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Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
Inspired by all of this Doctor Strange talk, I've created a thread in CD to continue discussion: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3795016

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Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

ImpAtom posted:

Yeah but... CD.

Yeah, I know - but its the best we have :( I'll encourage constructive discussion, I promise!

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

MacheteZombie posted:

Just post about the movie here if y'all hate CineD so much. lol

lol I just didn't want to bog the thread down with discussion about a single movie, since this is the general BSS movie thread. I did my best at a high-effort post in Cinema Discussion to help direct discussion there

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

MacheteZombie posted:

Your post is good, and I thank you for the thread.

Thank you :)

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
Those who have seen Doctor Strange should join us in the thread in CD: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3795016

So far it hasn't gone to complete poo poo like most threads there

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Dan Didio posted:

Age of Ultron is crushingly, fundamentally boring at every turn, on top of being poorly made. Amazing Spider Man is bad, but it at least has some interesting visuals and auditory choices.

I'd rather not watch either of them at this point, but if you put a gun to my head, I know which one I'd pick.

Counterpoint - Amazing Spider-Man 2 was riddled with plot holes and felt like they patched together two completely different movies. Other choices they made in the movie are astoundingly dumb - Electro got his superpowers from electric eels that live in water but his weakness is water? Also, how was Richard Parker able to build a hidden subway car inside an abandoned subway tunnel without anyone noticing? Not to mention Richard must've had magic Wi-Fi, as there was no conceivable way he would've been able to upload information while on a plane in 2000.

The only good thing about that movie was Andrew Garfield's costume, and mayyybe Paul Giamatti hamming it up as the Rhino.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Eh! Frank posted:

Haven't seen Doctor Strange yet, but I need somebody who has to confirm something I saw on IMDB for me: does the movie really use Pink Floyd's "Interstellar Overdrive"?

Yes it does, and it's glorious.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Open Marriage Night posted:

gently caress yeah! Possibly some of the best 3D since Avatar. Guardians of the Galaxy had some great 3D, but the effects in Doctor Strange lend itself to the gimmick so well. My only regret was that I wasn't high as a kite.

The IMAX 3D was incredible, I'd highly recommend it to anyone on the fence

I had an edible or two before the movie started, so when it got to the part where the Ancient One sent Steven Strange on an acid trip through all of the those different dimensions I was like :captainpop:

It was trippy as hell at points, like when hands were growing out of his fingers and the whole backwards Hong Kong sequence

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Official Action Figure of the Vulture in Spider-Man: Homecoming leaked.



I...actually really like this. The bomber jacket and mechanical wings is a cool look. I can't really see details of the helmet, but I'm not totally against the idea.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
I guess I'm in the mintority - I thought Guardians Vol. 2 was better than the original, after seeing it twice so far. This movie had a better villain (one of the best in the MCU so far), a better soundtrack (for my tastes), it was beautifully shot and it had lot of heart underneath all that humor.

In addition, the film's overall message resonated with me since I'm a new(er) father - everything with Yondu at the end wrecked me. Great film imo

Little Mac posted:

Logan and GotG 2 really hitting me hard with the dead Dad stuff this year :(

My condolences :( I can kind of relate - the intro scene in the first GotG was tough for me to watch, as I had just lost my mother earlier that year (brain aneurism). Hang in there, friend!

Jonny_Rocket fucked around with this message at 21:13 on May 7, 2017

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
Here would be my top 3 Marvel scenes, so far:

1. The airport battle in Civil War, which gave me a huge nerd boner - especially Ant-Man on Hawkeye's arrow (straight out of the comics) and the Empire Strikes Back-esque scene with Spider-Man and Giant-Man.

