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Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Heathen posted:

http://deadline.com/2016/05/kevin-feige-marvel-studios-captain-america-civil-war-iron-man-doctor-strange-black-panther-1201750467/


Two things.

First, the earliest they would do a Black Widow solo movie would be Phase Four in 2020.

Second, he mentions nine movies through 2019, ten counting Civil War.

2016:
1) Captain America: Civil War
2) Doctor Strange

2017:
3) Guardians of the Galaxy 2
4) Thor: Ragnarok

2018:
5) Black Panther
6) Avengers: Infinity War Part I
7) Ant-Man and the Wasp

2019:
8) Captain Marvel
9) Avengers: Infinity War Part II
10) The Inhumans

This means they are still doing an Inhumans movie and neither the Agents of SHIELD storyline nor Indiana Jones 5 getting the date have stopped them.

I think Inhumans is off the schedule (thank goodness, I can't see caring about that), but he's definitely counting Spider-Man: Homecoming.

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Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Gaz-L posted:

Also, in reference to a beat some other people mentioned at the end: While "He killed my mom" is the big emotional line in that scene, all 3 characters get something. Steve has "I could do this all day" (followed by Bucky distracting Iron Man, so Buck saves him yet again after that line) and Bucky gets "Do you even remember them?" "I remember them all... :smith:"

"I could do this all day" was especially awesome to me, after he said that to the bully kicking his rear end in the first movie... again, until Bucky jumped in to save him. It was a great callback for anyone who remembered that early scene, and if you didn't, it was still a cool line.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
It just seems like using the Vulture as the next Spider-Man villain will be a waste, since Vulture sucks. And Keaton would play a tremendous Norman Osborn for a Dark Reign event that ties into the MCU, even though moviegoers might be sick of Osborn.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Aphrodite posted:

Norman Osborn has been in one Spider-Man movie.

Willem Dafoe in Spider-Man 1 and Chris Cooper in Amazing 1?

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

FilthyImp posted:

He can be an up-his-own-rear end media mogul that's slightly older than Parker, super sure of himself, abrasive and constantly getting in the way of the Bible's success.

Kind of like a Shane Smith, hipper-than-thou type who cynically blasts Spider-Man for wearing a dorky costume and saving people and having supposedly altruistic motives?

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
John Ostrander's Suicide Squad is one of my all-time favorite comics. Similar to JLI (which debuted at the same time, 1987), he took a lot of little-known characters nobody cared about and gave them interesting, unique personalities and backstories and group dynamics. Plus, he injected some real-world geopolitics and high stakes into the stories, and always had enough comic relief and melodrama to make it feel fresh and exciting and not too much of a bummer.

I have the entire series, all the crossovers, tie-ins, and guest appearances (Janus Directive, etc), the follow-up miniseries, all the Deadshot solo miniseries, and pretty much anything else pre-New 52, which I keep meaning to get bound into custom hardcovers. It made me a huge Deadshot fan to this day, even if I feel Will Smith is miscast (I would have gone with Timothy Olyphant), and I also have a soft spot for Captain Boomerang.

I read the first New 52 Suicide Squad TPB, but found it to be joyless and overly violent, with some really out-of-place body horror -- so pretty much in line with all the New 52 offerings. It doesn't help that I don't care about Harley Quinn, and the only thing I find more obnoxious than the Joker is fans who think the Joker is cool/awesome/badass/an antihero.

That said, I've enjoyed the hell out of most of David Ayer's movies, and I think the property lends itself to being a big, dumb, violent action/caper movie, so I'll be there. I never even bothered with Batman v. Superman, though.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Is Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) owned by Sony due to her name forcing her under the Spider-Man umbrella of characters? Because I think of her as an Avengers character first and foremost, who ought to belong with Marvel Studios.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

MrAristocrates posted:

Ant-Man should by all rights be a lesser Marvel film, it's just charming as hell and comes together greater than the sum of its parts.

