, and JESSE VENTURA! He admits it's a crazy scenario but "very possible."

I kind of want the drugs these guys are taking.

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine
People actually think Hillary will be able to distract the public from her lovely record in the general with scripted rhetoric like this:

https://twitter.com/HFA/status/722613018648047616

:ughh:

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

The best part about Hillary beating the poo poo out of Trump in the general is going to be you breaking down crying.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Immortan posted:

People actually think Hillary will be able to distract the public from her lovely record in the general with scripted rhetoric like this:

https://twitter.com/HFA/status/722613018648047616

:ughh:

Trump inspires people in a monkey paw sort of way

an unusually small monkey paw

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Kalman posted:

The best part about Hillary beating the poo poo out of Trump in the general is going to be you breaking down crying.

The best part about Hillary supporters is how they arrogantly think this is guaranteed to happen.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Immortan posted:

hmmmm yes which is why he's still winning landslides in primaries and is slated to win all five states next week

look at immortan boldly going into the gop thread, where he thinks no one notices, and predicting bernie wins delaware and maryland :sad:

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Concerned Citizen posted:

look at immortan boldly going into the gop thread, where he thinks no one notices, and predicting bernie wins delaware and maryland lol

That post was about Trump you loving idiot.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Immortan posted:

That post was about Trump you loving idiot.

nice try friend, i will leave it to the thread viewers to click your name and see the clear context in the thread

Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 07:38 on Apr 20, 2016

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer

Immortan posted:

The best part about Hillary supporters is how they arrogantly think this is guaranteed to happen.

lol, still :sad:

Distant Chicken
Aug 15, 2007

Epic High Five posted:

an unusually small monkey paw

nice

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Concerned Citizen posted:

nice try friend

Sure, I mean you linked it.

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Mrit posted:

lol, still :sad:

I'll toxx that Trump will beat :shillary: in the general. She's that terrible of a candidate.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Immortan posted:

Sure, I mean you linked it.

Vile posted:

Sorry to burst your Bernbubble but Sanders is a terrible debater who never was able to make any salient point and actually attack Clinton. That's why he couldn't name a single issue Hillary was influenced by the big banks - when Elizabeth warren herself has named specific examples he could have used


Top Bunk Wanker posted:

I thought it was pretty good when he hit her with the "alright, I'll release the transcripts of my Wall Street speeches *gestures* now it's your turn" at one of the debates, but overall, he's very weak and ineffectual. To me, his campaign was effectively over after Seattle, where the two Black Lives Matter activists got up on stage and bullied him off the mic at his own rally and he just sort of stood there with his head bowed while they called the crowd racists.

Epic High Five posted:

Trump got scared away from his event as protesters claimed the mic and he's lined up to get the nom

It realistically ended after he lost Texas huge. It ended in a more obvious way 3/15 when he got swept out of 5 states in one night

Immortan posted:

hmmmm yes which is why he's still winning landslides in primaries and is slated to win all five states next week

hm yep still seems to be about bernie. don't be embarrassed.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Immortan posted:

I'll toxx that Trump will beat :shillary: in the general. She's that terrible of a candidate.

Hillary is a terrible candidate.

Hillary is consistently beating Bernie.

What does this tell us about Bernie?

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Concerned Citizen posted:

hm yep still seems to be about bernie. don't be embarrassed.

This part:

Epic High Five posted:

Trump got scared away from his event as protesters claimed the mic and he's lined up to get the nom

It realistically ended after he lost Texas huge. It ended in a more obvious way 3/15 when he got swept out of 5 states in one night

Sorry kiddo.

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Z. Autobahn posted:

Hillary is a terrible candidate.

Hillary is consistently beating Bernie.

What does this tell us about Bernie?

Progressives aren't voting for :shillary: in the general. However, progressives and democrats would vote for Sanders in the general.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Immortan posted:

This part:


Sorry kiddo.

The part you responded to was obviously the second, which was obviously about Bernie, as he's the one who lost big on 3/15, so either A) you're delusional and backtracking, or B) you misread that post horribly. It's perfectly ok to admit the second, everyone does it.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Immortan posted:

This part:


Sorry kiddo.

so is your claim that "hmmm yes" was meant to just emphasize how much you agreed and not a sarcastic retort? just want to clarify

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Great White Hope posted:

The part you responded to was obviously the second, which was obviously about Bernie, as he's the one who lost big on 3/15, so either A) you're delusional and backtracking, or B) you misread that post horribly. It's perfectly ok to admit the second, everyone does it.

