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Supreme Allah posted:What's the thought on 'looping', that thing where you cut, bend & fit tubes that let weird liquids flow through the machine. I've been looking at lots of builds and that seems way more interesting than just tossing a bunch of components into a case -- it looks like it takes planning, engineering and practice. Has anyone done this for their build and if so, any good resources for beginners? Or is it generally regarded as the PC equivalent of putting rims on a Civic. Who calls it looping? It's called water cooling. Its expensive, and only worthwhile if you're going to heavily overclock high end parts. Most of the time you're better off spending what you would have spent on watercooling parts on just getting higher end parts to begin with. The easiest way is to use flexible tubing, but those who are really dedicated will do it with hard plastic or glass, and have 90 degree metal fittings and such. You have to do research on where you can mount your radiators, reservoirs and pumps. If you haven't even messed around with closed loop water cooling, then you'll probably be in over your head. As the TDP of processors and graphics cards keep going down, we'll probably see less of a need for watercooling, but conversely a higher overclocking ceiling. I think the EK bnrand are the most popular ones now. For shits and giggles, I priced a waterblock for my GPU, it costs $114 dollars. Then you'd need need a waterblock for your CPU. Then a radiator, pump, reservoir, tubing. Also fluid. Then there's a lot of work that goes into getting your system actually going. VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 4, 2016 |
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TalonDemonKing posted:I'd actually appreciate it if you did go over what's wrong, since that's what I'm sort of lacking knowledge in. That AMD APU has its own onboard graphics that would be more than sufficient for HTPC duty, plus the 630 is garbage anyway. Also, I'd build a smaller, mini-itx system, especially for an HTPC, but that's just me. Also I'd probably go Intel.
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daspope posted:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant It's hard to find really good Z97 itx boards now that the supply has dried up. This is probably the best one you can still find. It has an M2 slot on the back, but it's not 80mm, it's one of the shorter ones. Also it doesn't have as high of a RAM OC speed as some of the more gaming oriented boards. Still a very good board, mine is practically the same but no M2 and its H97. http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16813157504
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Rape Stink posted:Building a new rig for under $1000 to replace my old rear end AMD rig, and this is what I've come up with so far How long can you wait on the graphics card? You could get a 1070, when it comes out, and still meet your budget. The 4790K has onboard graphics that will let you play indie games and older games, but not mainstream stuff. Also, you could use your old graphics card for a bit as well while waiting for the new one. A little patience would net you near top-tier GPU performance, instead of middle of the pack. Well, patience and 170$ more dollars. Also, Most people would probably suggest a 6600K and Z170 board over the older 4790K board, unless you really need hyperthreading. You probably want 16GB of RAM, so saving $30 by bring your old (and slow) RAM over is kind of foolish. VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 19:00 on May 10, 2016 |
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admiraldennis posted:Hey thread! No one can tell you what that component is, but if it's working fine, you probably didn't do any damage.
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Subjunctive posted:Hmm hmm. Thanks! You should watch this. Essentially, you shouldn't custom loop if you're on a budget. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iogqnEJBKRQ As far as anything with more than 4 cores goes, gaming doesn't really need it. Few games will even use all four cores, and even fewer can use more than 4. If you're encoding video, running VMs or something weird like that, maybe get more cores. Since, you are apparently running VMs, I guess you should ask yourself what % of the time will you be running VMs as opposed to gaming. And then ask just how many VMs or whatever you're running at once. VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 08:07 on May 11, 2016 |
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Mutant Standard posted:Anyone have good suggestions for small MITX cases? I liked the Sugo sg13 but it's power and reset buttons have wires that are very poorly sodered on so I'm sick of that case. I have a SFX-L power supply if it matters. I'm waiting for this: https://www.dan-cases.com/ Discussion: https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a4-sfx-the-smallest-gaming-case-in-the-world.1799326/page-114 But, you could buy 5-6 of those SG13B's for the price of that case, when the crowdfunding finally opens. And you're only shaving off 3 liters, while losing support for a closed loop cooler.
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Gunder posted:I'm trying to find out if upgrading my existing gaming system: i5-2500k, 8gigs of ram, Geforce 970 to a modern skylake system would be worthwhile. I only plan on upgrading the CPU, Mobo and RAM, i'll keep the 970 I'm already using. You should overclock the hell out of the 2500k and then see if you still feel like upgrading your CPU is gonna do much for you.
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Adeptus posted:This is great advice, thanks. How feasible is switching to the cheaper motherboard and case, and upgrading to the 6600K for overclocking? Looks to reduce the price to around £875 - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/TJqQ3C. Would it be worth switching to your recommended cheaper RAM as well, or does that cut the overclocking potential? You should really, really, consider overclocking. It's as easy as going in to your BIOS and changing one number from 37 to say, something like 44. It's not scary, at all.
