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Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
Are we there yet?

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Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Hughmoris posted:

Hopefully blizzard releases a stat of how many people join the game within 5 minutes of launch.

And how many hours everyone spent trying to connect before launch.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Bluhman posted:

Well every loot box I've opened up so far has sure loved throwing gamer tags and sprays at me. Is this my punishment for ending up on terrible teams?

You'll be seeing a lot of that. The number of tags and sprays compared to everything else is ridiculous.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Soothing Vapors posted:

My favorite thing about this game is how mad everyone is if you are not an expert, 11 hours after launch

My second favorite thing is how bad I am at this game

I squeezed in an hour before I left for work. That introduced me to some wonderful fellow who had a match long meltdown when I "last-picked" Torbjörn instead of a support hero. I didn't even notice I was last because last means sweet gently caress all when you can switch at any time. I stayed with Tor of course. Spite makes the world go around.

This community will be horrible, and god help me I look forward to it.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Turtlicious posted:

Is there an option to remove general chat? I'd rather not hear the enemy team talk poo poo if I'm playing a game. :(

Not yet, but a global chat mute is bound to come at some point. They did it in Heroes of the Storm.

It's not like there's anything useful said in the chat in an online game ever.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Minorkos posted:

should there be a separate thread for tryhard effortpost discussion about matchups and strategy and so on? this seems like a bad place to talk about that stuff since the thread moves at 100 posts a second and most of it is just people being happy to play the game :rolleyes:

That's not a bad idea.

The effortpost thread better start with a tier list though.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Nehru the Damaja posted:

I love that when you beat the bots, some of them offer a half-hearted buttmad gg

Modern AI has 'tude, man!

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Thumbtacks posted:

Just bought this mostly because of peer pressure, but it looks really solid. I put an unheathy amount of hours into TF2 during release, and this looks surprisingly similar, I'm excited for it.

That being said, in TF2 I mostly played Pyro. Looking at the heroes it seems like Mei might be what I'm looking for, I like how she can lock down people and generally be a dick.

Is there anyone that's more Pyro-like that I should be looking at instead?

Symmetra is like a Pyro and Engineer combined. Her laser auto-aims like Winston's, and it grows more powerful the longer it stays on target.

Mind, she's the most fragile of the Overwatch W+M1 people.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Bone posted:

Speaking of skins, I opened this sweet Reinhardt skin the other day:


Zzulu posted:

can you imagine what this man looks like without his armor on?

Yes, I have a rough idea.



An old Arnold that never stopped pumping iron.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Abu Dave posted:

What are you supposed to do in the downtime when you're a turret girl and all our turrets are up? Shoot guys? I thought I saw that you could heal your turrets somehow?

I'm not going to say you can't heal your telepad because I have never tried, but I'm pretty sure the turrets have 1 HP. Everything one shots them. McCree's flashbang can probably kill them.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

TheTatteredKing posted:

So if Dva is totally actually super good you guys no really, how am I supposed to be using her guns? I guess there's some trick to it like getting the one shot kill on all body types with the scrap gun. Because holy gently caress the cannons seem to do Torbjorn turret dps.

Dva has auto-shotguns. Don't bother using them anywhere outside of short range. That's kind of the trick I guess. I see alot of pub Dvas shooting across the map and all they achieve is giving away ultimate charge to people killing the tankiest character in the game.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Bluhman posted:

while we're at it, dammit blizzard hurry up and make it so that Torb POTGs with heavy turret kills just focus camera on the turret.

Where's the fun in that? :confused:

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Knifegrab posted:

Whats a good counter to an all roadhog team?

5 Reapers and a Lucio if you're ballsy.

Some combination of Reaper, Junkrat, Reinhart and long range guys if you want to be on the safer side.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Ularg posted:

Also watching people play chicken with their hero choices is the most infuriating thing.

At least the chicken game tells you that you're on a team of trickle-in chucklefucks. You adjusts your expectations accordingly and pick a fun-haver hero or leave without repercussions while it's still in staging.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Bolivar posted:

Wait, I can leave the game without any repercussions when I'm in the character selection screen and the clock is counting to 0 and re-queue to a different game? If yes, this is great information for whenever I see something like Hanzo-Widow-Hanzo-Genji-Tracer. Or when I want to play an offensive class for a change after some Lucio games, and some idiot picks the same class as I have 5 seconds after I have locked it.

I can't find any documentation on the leaver penalty. This is based on my own experience. In beta I was flagged for weeks until I kept to these habits.

