Overwatch: Goodbye Saintv77! Mission Flailed, You'll Post Better Next Time

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Overwatch: Goodbye Saintv77! Mission Flailed, You'll Post Better Next Time

«‹›5 »

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Xaris posted:

like for example.. WHAT THE gently caress DID THEY DO TO MY ROADHOG

They brought on the QA tester from Heroes of the Storm, Geoff Goodman, who saw all the people complaining on the Blizz forums about how Roadhog could hook and delete a 250 HP character and decided to do something about it. Per his words, it wasn't intended as a nerf! (he's not good at his job.)

Here's the last thing they've said about the subject so far:

quote:

We're testing some stuff internally for Roadhog. The focus of changes we're trying are around his defenses, rather than his offensive capabilities. Even though the hook combo is weaker now he can still dish out a lot of damage over all. If he had some more survivability he would be in a better place.

Please note that nothing has changed on PTR Hog since the May 31 gutting, so a fix is at least a few months away at minimum. As of right now, he's a walking Ult battery for the other team.

The big Overwatch eSports Championship thing was this past week, and there wasn't a team that didn't have Tracer/Winston/Mercy. Maybe try one of those?

# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 16:17

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 22, 2024 18:51

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Kokoro Wish posted:

I just thought, couldn't one thing with Roadhog be that, as well as improving his health pool and allowing him to heal on the move, etc, they could have attacks against him just generate less ult?

A lot of people on the Blizz forums think that's the next step, but it still doesn't address the fact that even with the healing and decreased Ult, he'd still be an awful pick compared to just about anyone else. Hog's current gun is so spotty and short ranged that even Tracer can walk off two shots delivered to the face at arm's length.

Coincidentally, I had an idea last night while I was crawling into the bottle: swap his hook and his ult.

His new Ult is the Hook'n'Cook - one character deleted if it hits, regardless of HP/Shields. Ult charge required would be around the 1250 mark. His Ability replacing the chain hook would be an abbreviated version of Whole Hog - using the ability slaps on the meatgrinder and fires every round in the scrapgun's clip, dealing good damage and knocking people back.

He's still a zone denial tank, but he goes about it a totally different (but kind of the same!) way.

# ¿ Jul 28, 2017 17:33

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

wyoak posted:

Doomfist feels kinda old Roadhoggy in that he absolutely crushes low awareness players and I'm wondering if people are going to start (or have started) yelling about it

They have been for about a week now.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2017 18:21

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

iroguebot posted:

Low res Chinese leak of the new Mercy skin, looks pretty cute.

http://imgur.com/a/7gndc

That's it? God, Kapaln has awful taste if he thinks that's her best one yet.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 16:41

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Kerrrrrrr posted:

i think it's quite nice, way better than "look at my tits" witch mercy

It doesn't hold a candle to her Uprising skin. :colbert:

# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 17:04

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

People are apoplectic over at the Blizz forums about Comp Lucioball locking your game into a state where nothing (even non-Lucioball related matches) ques. Merry Christmas everyone.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 20:41

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

People are reporting that the ball in Lucioball is occasionally clipping through the wall and ceiling and disappearing from accessable play. This update does not disappoint. :allears:

# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 22:29

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

My turn to beat the dead pig.

headcase posted:

My point is that it's all good and fun.

The only thing Nu-Hog does effectively is grossly inflating the Time-to-Kill of a fight, and make said fight feel like pulling teeth for both sides.

Roadhog's only trick at the moment is Surviving. Everything else - his mediocre chip damage, movement, zoning capibility, protection - is done better by other tanks or even defense characters. Meanwhile, anyone who picks a fight with him has to effectively chew through 900 to 1200 hp, depending on whether or not they feel like wasting a clip during the 2-second Take a Breather animation to squeeze a lil' more ult out of Boulevardboar.

They have to give him something - his primary/alt fire dealing knockback, effectively deleting 200 HP, a 4-5 second hook cooldown, ect. - that actually gives him something to do. Because he's not right now.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2017 14:57

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

frajaq@8:44 AM posted:

I should become a roadhog main until the end of the season just to see how bad he actually is, now you guys are making me curious

frajaq@6:46 PM posted:

oh my god you guys weren't kidding, what a miserable experience it was

Kai Tave@9:09 PM posted:

RIP frajaq, 8/16/17 - 8/16/17

A play in three acts. :golfclap:

-

Also...

quote:

Rest in piss hog man, maybe one day Blizzard will recognize their mistake

[RON HOWARD NARRATION] : They didn't.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2017 03:37

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

I played two games of Lucioball before my split shift starts this afternoon. First game had all idlers except for me and another guy. Second game showed me that 1v1 Lucioball is actually kinda fun.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2017 19:21

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

turtlecrunch posted:

Please don't make it easier for people to tell where Shadow Step is landing
Hasn't he suffered enough

Hey man, it could always be worse.