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HMS Boromir posted:Oh, that reminds me actually. The CPU cooler I'm getting recommends, of all things, applying a strip of thermal paste onto each of its heatpipes rather than the usual pea or thin line on the CPU heat spreader. Like so: Because you can create air bubbles.
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Ryuga Death posted:Is the 1070/1080 going to be significantly better than the 970? I don't really understand all the technical jargon enough to fully grasp it. Though I imagine even if it is, a 1070 probably won't be that much of an improvement over a 970 for 1080p gaming, right? Realistically no. I mean most games should be pegged to 60FPS, but if you ever want to get a faster or bigger monitor (you do, you just don't know it yet), you should wait. Also, games will get more demanding over time. The smart play is to either wait and buy a 1070 when it comes out, or wait and buy a cheap 970 when the 1070 comes out.
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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:Has anyone ever been able to get a good gaming PC into an actually slim mini tower case? I just upgraded my processor and got a motherboard with only one slot for a graphics card since I'll never do crossfire/SLI poo poo and figured that opens up a lot of space inside. The dudes at Fry's kept telling me that you can't have a gaming PC with a small case, no exceptions. You can do it, but fitting a cooler will be a pain. If you want to use a 120MM closed loop water cooler, you probably do, I'd recommend the SG13B. It fits up to a 10.5" card (1070/1080 will be fine), and if you use a SFX power supply, it should be pretty easy to fit the CLC in just fine. Here's a video of Linus putting a Titan X, a big ATX PSU, a 120MM CLC, and an 18-core XEON into said case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjDJNwAANwA However, I don't know if this qualifies as a slim mini tower to you. It is only 10.5 liters, which is small, but its perhaps not the dimensions you want. You could go with something like a Raven RVZ02 or Node 202, 12L and 10L respectively but you won't have any spaces for additional fans if you use a full sized graphics, so closed loops are out. You'll be limited to low profile coolers. You may be able to fit one of the 120MM or 140MM low profile coolers in, but you need to check compatibility against your RAM height and motherboard. Usually if you google the cooler and motherboard, some Overclockers/other building forums posts will come up and you might be able to see what others have done. You may also need to switch the fans on said 120/140MM low profile coolers to a slim one as well. It's doable, will take research and you may not get huge overclocks at satisfactory temperatures. You may also have to do some trial and error yourself, so if something is questionable, order it from Amazon or get Newegg Premier. What I'm saying is: Do it. I think its awesome.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Bioshock Infinite is an older game at this point, stuff like TW3 will bring the 970 down to 45-55 FPS on ultra@1080p. Just turn off hairworks man... I'm pretty sure I ran TW3 just fine on my 970 at 2560x1440 with hairworks turned off.
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MrBond posted:If I have this motherboard: That's the right card and a good choice. Sebadoh Gigante posted:I just have a simple question, is it possible to upgrade the graphics card in this Inspiron small desktop or is it integrated graphics only? You have half height PCI-E slots, but you better double check if you have any PCI-E power cables coming from your PSU. If you don't the best card you can get is a GTX950, but make sure you get the one that doesn't require a PCI-E power cable.
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Imagined posted:I went with an mITX board simply because of price, but I'm not opposed to a smaller case if it will fit the monster GTX 1070 inside. I have a huge case on my PC (the new one will be for the wife) and its GTX 970 barely fit with not a millimeter to spare. A Silverstone SG13B will fit your PSU. I would recommend a 120mm closed loop CPU cooler though, since there is not much clearance between the CPU and PSU. You should also probably pick the one with the shortest tubes, too. The case will fit 1x2.5 and 1x3.5 or 3x2.5 drives, hopefully that's enough.
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Animal posted:Thanks, fixed. The Silverstones are great and were more or less the only decent SFX PSUs in the game for a few years, however, the Corsairs just came out and have been getting stellar reviews.