1. You can leave during the end of game summary.
2. You can leave during the countdown to the round-start. You must not have left the spawns as a defender.
3. You can leave an in-progress match if you are backfill as long as you do it fast. I don't know if the condition to this one is timing, location or action based, but I did it dozens of times in the beta before I began tolerating the lovely rear end king of the hill mode. Fast is safe.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Ularg posted:

Do they let you know when you get flagged? Cause I get a lot of disconnects during the day when my family is awake trying to use the internet.

It only tells you when you've dropped out of enough games to trigger the penalty. At that point you get a warning in your chat at the start of each session, and there's a message about the penalty on the endgame screen when you get experience.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
It really is an asinine system with no place in an arcade shooter with 10 minute long matches.

It's one of those things that tell you what games Blizzard usually make, and what they think of you as the player.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Ularg posted:

Does it go away with good behavior?

Yes. The way it works is they check your 20 most recent games against an unspecified percentage of incompletion. If you have left too many of those 20 games, the penalty triggers.

What this means is that with an occasional incomplete game every now and then, you'll play your way out of the leaver penalty very fast. However, if you dropped out of a bunch of games in a row, you have to play much longer to push that chain of incomplete games through your 20 most recent matches.

If you're going to penalize people, this is a pretty reasonable solution. People with bad connections and irregular drop outs will be the least affected. It just would make more sense as a system exclusive to Ranked games where the perceived stakes are higher.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 14:42 on May 26, 2016

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

exquisite tea posted:

At what point can you safely leave a game without incurring penalties? I've ducked out of some solo QMs when everybody on my team selects Reaper/Widow and doesn't budge, but before you're actually in the match.

Also the game looks even better now that I forced adaptive vsync, I guess input lag is a problem sometimes but I'm too bad at this game to even notice. Weird that it's not a regular option.

It seems to be safe to leave before the round starts while in the spawns, when the round ends, and right after hot-joining an in-progress match.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Where's Genji?

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Thor-Stryker posted:

D.Va is like the Vanilla WoW Paladin. She runs around with a poo poo-ton of HP but never actually does anything.

D.Va's problem is that she's an anti-tank that's worse than McCree and Reaper in every way. She can take any tank 1v1, but her lack of circle-strafe and her center mass critical spot makes it really tricky fighting smaller guys and groups. I think she only shines when you have another tank who plays poorly and you need her to disrupt the other team.

D.Va would be more useful if her role was suppression and she had weapons like the Heavy's gun from TF2.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

foutre posted:

Huh, fair, didn't realize that. I guess I was thinking just 1v1, it's pretty easy to negate his first clip and then just kill him as mech or pilot before he can dps you down, but I can see how that would be a pretty tough time when it's not just the two of you.

In my limited experience with D.Va and Roadhog, 1v1s favour D.Va because of Hogs clip size, but it takes so long for you to kill each other off that people usually butt in.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 09:33 on May 27, 2016

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Help Im Alive posted:

A week from now no one will ever get killed again by Hanzo/D.Va ultimates, right

Pretty much.

Reaper will always be allowed to stroll right up to blobs and wipe them all out though.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

DapperDuck posted:

That reminds me, does Mercy's damage boost affect some/all characters' ultimates?

Junkrat's rip-tire can't be damaged boosted.

I'm not sure about McCree's dead eye.

The other offensive ultimates work with damage boost.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 14:13 on May 27, 2016

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Hugoon Chavez posted:

How 'bout D.Va's? Tracer's?

God drat it. I spoke too soon. Let me think about it.

Edit. I've damage boosted D.Va during her ult and it played the damage chime and I got eliminations... I'm not sure if it increases the damage though. And I've never been in position to boost Tracer's ult so I don't know.

I'm going to stop posting like I know what I'm talking about. You're calling my bluffs!

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 14:06 on May 27, 2016

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

SHAOLIN FUCKFIEND posted:

Just had to figure out how to leave voice cause some guy was literally eating some kind of wet, disgusting food loudly over mic and breathing heavily, also he picked Roadhog

Can you mute people?

Hit P during a match to bring up the 'social channels'. It lets you disable both voice and chat.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

:smith::smith::byob1::smithicide:

At least we get overbux around level 40 from all the duplicates.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Andrigaar posted:

Also, since I just skipped 1400 posts, are we allowed to say loot boxes are poo poo or is that an every page post?

Sure. The problem is that the white boxes are garbage. Cut the sprays down to a fraction of what's in the game now and add ten times as many voice lines. Then the poo poo boxes would add something interesting while you wait for a good one.

Step 2. Make opponents hear voice lines too.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Jun 2, 2016

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Turtlicious posted:

Some of my favorite characters, ready to throw down!

http://i.imgur.com/JZXI1Y3.gifv

I'd spray the hell out of them if the pixel tags were animated.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Pomp posted:

yeah the super engaging mechanics of people killing you on accident, only being useful on first point defense, and medic but with a damge buff

It's hard to pass up Zenyatta after you've experienced the joy of shredding Roadhog in seconds from across the map.