*glances mournfully at Roadhog and Bastion*

# ¿ Aug 20, 2017 01:25

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

I wonder what the significance of that last still shot of the turbine room is. I'm sure the Internet will figure it out by this evening.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 17:54

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Enallyniv posted:

Well you can guarantee the internet will have, by the end of the day, somehow decided that the slowly rotating turbine is simultaneously a new map, a new game mode, a new announcer AND a new character.

Also porn. Can't forget the porn.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 18:03

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

turtlecrunch posted:

The lingering turbine shot is because if you watch it on youtube they pop up some other video links over it at the end. It's just background noise for that.

Too late, I"m already drawing Turbine/‎Torbj�rn porn.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 18:32

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Bumper Stickup posted:

Hopefully one of their life goals is "Stop listening to people bitch on our forums and also not nerf Doomfist."

" ...except for the whole 'Fix Roadhog' thing, we are listening to that."

# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 21:44

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Supercar Gautier posted:

He seems to get confused and lost early and often, and he's surprised when it turns out that the full map is explorable (even though that's how every other map is).

I guess that that's par for the course now.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2017 17:57

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

turtlecrunch posted:

Here's my notes from the Seagull Q&A with Principal Designer Scott Mercer:

Multiple Mercy mains in competitive games: not as prevalent as people think according to their data, much bigger issue is games with no tank~~/support~~ players at all

Are you excited for the Roadhog changes: dev in choked voice, "Yes" - thinks with healing support Roadhog is very hard to kill

HMMM. :thunk:

# ¿ Aug 22, 2017 20:53

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

turtlecrunch posted:

+ No longer artificially deflating SR after placements, you should be placed accurately to your SR

Ugh, I haven't even finished my placements and knowing this is making me question if it's even worth the hassle.

They said they regret the gold weapon skins, right? They also said they balance around QP, right? Why not just have winning a QP game net you 1 CP?

# ¿ Aug 23, 2017 16:55

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

grieving for Gandalf posted:

why even have placements at that rate, then

God, if only.

But the only incentive for comp really needs to be e-peen. Doing placement in comp should give your character portrait a little badge denoting your current rank, which people can see in any game mode.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2017 17:00

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

That was... kinda dull. Especially after Junkertown: The Plan and the Bastion short.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2017 18:10

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Isn't the Arctic supposed to be completely dark for five months of the year?

# ¿ Aug 23, 2017 20:55

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

teagone posted:

Maybe she doesn't know how to drive or fly a helicopter?

Why would you think that a Chinese woman wouldn't know how to drive? :thunk:

Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Aug 23, 2017

# ¿ Aug 23, 2017 21:41

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

teagone posted:

I'll agree the voice acting in all the OW shorts could be better, but they're serviceable enough imo. From a technical/visual standpoint, I thought this one was by far the best.

They really need to stop recycling in-game dialogue and grunts/screams, that made the entire thing feel Asylum Pictures tier to me. I could forgive it when it's just a new map preview (... like in Junkertown: The Plan: The Better Short Released This Week), but this is something that they teased for a while as the stinger to the whole weekend.

In summary: if you're gonna hype something, make sure it's A-game and not streetball.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2017 02:59

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

https://clips.twitch.tv/AgreeableZanyPoxRaccAttack

:stare:

# ¿ Aug 25, 2017 02:51

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Kai Tave posted:

So, I mean, if you're worried about your squishies getting blitzkrieged by pro gamers in battlemechs, you could always go Torb and toss everyone armor packs.

God, if only.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2017 04:48

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Slime posted:

The PTR is a loving awful, awful, AWFUL goddamn way of testing balance because it jams good players up against bad players and the good players use a new tool a little and the bad players die and scream NERF. At least with actual matchmaking it at least tries to match people of relatively equal skill.

I don't think the PTR is about balance testing so much as it is free bug testing.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2017 17:09

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

kumba posted:

i think they said they increased the frequency of coin drops to compensate for less duplicates, not that they increased the amount of coins dupes give

For every arcade box and level up this event I've seen my coin balance increase by 110. It's all RNG, anyway.

Speaking of poo poo, it's time to pinch off those last two placement matches for Comp today.

# ¿ Aug 28, 2017 17:04

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

DeliciousCookie posted:

If I recall right, the damage reduction on his heal now means he also gives less ult charge during it. The damage reduction is amazing too, I managed to face tank several shots from Bastion's ult and wind up killing him with his own explosions. Also, Hog's damage is fine so long as you're not trying to snipe people, even more so if you're good with his hook. The changes let you play him stupidly aggressive now.

That's only during the two seconds of animation, where 50% damage reduction means they can charge 50% less Ult off of you while you're walking and expanding your hitbox for two seconds. I'd say he passable for funsies, but he's a liability in comp. At the minimum, he needs a passive 'Less Ult Charge Provided on Damage' ability and a 5-6 CD on the hook.