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Rad Gravity posted:Not sure about the PSU, 500W is obviously more than needed but but it's both small and modular, and those qualities don't seem to exist in lower-wattage models? That PSU is fine. Corsair recently released a 450W modular one recently, but it doesn't seem to be widely available in the EU. It's also more expensive than the 500W in the states.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Is there anyone using a SilverStone ML08B for their case? I am a sucker for small form factors, and if I can get a 1070 into there, that would be pretty sweet. It's essentially the same case as the rvz02, but with a different grill. It's a very nice case and should fit a 1070 just fine, just make sure to double check your measurements because I don't know how needlessly big the custom boards will be. We also have a SFF thread here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3776587
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Cthulhuite posted:I was given a Corsair's Carbide Air 240 case that I'd like to use for my next build, which will probably be an i5-6600K, Geforce 1070 system, overclocked. There looks like a lot of room for cooling, filtered intakes and 120mm fans front, top and rear, but it's also apparently built to house the Corsair liquid cooling rigs with the enclosed pump and radiator setup. Yes, they're fine. Most people have no issues with it, but especially sensitive people will complain about the pump noise to no end. I've been using them since the first Corsair H50, and never had any real issues, although I think I had to swap one at the store once, due to a noisy, defective pump. Generally, they are better than even big air coolers for OCing, as long as you don't do something silly with your layout.
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triple sulk posted:I've been considering either downsizing my rig to a Mini-ITX or just upsizing to a standard ATX since my N200 feels a bit antiquated in design. I really like the NCASE M1 and the A4-SFX on Kickstarter, but the former is absurdly expensive after shipping to the point that it's hard to justify it, and the latter wouldn't ship until December at the earliest. The cases I do like that are available right now are mostly in the Fractal line - the R5, the Define S (which seems to lack the bays which I don't need), and the Core 500/Node 304 look nice too. Check some of the case recommendations in this thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3776587 The Nano S is like 3 times bigger than it needs to be.
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Fauxtool posted:I have an extra i5 655k laying about and i wanted to help a friend out. Do you know what socket he's currently on? If it is the same, you should just be able to swap it in, although you may not be able to overclock. If not, is it worth going through all this hoopla just to change from one i5 to another similarly dated i5? It's probably not worth buying a new motherboard, honestly.
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Fauxtool posted:I have a better idea of what I want to do now from my earlier posts. The 655k is an upgrade over the X4 630 for sure, but you should find out of his RAM is DDR2 or DDR3, before you do this. Also, you may want to double check this, but I don't think an H55 board can overclock. If he has to end up buying new RAM, you have to consider that cost as well. At a certain point, it may be worthwhile for him to just get a i3-6100 and the cheapest H170/B150 board he can find, and new RAM, as the i3-6100 is also a dual core, but has better single thread performance and uses less power. It also comes with a HSF, and you get all kinds of new technologies like USB3. The GT740 is a GT, not a GTX. It's a grade or two too low to make the cut. VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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PerrineClostermann posted:I desperately want to build a custom CPU+GPU loop in some tiny mITX case. Plenty of people have done it in an rvz01 and Ncase M1.
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Love Crime posted:Anyone happen to know of a good ITX or MATX that is less than 8 inches tall? Preferably in black? I can't seem to find one anywhere, newegg, amazon, etc. I really need something I can fit into my entertainment console Silverstone SG13B or RVZ02
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Has anyone ever used internal wifi antennas in a desktop? I'm getting a motherboard that has a short m.2 slot for a wifi card, and I already have an extra one to slip into that slot. The question is if I should just drill two holes in the back plate and use screw on antennas or try using an internal antenna? My case is a RVZ02, so it is a metal case. What generally yields a better wifi signal? I'd rather just do it once, when I swap the motherboard in, because drilling holes into a metal plate once the motherboard is installed is a bad idea.
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fleshweasel posted:Has anyone found that pcpartpicker isn't showing mini ITX power supplies? This seems a bit odd. I'm also not certain whether I'm limiting performance by picking a mini ITX motherboard over a micro ATX or something. I won't be gaming, so I expect my power needs to be low. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3776587&perpage=40&pagenumber=13
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:Alright, Battlefield 1 has made it abundantly clear that I'm going to have to invest in a hardware upgrade in order to not get left behind. I have an Nvidia GPX780 and an i7 4770k processor, and I can probably only afford to replace one. What's my best bet? I'm thinking graphics card., but I don't want to buy a more powerful GPU only to have it get bottlenecked. Definitely the graphics card. Your CPU shouldn't be a problem.
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MisterAlex posted:My roommate Jason wants to make a desktop machine that's compact enough to easily take to friends' places. The Nano is a terrible case if he wants to move his computer around a lot, as it's over 30 liters. You could try the SG13-B which will fit all your parts and is 10.5 liters, so one third the size. Or you could swap the case and PSU for the Node 202 which is also 10.5 liters but requires a SFX PSU, they have version that comes with said PSU.
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Grundulum posted:Wow, now that I'm actually checking, there don't seem to be many GTX 1070s that will fit into the RVZ02B. The maximum card width is 4.78", and it looks like basically nothing on PC Part Picker is narrower than that. It looks like just the Gigabyte G1 Gaming (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/YpH48d/). This leaves me with two questions. First, are there other options? Second, if not, how does the Gigabyte compare to other brands I would normally lean towards, like MSI or ASUS? I had that card, it fits.