2. Steven Strange's first trip through the multiverse, which was one of the trippiest scenes I've ever seen on film. It was wonderful in every way

3. The "We are Groot" scene in the first Guardians of the Galaxy.

I feel like the new Thor movie is going to have some pretty badass moments though - the trailer is metal as gently caress. If it weren't for the new Guardians movie that came out, that would be the one MCU movie that I was most hyped for this year.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
Just got back from seeing the new Spider-Man and it's probably my favorite Spider-Man movie to date! Tom Holland really emboies both the Peter Parker and Spider-Man personas perfectly. It's taken six movies and three reboots, but they've finally got the right guy and right tone. The high school scenes were reminiscent of a John Hughes movie, in a good way. It was very much a superhero coming-of-age film, but they wisely avoided anything to do with Uncle Ben (as it's been done way too much, like the Wayne murders)

The Vulture was a very compelling villain, as he was just a normal hard-working father whose business went under because the government dicked him over. His overall design was pretty badass, and I enjoyed everything with his crew, the Tinkerer and Shocker. They made the goddamn Vulture, of all villains, be legitimately menacing and cool - that's commendable! It was refreshing to see the villain actually figure out the identity of the hero without being woefully dense . I'm glad they kept him and Mac Gargan alive, as I'd like to see both again. Perhaps they're leading up to the Sinister Six?

As a long-time comics fan, I was psyched to see Damage Control, even if they're just a government agency co-owned by Stark. Also, the callbacks to classic comic panels like the half mask, half face in the reflection of the water and when he struggled lifting the debris off him, but then succeeds in a fit of strength.

I don't get the hate with Ned or any of the supporting cast. Ned in particular was wonderful, as he acted like anyone would who found out their best bud is the famous Spider-Alan all over the web. He was goofy, innocent and had a lot of great little moments ("Do you spit venom?" "I was watching...porn")

Overall a wonderful movie, and easily in my top 5 Marvel films - and the best Spider-Man yet.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
I watched the trailer and from the looks of it, Justice League and the first Avengers movie basically revolve around the same premise - "An unlikely team of superheroes band together to fight alien invaders." I won't be surprised if the climax of Justice League has them trying to close a portal before the world ends, complete with a blue beam of light in the sky.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Half of the DCCU movies released so far are good

Fixed that for you. I'll give you Wonder Woman and Man of Steel, but that's about as far as I'll go. Suicide Squad is a garbage fire, and Batman v Superman: Martha was good up until they introduced Doomsday.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
Good lord, have you guys seen the new posters for Justice League? Whomever is designing the posters for this film is seriously dropping the ball:





Holy Photoshop Batman! The second in particular is just awful.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

i like tacos posted:

Looks like the Thor: Ragnarok reviews are out


That'll change over time, I'm sure, but it shows Marvel's confidence in the film if they're allowing reviews to be released two weeks before it releases. From the gist of the reviews I've read so far, it seems like if you're into superhero films that don't take itself super seriously, you'll enjoy this one. I'm happy that it seems like Marvel let Taika Waititi do his own thing though.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

teagone posted:


DCEU Oscars: 1
MCU Oscars: 0

:smuggo:

For Best Makeup. Whoop dee doo.

It's not indicative of the film's overall quality, that's for sure. It's garbage.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

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MacheteZombie posted:

tbf they did nail the makeup. croc was killer

That's true, which is about all I can say about the movie that was well done

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

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teagone posted:

That's the joke my dude. I'm a fan of DCEU movies, and I even think Suicide Squad is loving trash. [edit] I'd watch Suicide Squad over Thor 2 though.

My apologies. And yeah, you're right - I'd probably watch Suicide Squad over Thor 2 as well. At least Suicide Squad is a memorable trainwreck of a film, while Thor 2 just exists and has one of the worst villains in any superhero movie

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Arist posted:

I disagree about the villain in Thor 2.. The bad thing about the villain in that movie is that it's a waste of Christopher Eccleston and he's completely unmemorable and not compelling at all, but the villain in Suicide Squad manages to drag down an already pretty terrible movie, which is a feat unto itself.

That's the biggest issue I had with Malekith - it was a complete waste of Christopher Eccleston, and he was completely unmemorable and not compelling, as you said. I don't remember a single thing about the villain in that movie.