The Paul Rudd Story.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Goyer co-wrote Dark City, which is one of my all-time favorite movies. I just don't like the dark, joyless tone of the DC movies so far, but I'm cautiously looking forward to Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman (which he isn't writing, at least).

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

SlimGoodbody posted:

Rocketeer is Disney. Captain America is Marvel, now owned by Disney. Indiana Jones is Lucasfilm, now owned by Disney. Cap 1 referenced Indiana Jones, and Rocketeer was a WW2 movie.

Give me my WW2 pulp team movie, Disney.

I want this so badly now.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I hated Man of Steel, thought Batman v. Superman: Extended Edition had some decent parts that helped balance out the awful parts, felt Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises were mostly joyless slogs, and never even saw Green Lantern.

But I'm looking forward to Suicide Squad, mostly because I'm still a huge fan of the late '80s John Ostrander series (although I hated the first TPB of the New 52 series). As long as Deadshot and Captain Boomerang are cool, I'll be content, even if the rest of the movie is terrible. And my wife, who normally isn't into superhero movies at all, actually wants to see this because of Margot Robbie as Harley, so it will be interesting to see what she thinks.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Seriously, people don't like Wentworth Miller? I think he's one of the best casting choices of all time for any superhero media as Captain Cold, and he was also perfectly decent as the lead on Prison Break.

I admit I haven't seen Kinnaman, Courtney, or Worthington in anything yet, but they all seem pretty bland and generic, and Miller is definitely not those things.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

JT Smiley posted:

Nope, not at all. I realize I'm in the minority here, but I can't stand his Captain Cold and was glad when he left the show.

Well now he's going to be appearing on Legends, Flash, AND Arrow!

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I know you were just talking DC, but I had always wanted Tarantino to write and direct a Luke Cage and Iron Fist movie, either in the present or as a '70s period piece.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Dario the Wop posted:

Tarantino would rock Heroes for Hire (Luke, Danny, Misty, and Collen!) or hell, Suicide Squad. I would've loved to have seen him rewrite the script and make those characters his own.

He's said in the past he doesn't want to do a superhero film because of fan complaints of faith to the source material, and that he'd rather make up his own. It'd be great if he were paired up with an artist. Love to see him and Alex Ross or Adi Granov design characters together.

Phil Noto and David Aja are two of my favorite artists, and I think their retro sensibilities would complement Tarantino well, and vice versa. They both draw from a lot of commercial illustration, magazine layouts, retro movie posters and album covers, and fashion design.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

twistedmentat posted:

I grabbed the Shout Factory release of Buckaroo Banzai, and I never noticed that the comic shown is a Marvel comic. I wonder if there was ever an idea of actually making a BB comic, then or later.

Marvel published an oversized Buckaroo Banzai movie adaptation graphic novel, which I have and would happily sell.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Mr Hootington posted:

a blue beetle (ted Kord) and Booster Gold bill and ted adventure would be amazing. they would run into various heroes and villains across time and multiverse.

I've only been saying this for 25 years.

And I would love to see Adam Scott as Ted and Joel McHale as Booster, even if they're both older than what WB/DC would want.

A Blue and Gold movie really is rumored (there's a screenwriter working on it), and in an interview, Nathan Fillion said he and Alan Tudyk would probably love to be in it.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Definitely. He's a handsome and charming guy, but past his prime, and like Booster, McHale also played college football. And he played a very similar character on Community -- a smug, smooth-talking huckster who doesn't value friendships or doing the right thing, until he learns to be a good friend and a good person.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I gave up on Agents of SHIELD two or three episodes into Season 3. It wasn't even bad, but it just wasn't doing it for me anymore.

