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Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"


Added that to the OW2 OP. Thanks.

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Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Jack B Nimble posted:

It'll take about twenty hours to clear the necessary number of missions to unlock the ow1 roster, and f2p games remind me of something once said about fixing your own car:

"And the labor's free! As long as you think your time is worthless!"

:yeah:

Never grind your dailies/weeklies/whateveries on F2P game,.
Play because you want to play, not because fear of missing out on 'rewards'.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Teriyaki Koinku posted:

Also, who is the Watchpoint Pack meant for? Brand-new players?

I figure buying the first battlepass is inevitable for me in the near future, so is the Watchpoint Pack worth it as a long-time veteran of the game who also plans on buying the premium battlepass later anyway?

Come to think of it, I don't think I've actually interacted with a battlepass system in a game in a meaningful way before. Maybe Dead by Daylight briefly? So this will be a novel experience for me.

Unless you really want the 2 New skins (and 10 older ones) , it is cheaper to just buy the Battlepasses as they come.
They are pretty good looking skins and one of the old skins is the Bastion with moss growth on him.

edit: I got it.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Sep 28, 2022

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Yeah.

There should be some exciting news still to be revealed.
We haven't seen Kirikos Cinematic short yet.
There is still map or two unrevealed.
Copenhagen and India maps were for new pvp mode. When are they going to reveal that?
The new Junkenstein event is coming soon after the release.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Macaluso posted:

Well, that's not entirely true :v:

the Origin story wasn't exactly in cinematic OW style.
There's a short 2 second clip in the Overwatch 2 trailer, that has Kiriko arguing with her mother that is in full cinematic quality.
edit: and she saves a kid on later clip.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 28, 2022

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"


That's the end game of f2p skin markets: :20bux: for a Bundle of licensed crap you don't care about.

I wish the game had a toggle for "Just show me default skins on everyone".

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

I haven't played the Gundam OW-game, but I've seen Angryjoe video about it.
I just don't care about the robots and the gameplay and maps looked a bit clunky.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"


tldr:
No more open SR.
You get ranks Bronze to GM with tiers from 5 to 1 inside each rank.
You don't see you SR drain after each loss or rise with each win. Instead after 7 wins or 20 losses you see and adjustement to your tier/rank.

No more medals, instead you see raw damage/heal stats for everyone: (as seen on beta.)


quote:

The placement system from past Competitive seasons is changing in Overwatch 2.

quote:

Instead of playing five matches without a rank, you’ll be unranked until your first competitive update after the first seven wins or 20 losses.
You can expect to start in lower Skill Tier Divisions after placement matches and progress the ranks throughout the season.

More detailed breakdown of all your matches during your session. You can check you wins.
You can check heroes you played in each match and what did you accomplish during your match with that hero.

Gold weapons are still competitive mode only:

quote:

Competitive Points will continue to be the reward currency for winning Competitive matches, rewarding 10 points for a win,
and three for a draw. Earning 3,000 points allows you to unlock a Golden Weapon for any of Overwatch’s heroes

Overall I see this pretty good.

Edit: lol, what a great snipe.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Macaluso posted:

Clean Junkrat is hosed up

He had to clean up his act as he is in luv... with Kiriko.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

So basically you can get to a higher rank by playing a lot. Except in higher rank you will lose more than win, so it will all balance out in the end.

So high plats could hit low diamond at the end of season and stabilize there, but low plats will stabilize on mid/high plat and not get higher, unless they really improve.
And repeat each season.
Seems fine.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Ryanbomber posted:

On the one hand this is probably going to reduce tilting when people aren't hit by Number Goes Down after every loss

On the other hand I can't wait for people to get confused and/or angry when they win their 7th game and go down in rank (because they lost 15 games)

That would be very stupid.
I assume they save that adjustment for when you lose your 20th game. Instead when you win 7th time.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

headcase posted:

You are going to have to pay big bucks to unlock a classic junkrat model.

I weep for all the new generations that won't know the story of dirty Junkrat.
All they will know is cleanrat.

#Junkraterasure

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"



TLDR: Old custom game modes and codes work and you can play them in OW2,
but you can't create new game modes at launch. It will be updated in future patch.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

First skin bundles were on twitter.






Still no pricing.
That left Sojourn skin looks pretty good, others are meh.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Jack Trades posted:

I only poked at it a little but I'm fairly sure that yes, you can re-create OW1 in it.
Lobby-limits could be hardcoded though. Can't play 6v6 if you can't have more than 5 in a team or 10 in a lobby.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Jack Trades posted:

They let you have 24 players in a lobby in OW1 right now, why would they restrict it to 10 suddenly?

I understood that wrongly then.
So you could do a 12 vs 12 quickplay mode with it?

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Jack B Nimble posted:

https://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-2-review-in-progress/

"The original Overwatch changed the shape of the FPS genre in the years following its explosive release in 2016, before Fortnite and battle royales took over. Instead of synthesizing what made the original game enviable and revitalizing it, the sequel takes what was left and wraps it up in a monetization scheme that could finally kill it for good."

Which of you guys wrote the article? Lol.

quote:

I played Quick Play in roughly two hour chunks each day and could fill out three to four levels of the 80-tier battle pass as long as I picked the appropriate heroes to satisfy my challenges.
So roughly 30 minutes per level with Premium battle pass exp boost and ~40 minutes without it. = 40 hours to finish the premium battle pass each season. Or 4-5 hours per week. More if you only play on weekends poopsocking 8 hours a day, instead of playing 2 hour sessions and more often.
Unlocking Kiriko would take about 35 hours for new people without Premium battlepass and finishing free battle pass would take 50-55 hours.