Suicide Squad at least had a memorable villain in how comically awful the Enchantress and her goons were. Pure schlock. I'm not saying one was better than the other - both were awful - but I end up remembering more about the Enchantress because of how bad the adaptation was.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

teagone posted:

Enchantress is way more memorable than Eccleston's Dark Elf thing because her acting is hilariously bad to a point where it's entertainingly bad. Dark Elf dude is just... there. Nothing compelling or funny, just plain old bad and boring. Enchantress at least had one cool and memorable scene too, the office one where we first see her turn with that hand switch thing. I honestly can't remember a single thing that Eccleston did in Thor 2 as the villain. [edit] Oh wait, he killed Thor's mom.

Exactly! My friend teagone gets it :hf:

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Arist posted:

I guess I don't think "memorable" is automatically a good thing. Like, I still don't like Wonder Woman's theme in the context of BvS (though I think it works a lot better in her own film).

I agree with you there - it's not an automatically good thing. But "memorable" is better than "completely forgettable/boring". In this case, Suicide Squad's villain is more memorable because it's comic book schlock akin to Arnold Schwarzenegger's performance as Mr. Freeze in Batman & Robin.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
Thor: Ragnarok is easily the best Thor film, and one of the most fun Marvel films to date. It Ragna-rocked my world, and its easily the best out of the three Marvel films released this year.

It's a perfect blend of action, comedy, although a little light on drama (not saying there aren't any emotionally impactful scenes - there are). The movie reminds me of Heavy Metal meets Mad Max, and it's :rock:

My only complaint (spoiler-free) was that the movie moves at such a brisk pace that sometimes certain moments that are supposed to be a big deal/dramatic get lost in translation/glossed over. But man, this was a gorgeous movie.

Breakout characters for me are Valkyrie (the drunk Han Solo of the MCU) and Korg.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

hiddenriverninja posted:

I'm not sure how I feel about studios changing gfx in the trailer to preserve plot spoilers. I get why, though.

I liked that touch, personally. It kept it as a surprise - trailers typically give away too much of a movie nowadays, so it was a refreshing change of pace.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Arist posted:

So I'm hearing the movie looks incredible. Is IMAX worth it? Seeing it tonight.

Yes, for sure. It's a gorgeous movie

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
One of my favorite exchanges in the MCU is from Civil War -

Spider-Man: Hey guys, you ever see that really old movie, Empire Strikes Back?
War Machine: Jesus, Tony, how old is this guy?
Iron Man: I don't know, I didn't carbon date him. He's on the young side.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Rhyno posted:

That didn't seem genuine for a nerd like Peter at all.

Why, if I may ask? The Peter in the MCU is young and naive

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

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Rhyno posted:

I guess in the MCU they don't have DVDs.

He and Ned were putting a Lego Death Star together, Peter knows what Star Wars is.

Of course he knows what Star Wars is, but it doesn't take away the fact that the Empire Strikes Back is an older movie - the movie came out almost 40 years ago.

But, whatever - you didn't like the line in the movie. It's fine.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

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Rhyno posted:

Everyone knows what the Empire Strikes Back is. It was a poorly conceived attempt at a HA HA OLD GUYS line and it falls flat.

Is a movie that came out almost 40 years ago not an old movie?

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

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Rhyno posted:

Steve jumping on the grenade is probably the most badass, heroic moment in all of the MCU.

This I'll agree with 100%. It told us everything we needed to know about Steve in a single scene - it was awesome.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Nodosaur posted:

anyway it's not my favorite moment but

"That shield doesn't belong to you. You don't deserve it! My father made that shield!"

No line in the MCU hits me as hard as that.

That was a powerful line, but I think Peter Quill's line in GotG2 after Yondu bites it also hits pretty hard: "What I'm trying to say here is... sometimes that *thing* you're searching for your whole life... is right there by your side all along. And you don't even know it."

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Although it's sad - as Chris Evans is a great Captain America - I'd love to see Bucky or Sam step into the Captain America role. Bucky seems the most likely, as his story arc seems to be leading to that as the next step.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

site posted:

Why couldn't it have been rdj instead

Here's hoping for Sam cap

Why not Bucky?