I wasn't talking about Bernie on 3/15, but I'll take B) if it makes the loud autist in the thread stfu about it.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Immortan posted:

I wasn't talking about Bernie on 3/15, but I'll take B) if it makes the loud autist in the thread stfu about it.

i am very happy to believe that you simply misread the post and thought you were talking about trump in a conversation clearly about bernie sanders, however your doubling down is incredibly embarrassing

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I made two individual thoughts in that post, one was the Bernie one which was a direct response to TBW, and the other was just included because the visual of that guy taking Trump's mic in Chicago is a very pleasurable one for me. It was an allusion tying together both the Sanders conversation and Trump's craven cowardice but was itself independent as far as thoughts go

Immortan was responding to only the Trump one. He did not engage the Sanders obituary writing session at all.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Immortan posted:

Progressives aren't voting for :shillary: in the general. However, progressives and democrats would vote for Sanders in the general.

Against a reasonable conventional Republican candidate, you'd plausibly have a point, but Trump is so toxic he'll lose enough Republican voters to offset Hillary's potential progressive loss.

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Z. Autobahn posted:

Against a reasonable conventional Republican candidate, you'd plausibly have a point, but Trump is so toxic he'll lose enough Republican voters to offset Hillary's potential progressive loss.

Hillary supporters guaranteeing a victory against Trump is like when Ted Cruz was saying last month that Trump's healthcare plan was identical to Bernie's; I mean, we all wish it were true, until we actually looked into it.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Immortan posted:

Hillary supporters guaranteeing a victory against Trump is like when Ted Cruz was saying last month that Trump's healthcare plan was identical to Bernie's; I mean, we all wish it were true, until we actually looked into it.

except for the part where every single poll shows hillary beating trump as well as a basic look at the demographic math of contested states and the fact that he's the only candidate who's actually more unfavorable than her?

i mean, do you seriously have anything to back this up other than 'yeah but she sucks'

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Tell me how Trump can effectively attack Bernie's record like he could with Hillary's.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Immortan posted:

Tell me how Trump can effectively attack Bernie's record like he could with Hillary's.

this is a non-sequitur because both bernie and hillary would absolutely walk all over trump

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Z. Autobahn posted:

except for the part where every single poll shows hillary beating trump as well as a basic look at the demographic math of contested states and the fact that he's the only candidate who's actually more unfavorable than her?

i mean, do you seriously have anything to back this up other than 'yeah but she sucks'

Trump is going to endlessly hit Hillary on Iraq, the Patriot Act, TPP, NAFTA, Obamacare, donors, tax cuts for wealthy, lying, etc. the list goes on and on. He can't hit Bernie on any of this.

zen death robot posted:

God drat you're still doing this after that post of yours what the gently caress aaaaahh

What

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine
E; oops

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Immortan posted:

Tell me how Trump can effectively attack Bernie's record like he could with Hillary's.

Sanders is profoundly vulnerable from the left for the same reasons Trump is from the right - his only competition couldn't really hit him on that. Socialists are as popular in this country as Atheists and Muslims. Trump would make it a referrendum on Capitalism versus Communism and outside of ~15% of the voting population, Capitalism is still the preferred of the two.

Add to that Sanders not being able to beat him over the head with word salad policy positions (as it's an attack he himself is weak to), and Sanders not being able to really count on any bloc outside of young white men and it's not a pretty picture for him

I still think he beats Trump just because Trump is so profoundly unpopular, but 1) not without a shitload of help from the DNC and 2) it ain't a sure fire thing

Epic High Five has issued a correction as of 08:05 on Apr 20, 2016

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



zen death robot posted:

I'll put it even simpler, Trump just keeps calling Sanders a commie and red baits the gently caress outta him because that works

Gonna stop mid-debate and start playing solitaire after Trump accidentally says the trigger phrase in one of his word salad rambles

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine
Just don't say Hillary's 'Presidency' is inevitable given the current amount of animosity towards corporate money in politics across the aisle during this election cycle. The bad part is how she couldn't foresee this even after a few years after Citizens United.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Immortan posted:

Just don't say Hillary's 'Presidency' is inevitable given the current amount of animosity towards corporate money in politics across the aisle during this election cycle. The bad part is how she couldn't foresee this even after a few years after Citizens United.

Or maybe she'd be like, "oh you mean the result of Citizens United v Clinton? Yeah I think I'm familiar with that one hold on and yeah it turns out I'm still fighting against it"

I'm actually more confident that she will stack the court to get it overturned than that Sanders will, and she'll probably astroturf a case to get expedited up to the SCOTUS just to ensure it happens

Epic High Five has issued a correction as of 08:24 on Apr 20, 2016

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Condiv posted:

won't vote for hillary? you should be ashamed of how irresponsible you're being.

He lives in Vermont, so he's got the luxury of abstaining with zero consequences.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



zen death robot posted:

Trump is literally corporate money

Gonna be funny when Trump agrees to ramp up trickle down, flat tax with a low cap and no taxes on anything except sales all kinds of stuff really, because Forbes told them they'd upgrade his standing in richest people in the world if he did

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A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Immortan posted:

Just don't say Hillary's 'Presidency' is inevitable given the current amount of animosity towards corporate money in politics across the aisle during this election cycle. The bad part is how she couldn't foresee this even after a few years after Citizens United.

Hillary's presidency is inevitable.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/

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