Note that these calculations are based on small anecdote by a single game journalists. He might be really fast about leveling or more likely be very incompetent as a player.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 29, 2022

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Get 100 Torb hammer kills should be a lifetime goal, that gives you a special spray or something.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Arzachel posted:

The hours per week calculation might not work as cleanly because your exp gain is usually heavily tilted towards time gated weekly missions.

True.

We saw earlier an example of weekly goals. Each weekly goal gave 5000 exp, one level requires 10000 exp and there was 11 weekly goals. = 4.5 levels from weekly goals.
How long it takes to accomplish all of them and how much exp you get from dailies and just playing? :iiam:

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Stylosa has a full breakdown of the battlepass, store, and prices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5SrpZa8sCI

Lol, to buy a full battlepass for cash only is more than 100 quid. Also a full breakdown of the grind tasks.

Dailies arent that bad:
You can do up to 3 daily quests (out of 6) each day for 3000 exp each = 9000 exp)
All of them look really easy to do.
If I really min-maxed and got lucky I could do it in a single game and
it takes 3 games max to do the dailies.

Now weeklies is where the poopsocking starts.
You need to get at least 20 competitive wins and 7 Arcade wins. More likely you need more to reach the other goals.
And you need to play all 3 roles as tank and healer to get Damage/mitigation/healing goals.

Best weekly goal was:
"Complete 7 games as a hero not in you top 3 played."
Get wrecked one tricks.

Seasonal goals looked great. Lot of win this new map 3 times or character specifics like "get 5 kills with Sojourns railgun."
Only poopsocky part was the final bigger competitive wins ones, which maxed out with 100 wins for 5000 exp.
Quickly calculating you get about 25000 xp if you do them all, and bit under 17000 if you avoid poopsocking.

Competitive goals were traditional season goals from OW1.
Lifetime goals didn't give any meaningful exp and were for titles and stuff.
Character goals werent' shown yet.

-----

Prices for skinbundles were way over my line.
20 $/€ each with one skin/emote/pose/voiceline and graffiti.
I might have gotten one with 10 euros and impulse bought more if they were 5 euros each.
edit: New Doomfist skin is technically 5 Euros, but I already got Tuxedofist, so don't need that.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Sep 29, 2022

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Content creators have been playing more OW2. Here's frogger memeing on the new push map as Lucio and later on playing Kiriko and bastion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xEuT2sDKM


Kiriko looks really busted in the hands of a competent player, but I'm not going to hit even half of those headshots, that frogger did. The teleport will be real OP even in my gold hands though. Long range and guiltfree escape.

There's also new Bastion tech for a superjump using his explosive as a booster. Frogger did the circuit spawn jump over the building with Bastion!

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

1000 less than a battlepass level. But if you just spent a bit of money, you could top that up...

There's +20% premium battle pass boost and grouping up xp boost.
+I assume that you will get xp for each game played, but there's no confirmation for that one.
Probably won't get 1000 xp for just playing 1-3 games.
edit: confirmed: You get Bp xp from playing matches.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Sep 29, 2022

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Father Wendigo posted:

Is that a seasonal goal? Are they introducing a LTM that's Fff/Torb only/hammers only?

That was just me talking before the video came out. Would be cool though.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

There's new skins/voicelines/sprays and stuff for Kiriko/Junkqueen/Sojourn, that you can use old currency for.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Sexual Harassment Horse.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Overwatch 2 embargo seems to be lifted.
In addition to content creator videos, all the major gaming sites have released their First Impressions about Overwatch 2.
What I've read so far they seem to be mostly positive with some concerns about different aspects of the game. Usually the monetization.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/overwatch-2-review-in-progress-disquiet-in-the-soul/1100-6507891/

https://www.polygon.com/23377275/overwatch-2-impressions-blizzard-ow2-release-date-platforms-ps5-xbox-series-x

https://www.ign.com/articles/overwatch-2-review

https://gamerant.com/overwatch-2-review-in-progress-slow-battle-pass-progression/

https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/overwatch-2-early-impressions-im-obsessed-again/

https://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-2-review-in-progress/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/krisho...sh=3c1eccf66489

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/overwatch-2

https://www.dexerto.com/overwatch/overwatch-2-review-1944392/

Full reviews with scores are still embargoed until release date, although most of these are basically full reviews without any numbers.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Time Crisis Actor posted:

The game looks really good! Kiriko seems like a more powerful Zen with better survivability. The pros will own with her while the scrubs will struggle to get kills.

Teleport is an obvious nerf target.
Other one is her kunais. Remove triple damage and raise base damage slightly. Healer shouldn't be able to doubletap dps/healers.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Turns out that Mei warcrimes was too much of a NPE for the victims:



RIP.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

I mean the new monetization is horrible, but I still I prefer it over lootboxes. Lootboxes was more predatory toward children and gambling addicts. New system is more honest "gently caress you, Pay me", Honest greed without the gacha component.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

adhuin posted:

Overwatch 2 thread OP <SNIP>

I've been tuning and editing the new OP for Overwatch some more and it should be near-finished.
Could people give it last looks?

Current plan is to post new thread on late Monday on Euro-time, so mid-Monday for US-goons.

First post is for newbies (What is Overwatch 2 and how it is different)
2nd post is for returning players (Changes and stuff)
3rd post is reserved for PVE, links and any other stuff that won't fit in other sections.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Oct 1, 2022

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Bacontotem posted:

It's like I never left.





Lol. Welcome back.

Did the Blizzard ever end up Probin/banning you for those losing shenanigans or was that just a wild rumour?

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Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

New thread for Overwatch 2

See you on the launch:

from ow1 launch:


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