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

site posted:

Well on one side is the black va social worker who got back in the game to help cap take down Hydra and became an avenger and is liked and respected by his peers

on the other is the white multiple murderer who hasn't actually done anything to earn the shield and is disliked by everyone and only is tolerated at all because he's an old friend of Steve's

This isn't a tough choice for me

That's true, all completely valid points. However, let's not forget that Bucky didn't kill people under his own will - he was brainwashed and used as a tool by Hydra. I feel like the next step for the character is a path to redemption - atoning for his mistakes and becoming a hero. What better way for his character arc to come full circle than if Bucky becomes Captain America in honor of his fallen best friend?

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

Zachack posted:

This was done in the Brubaker run but it took a lot of time/effort and ends with Cap being Cap again, and Bucky already had far more establishing scenes to make the transition more plausible. In the MCU it would come kinda out of nowhere, he isn't much of a character. Falcon hasn't been hugely developed either but it would make sense.

Bucky isn't much of a character? He's been established as a tragic figure who was the childhood friend of Steve Rogers who fought alongside him in World War II. Remember how Bucky saved Steve from being beat up by a bully in the first movie? And then Bucky saves Steve again after he grabs his shield to protect him from the explosion that ripped open the side of the train.

He's been heroic before - why can't he be again? He was ultimately a victim of Zola's experiments and HYDRA's brainwashing.

Jonny_Rocket fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Mar 28, 2018

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

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Aphrodite posted:

That's not what character is.

Instead of a snarky remark, how about explaining why?

site posted:

Okay well my work here is done

Good job avoiding the question.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
Now I remember why I stopped visiting the forums for a while. Instead of having a thoughtful discussion, you all would rather give one sentence, snarky answers or make fun of it. I'm dropping the discussion - it's not worth it.

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

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Phylodox posted:

Sam's character arc has involved him being a veteran who worked with other veterans and got swept up into the crazy world of superheroics. That is, I need to stress, the beginning of his arc. Bucky's already seen heroism, a fall from grace, and (likely in Infinity War) redemption. Having him take on the role of Cap would just be...I dunno, doubling down on the redemption thing? And then what? More redemption? With Sam there's room to grow and develop his character a lot. Who is he as Captain America? Instead of yet another time displaced man-out-of-his-element, we get to explore what a modern Captain America would mean. One who grew up in today's social and political landscape.

Thank you for the thoughtful response - I agree with you 100%, in this respect. I especially love the analysis that I bolded at the end, and now I've switched over from team Bucky to team Sam as the next Captain America

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
We can all agree that Vision is probably toast, right? I'm not sure he can really live without that infinity stone in his head, but I'm not sure. Maybe they'll come up with some magic bullshit way to keep him alive without it

Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

"Inspiration, move me brightly"
Anyone upset about the absence of Hawkguy in the Infinity War promotional campaign (so far) should be happy with this -

Comic Book Movie posted:

During an on-set interview last year, Marvel Studios prop master Russell Bobbitt talked to the press about a number of topics, including the new costumes and gadgets we should expect to see here.

Interestingly, he actually singled out Jeremy Renner's Clint Barton, noting: "Hawkeye is getting a lot of cool new stuff. We're developing a lot of interesting stuff for him. All in the, sort of, bow related but some new gadgets he has in addition to the bow." He went on to assure fans that Hawkeye is "totally there" and "a part of the world!" That's definitely going to come as a relief to fans of the character.

Source: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/aven...ity-war-a158889

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Jonny_Rocket
Mar 13, 2007

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Rhyno posted:

McKenna Grace was in Gifted with Chris Evans last year. She's a very good young actress so maybe she's playing young Carol.

As a reinvigorated AoS fan I am hype for Agent Coulson.


Also Lee Pace whaaaaaaaaaat.

Yesssss, I'm so hyped for Coulson to return to the movies, even if it takes place before most of the MCU. The casting of Lee Pace and Djimon Hounsou means that we're getting Ronan the Accuser and Korath again, right?

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