I loved Agent Carter, though -- and that was another show with lower stakes, great characters, wonderful sets and costumes, and more of a tie-in to the movies, with Peggy being so important to Cap, Howard Stark's presence, and the Howling Commandos showing up. Season 2 had one of the best MCU villains, as well.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
People talk poo poo about Arrow, and the last two seasons have deserved every bit of it, but Manu Bennett was fantastic as Slade throughout Seasons 1 and 2. He is usually held up as one of the highlights of the entire show, for good reason.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
It also has one of Danny Elfman's more memorable scores (back before his work became as generic-sounding as every other major Hollywood composer), and some original songs by Stephen Sondheim.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Lurdiak posted:

I'm gonna miss Kat Dennings, but not Natalie Portman.

Same. I still wish Kat had been cast as the lead, because it would have been awesome for her to become Thor eventually.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Jamesman posted:

Comic nerds/possibly art nerds; Is there some reason why the majority of Spider-Man's villains have green for their primary costume color? Off-hand, I can only think of Shocker and Rhino that aren't green-centric that are human. Then you have the symbiote-based villains, which in a way could be deliberate as they're alien and weird and not-green = alien? But there are a couple non-alien villains who aren't down with the green motif which throws that out.

I get that red and green are complimentary colors so Spider-Man + Green Villain = Pleasing Christmas Image, but why are SO MANY of them green? Has it ever been brought up by the artists?

Comics Alliance posted some interesting articles about superheroes and color theory that you should enjoy:

http://comicsalliance.com/superhero-color-theory-primary-heroes/

http://comicsalliance.com/superhero-color-theory-part-ii-secondary-characters/

http://comicsalliance.com/superhero-color-theory-darkness-light/

http://comicsalliance.com/superhero-color-theory-outliers/

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

The image isn't showing up, but is it that Mike Allred splash page from FF?

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I like Patrick Wilson -- he was Nite Owl! But I don't think of him as a villain or a threat; I think of him as the guy who plays nice, stable guys who women always abandon for the cooler, more dangerous guy.

Kind of what Bill Pullman spent his career doing, aside from Spaceballs, Independence Day, and Zero Effect.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

purple death ray posted:

Not sure I can agree that Batman 89 started a superhero boom. Aside from the sequels to Batman what else was there until Blade came out? The Shadow and Phantom movies didn't exactly set the world on fire. I guess Spawn? Not much of a boom in there.

Dick Tracy, The Rocketeer, The Shadow, The Phantom, The Punisher (Dolph Lundgren), Captain America (Matt Salinger), Spawn, Steel.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Wheat Loaf posted:

Also Darkman.

Dammit, I forgot Darkman. And there were also two sequels that I've never seen... probably for the best.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Wheat Loaf posted:

The sequels also give Darkman (now played by Arnold Vosloo of The Mummy fame) this locomotive he rides around the subway on so he can get to and from his Darkmancave.

Raimi originally wanted to adapt either The Shadow or The Phantom but created Darkman when he couldn't get the rights for either of those. Imagine Sami Raimi's Shadow with Liam Neeson as Lamont Cranston.

Another movie that you might be able to slot into that generation, but one that I think bridges the Batman '89 era and the Blade era, is The Crow.

Good call on The Crow. And the subterranean Darkman choo-choo train sounds incredible!

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Cythereal posted:

Still, it's a valid point. I never got invested in Game of Thrones because it became quickly apparent that everyone was going to suffer and eventually die and no one was ever going to be happy or end well.

I was ready to give up on Game of Thrones after the "misery porn" seasons 4 and 5, but the last season, 6, was possibly the best one yet. It finally gave some of our "heroes" and point-of-view characters some much-needed victories and happy reunions, and the show desperately needed that.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

twistedmentat posted:

Oh this was posted in reponse to the image in the Facebook thread



Which is funny for two reasons

Third reason: "God's" instead of "gods."

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Roth posted:

Why'd they let Rob Liefeld design the Flash for this movie?

teagone posted:

High-resolution (3000x2000) version of the new Justice League image



Actually, it looks like Liefeld designed that entire shot.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Most of the X-Men, aside from Wolverine, don't really function well as solo characters, outside of the team. I think the push for a Gambit movie (and the whole push for the character starting in the '90s) was to create a cool, dashing solo hero who could be spun off into his own franchise while still appearing in X-Men stories.