Also, Scott Mercer said in a Styolosa vid "Roadhog shouldn't flank, he's a tank" and that these changes help enforce that. If anything, it seems like i'ts reenforced it.

Montalvo posted:

With regards to the Junkrat changes -- if I have both mines down and tap the button to make them blow up, does it make them both explode simultaneously, or in order of being put down, or what?

Putting down a second mine deletes the first. You just have a second one off of cooldown to use after the first.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2017 14:33

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

DM is probably the best mode for Reaper right now, even if Reaper isn't necessarily the best hero for the mode.

This is also true of Symmetra and a number of other characters who don't work well in regular Overwatch because making the approach is too slow and dangerous.

I am wholeheartedly expecting a parallel DM Comp season for Standard Comp Season 7.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2017 04:04

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

exquisite tea posted:

Do people use the custom game browser much? Any rulesets that end up being a lot of fun?

Only Junkrat, projectile speed +250%, 1 second mine cooldown, KotH.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2017 15:59

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Manatee Cannon posted:

I'd appreciate it if they reverted the cooldown on the hook tho

I'd rather have a total rework at this point. Make his primaries deal knockback, change his ult to a hook instakill, and make Whole Hog an ability that uses your mag for 1-4 *klink*s. Give him something, anything to do since they've literally said he shouldn't do the thing the tooltips ingame tell you to do.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2017 02:28

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Bleck posted:

I got placed higher than I finished last season! I don't understand this game!!!

Their Pre-Season video explained that they were placing people approximately 500 points below their actual rating so players could earn their actual score because mandatory grinding is fun! But this season they're going to go out on a limb and try something different because they're wild and crazy guys!

Yes, really.

# ¿ Sep 2, 2017 03:03

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Bleck posted:

I hate Blizzard so much, it's unreal. And they made me lose my hard-on!

It's true. Your hard-on was actually barely a chub! Still, kudos on getting a chub despite being an 60's era IBM desktop with no genitalia whatsoever.

^{Roadhog was the only thing holding you back, also you are the Antichrist.}

# ¿ Sep 2, 2017 08:06

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Ehud posted:

Getting picks is funny and entertaining to most people.

Also it's funny to dominate with a bow and arrow in a game with mechs and laser guns and doomfists

But the arrows do have lasers, and they do 450 friggin' damage.

# ¿ Sep 2, 2017 16:53

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Bleck posted:

I tried to think of even a fun way for them to switch his tank and sentry modes, like maybe making the tank's rockets do Pharah-comparable damage but make the tank a lot more mobile, but even then, anything I can think of to make sentry-as-ult actually work seems too broken on paper.

I was literally thinking the same thing a few hours ago. You could make the tank shells do more damage the further distance they travel to impact (because Defense is now the sniper tree, you see), and have the sentry have screenwide spread but do windup/grindup damage where damage is exponential based off of hits registered - 1 makes 2 makes 4 makes 16 makes 256 makes gently caress OFF..

# ¿ Sep 3, 2017 04:17

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Mister Fister posted:

After the last patch, i've been getting nothing but duplicates in my loot boxes, i guess they reverted that change where they avoided duplicates now?

I've actually got a dupe spray and wasn't been compensated for it last night. I know because I already had Orisa's mask spray on the quick wheel loadout.

# ¿ Sep 3, 2017 18:19

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Venom Snake posted:

You could explain it with some techno-babble about him analyzing his opponents movement patterns to lock in on them.

Multi-dimensional brain: his ultimate fires stinger missiles that auto-lock onto the enemy

Blacklight Poster Brain: Bastion now has 50% damage reduction while using his Repair Module ability. To compensate, his damage per round in Sentry Mode has been reduced by 33%.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2017 00:48

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

EMC posted:

I think he needs a Sym level rework

Solution: Recon mode is left as is, Sentry mode still has the ~eh~ Minigun but can now move at half speed on tank treads and makes lots of noise, and the new ult is Ganymede flying around a single target and being a Peepin' & Poopin'Avain Avatar of Anger, causing them to move at 75% speed and unable to use abilities for 5 seconds while the target spews profanity and gets pooped on.

Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Sep 4, 2017

# ¿ Sep 4, 2017 05:29

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Didn't his fist hitbox go from being as wide as the blast doors on Route 66 to slightly smaller than his actual Doomfist?

# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 23:30

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 22, 2024 18:51

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Not mentioned: a Nerf to Rip-tire speed and Genji can now slice the instant he pops his ult. Because if there's someone who needed a buff, it was Genji. :suicide:

# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 01:58

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Overwatch: Goodbye Saintv77! Mission Flailed, You'll Post Better Next Time

«‹›5 »