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signalnoise posted:The case I'm planning to use if I go mITX is actually half the price of the mATX in the same line actually, and it uses a standard ATX PSU instead of STX. So that's not really my concern. I'm just wondering if in a year I'll be upset that my desktop doesn't have Thunderbolt 3 functionality or some poo poo Thunderbolt 3/USB-C is a clusterfuck, so probably not... You won't need the high bandwidth for an external video card, or for up to 100W of power... http://techreport.com/news/30942/2016-macbook-pro-snafu-highlights-the-mess-with-usb-type-c
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Hey guys, question here. I'm looking for a GPU to buy in the near future. my pc is this one http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-desktop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/5196104.p?skuId=5196104 1050T, 1050 or RX460 are going to be pretty much your choices from the current generation. 1050Ti is the most correct choice.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Ah. I don't know a ton about it, but what about my power supply issue? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137054 would that be good? It says 75w power consumption in the specs but I'm not sure if just the pci-e slot can provide that or not. Yea, get the Asus. You don't have a 8 or 6 pin PCI-E power plug from your PSU, so you need one that only runs off of the PCI-E slot.
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M_Gargantua posted:So i've started making my plans for my end of the month purchase, sort of a christmas present to myself but I'm also hoping I get some deals the black friday weekend. You should go with a z170 board and faster RAM, it can make a big difference in certain games like Witcher 3, GTA5, etc. the z170 will also allow you to overclock, which you should definitely consider now, or later, especially if you're going to watercool it. The choice between a 1070/1080 is largely a product of your monitor resolution and HZ. Also don't worry about the 250D's size. It's huge for an ITX case, there are literally options that can fit the same hardware you're listing and are half the size, single AIO cooler included. If you go to Microcenter between now and Black Friday, you can get a 6700k and an Asrock Z170-ITX gaming for $414 before a $30 rebate, so you'll actually save money getting a faster motherboard. VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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The Slack Lagoon posted:Okay, tested the graphics card in the first PCIe slot, and it fits... Barely. Is the backplate of the card too close to the CPU cooler or will that be fine? Nothing is *quite* touching, but its very close, maybe 1-2 mm Neither the backplate nor the heatsink carry a current of any sort, it's fine. They could be touching and it wouldn't really matter as long as the mounting points weren't being overly stressed.
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Boxman posted:I didn't even think about case cooling. The case I have has two 120mm exhaust fans (besides the fans attached to the PSU and CPU cooler, of course.) There are places for intakes but maybe just the exhaust will create enough airflow? In general it's good to try to create positive pressure. That means more intakes than exhausts. This way you'll always have fresh air and in theory you'll have less dust in the case.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Is there a way to find out or site to look up what timings a DDR4-2666 or -3000 module would have when run at 2133MHz? I'm looking to upgrade to 32GB, and I figured I get a kit that officially supports faster frequencies, for whenever I'll upgrade to whatever comes after Skylake-E. My current 2133MHz RAM does 13-15-15-28 and I'd like to keep those timings. The product page should list their timings.
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Splal posted:[*]What country are you in? USA Do you have a Microcenter near you? http://www.microcenter.com/product/462952/H110M-ITX-ac_LGA_1151_mini-ITX_Intel_Motherboard http://www.microcenter.com/product/454898/Core_i3-6100_SkyLake_37GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor This combo would come out cheaper and includes wifi, so you could certainly save a few bucks there. It would be $140+tax rather than over $200. It is a mini-ITX mobo, but it doesn't seem like you need another PCIE slot so long as you have built in wifi. You might be able to bump up to a 1060 with what you save.
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Inverse square posted:I need a new motherboard with a FCLGA1151 socket. This is my case and I do not overclock. Rather depressed to be doing this, I got my current mobo (1155 socket) in 2013 and a friend told me it wouldn't need to be replaced for a long time (so I installed my new GPU and got my new i5-6600 without checking my socket). Out of morbid interest, was he an idiot to have told me that? Your friend is an idiot and you will need new DDR4 RAM.
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Dali Parton posted:Hello beautiful goons. I want to leave my gigantic full size tower and embrace Mini ITX/small form factor gaming! Im going off the OP template: Do you live near a Microcenter? Right now its impossible to ignore their 6600k for $180 with an additional $30 off a compatible motherboard. I recommend the Asrock Z170 Gaming ITX. You won't be able to reuse your RAM, but with prices this good, you won't save any money by going last gen.
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Looks like the 6700k will be coming with R6:Siege and Vermintide. Hopefully Microcenter has this voucher too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800985068
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