Obviously he has fallen out of favor in recent years, while Deadpool became that very thing. But I'm sure someone, at some point (15 years ago?) thought about a Gambit franchise with an A-lister like Johnny Depp.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Lobok posted:

In an alternate universe this movie was made in the late 90s, starred Jean-Claude Van Damme, and got the ball rolling instead of Blade.

My favorite Van Damme movie is Hard Target, a John Woo-directed riff on "The Most Dangerous Game," set in New Orleans, with Van Damme in a trench coat with a mullet, playing a character named "Chance Boudreaux" and doing a bad Cajun accent. The bad guys are played by Lance Henricksen and Arnold Vosloo. It is violent and awesome as hell.

Wilford Brimley plays Van Damme's drunken Cajun uncle, who rides a horse and shoots dudes with flaming arrows.

It's the best Gambit film that will ever exist.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Lurdiak posted:

Gambit is like one of the top 5 most popular X-men of all time. He may no longer be cool to most of us, but people who stopped reading comics in 2001 still remember him as "almost as cool as Wolverine". Just like how Venom is still considered one of the coolest villains of all time if you ask a general audience.

This is totally true. I have a few acquaintances, as well as students where I work who find out I'm into comics, and they always ask me what's going on with:

Gambit
Cable
Bishop
Venom
Carnage
Ghost Rider
Spawn

And they used to ask about Deadpool too, but now everyone is a huge Deadpool fan (even people who don't seem to be into comics at all) and owns at least one Deadpool T-shirt.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Roth posted:

If I were you, I'd make up the most ridiculous bullshit about Spawn to see if they buy it.

My guiltiest comic pleasure is Savage Dragon, and I could explain all sorts of crazy (and completely accurate) stuff about the first 200 or so issues (long after it stopped being even semi-popular), but nobody will ever ask me about it.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I imagine everyone knows Lang from Avatar? I still haven't seen it -- yeah, I'm that guy. But funny enough, I just saw him in two movies in the last week: The Men Who Stare at Goats, which I had never seen before, and Tombstone, an all-time favorite, but I had no idea who he was back when I saw it a bunch of times in high school and college. It's weird thinking of cowardly Ike Clanton, with his lovely prospector beard, playing Cable, but that's how I know him best.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

site posted:

Man, Michael Douglass and rdj in a scene together...I'd go see homecoming just for that

See Wonder Boys. They both star in it, and Spider-Man (Tobey Maguire) hangs out with them too.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Back in the '90s, Alec Baldwin would have been a good Hal... Or a great Bruce Wayne.

But after I saw Army of Darkness, I always wanted Bruce Campbell to play Clark Kent.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Joel McHale has always been my choice to play Booster Gold, since he already played a VERY similar character on Community. Like Booster, Jeff Winger was a cocky, arrogant jerk until he made friends, joined a team, and learned to be a better, more selfless person. And McHale is a former college football player, just like Booster.

Add Adam Scott as Blue Beetle, and we have a superhero buddy action comedy for the ages.

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Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Chill Penguin posted:

Also, while we're on a fan-casting tangent: Glenn Howerton (Dennis from "It's Always Sunny...") for the Joker. Adam Devine (demamp from "Workaholics") for Hal Jordan. Or maybe Guy Gardner. The dude is a living Kevin Maguire drawing. Hell, he could play anyone (male) from JLI. He'd be a great Max Lord. drat, now I want a JLI series.

Adam Devine really bugs me, and I can barely articulate why. I've only seen him in a bunch of stupid ads and those Pitch Perfect movies my wife loves, but I think of him as having a very "punchable face," and then I feel bad for thinking it. Other actors who have gotten under my skin through no fault of their own include Eric Balfour (who?) and Jack Noseworthy (who?).

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