Edit. Then you get one-shot the rest of the round by Widowmaker, and it's real easy to pass up Zenyatta.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Jun 3, 2016

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Help Im Alive posted:

The ideal solution would be to either give Zenyatta skates or convert Lucio to robuddhism

Free flight.

It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a sentient, ecclesiastical Omnic operating on a Newtonian flight model!

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

fadam posted:

Is it true Riot banned people for saying GGEZ?

That sounds like something that could happen. League has a weird ban system. Players vote on reports before Riot makes the call, I think.

What he said:

Mierenneuker posted:

They used to have a Tribunal feature where people could decide whether someone who had been reported several times had to be punished based on chatlogs and some stats from the match they came from. Riot found out that people overwhelmingly punished people who'd say "easy" after a game. It was a similar case for racism and homophobia (an illusive club to be part of!)

Odds are that they did give out suspensions for people who said "easy" after a game a ton of times. Bans on the other hand? That doesn't seem likely unless you had been repeatedly punished for doing the same thing over and over again and never learned your lesson.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Help Im Alive posted:

Also a surprising amount of Reinhardts still don't seem to realise the orb goes through their shield

It's a lose/lose for Reinhardt. Either he shuffles away in time while the congaline behind him stay still and get hit by the orb AND everything else, or he stands there and takes it like a champ.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Grammaton posted:

I wanna do some Symmetra on Attack and see if anyone says anything. Also to see if she can contribute anything. (Probably not much.) Although an escort mission with a car covered in turrets and a Reinhardt defending would be pretty funny.

They do.

The pubbie outrage to offensive Symmetra gets old fast. An offensive TP is just as good in Overwatch as in TF2.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

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Broken Cog posted:

I've seen Torbjorns try this probably 10 times. Every single time, without fail, it gets destroyed within 5 seconds of seeing combat.
I'm sure it can work great, but it seems like hell of a gamble, considering the payload is the center of attention at all times.

It's better with a Reinhardt shield in front, but then you've used a guy to protect a 56 dps turret.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

SlimGoodbody posted:

A 56 dps turret with seemingly infinite range and perfect accuracy that hose-blasts Torbjorn's ultimate to max charge in under a minute, thus turning the dwarf into a tanking melee and range assault vehicle who throws infinite team armor. Also the turret is healed to full now and one or two shots everything in sight as it rapid fires rockets.

Edit: the turret also points a brilliant red laser directly at enemies, pointing them out for your entire team.

Now you've made me want to do offensive Torbjorn. Thanks?

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

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Jastiger posted:

More theory from Jastiger:

I remain more and more convinced that a moderate or even not-so-good Mercy is way better than a good and focused Lucio or Zenyatta. When the game gets tough and its required to become focused and coordinated, a decent Mercy will ALWAYS offset the balance in favor of her team over a really good Lucio and Zenyatta. She's just too good. Consistently in really close games a team with a lucio as a main healer who is shooting everyone and beating their rear end is essentially nullified by a bad Mercy who ults every 5 minutes or so and gives their team that clutch win to get the point.

Its a shame because Lucio and Zenyatta are such interesting and fun takes on support classes, and they are just completely overshadowed by a Mercy and her ult.

Goon thoughts?

Yeah, you're probably right. It feels like Zenyatta would have more going for him if people didn't loving run away from his ultimate, but maybe it's not enough.

Just for shits and giggles, I'd like to see what would happen if Mercy's ultimate resurrected opponents too. Or alternatively, a Weekly Brawl with friendly fire on and abilities that affect everyone.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jun 5, 2016

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Pumpy Dumper posted:

Is the only way to be good at tracer to be high on meth? I feel like that's the only way to be sketchy and twitchy enough

Blizzard put Tracer in way back in the day so tweakers and young people could help their team without having to chill out. It's weird to see that hero endure today.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

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Ddraig posted:

As far as I can tell D.Va's sole purpose is to build up enemy ultimate at an elevated rate. Whenever there's only a single D.Va as our tank I know we're going to be in for a world of hurt.

Nah, D.Va has a dual purpose. She's there to suck up all the allied healing so useful people can't get damage boosted.

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Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Mierenneuker posted:

My understanding is that she used to have a different VA but replaced her with native speaker. They probably added most of the German lines at that point.

I wish they'd do that with Torbjörn too. You know those terrible lines he has that no one uses? Those are old sayings that would've sounded completely metal in Swedish.

Thoughtless posted:

A healing sniper would actually be hella fun. Sit at the backlines and fire medicine darts into their skulls.

I like what you're going for, but I'll pass on dying in a hail of inaccurate heal-bullets.

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