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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Your opponent dropping a turn 1 hollow one when you're on the draw is pretty depressing. Managed to only lose 2-1 since he had to mull to 5 in game 2.

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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

So many thanks to C-Euro for the deck advice. I've tried to bodge together the cards for my GW token deck. Sadly fetches and shocks won't arrive in time for Saturday, and supply was limited for other things.

Main:
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Path to Exile
3 Secure the Wastes
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Intangible Virtue
4 Call of the Conclave
4 Voice of Resurgence
3 Rootborn Defenses
3 Lingering Souls
1 Growing Ranks
2 Parallel Lives/Anointed Procession (I know these are poo poo but I love them. They'll go when I fill out the deck)
1 Advent of the Wurm (2 more will likely replace the enchantments)
1 Odric, Master Tactician
1 Elspeth Tirel

8 Forest
8 Plains
4 Sunpetal Grove
1 Westvale Abbey
1 Godless Shrine

Sideboard (Hold on to your butts)
2 Rest in Peace
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 :( Damping Sphere
4 Sundering Growth
3 Selesnya Charm
3 Pacifism

Failing to make the cut but I'm not sure if I should throw some of these in:
2 Glare of Subdual
1 Selesnya Charm
1 Increasing Devotion!
1 Anointed Procession!
Leylines of the Meek!
Wayfaring Temples!
Secure the Wastes
Druid's Deliverance
Vitu Ghazi Guildmages
Rancors
2 Elspeth, Knight Errant
Another Elspeth Tirel

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Working with what I have now. Bought some cards to get to this point. Not opposed to spending a few more bucks, but there isn't a load of modern here.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

C-Euro posted:

I know you are still updating the deck but I still don't like the number of one-ofs you have. You can usually get away with a single fun-of in your deck if you're not sure what card #60 should be, but having that many singletons means more variance than you'll want.

Had a chance to play test against some proper decks today and realised how bad the 1-ofs are. Borrowed some fetches/shocks and cleaned up the main a bit. Tomorrow is a really competitive group with a lot of UW control, but we'll see how it goes

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

So the GW token did okay-ish. 11th out of 17. Had a close game against black devotion, and a 42 minute game 1 against a gain life deck that I was later told I could've won if I'd kept making GBS threads out tokens intangible tokens with elspeth instead of -5ing to try and control. Life totals were 53-58 at one point. The deck is a lot of fun to play, and I think some of the convoke stuff might make it better.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Well play wise this weekend was a bust, but I did do well on cashing out. My legacy/modern staples sold for about 12k and that leaves me with 4 decks and a lot of bulk and sealed to get rid of.

Good times.

Cardboard is way too expensive.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016


Do they just send you the deck? I imagine there's a crazy amount of insurance on those cards.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

PhyrexianLibrarian posted:

There's basically a "soft reserve list" of cards that aren't technically on the reserve list, but they'll likely never get a new version because:

- they aren't Modern legal, and
- they don't fit WotC's design principles, or
- they're way too expensive to include in a secondary "casual" product

See: Mana Crypt, which is still $130 despite being in Eternal Masters, and all the judge promos from P3K they've released.

Could they not print them in a non-modern legal set? Like a special edition of some sort?

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Out of curiosity I read one of the articles about timmies and johnnies etc and it said that call of the herd was a good card. A 3/3 for 4 with flashback doesn't seem that great, espeically compared to call of the conclave or advent of the wurm. Am I just looking at it through a modern lens and it was great in legacy?

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

PhyrexianLibrarian posted:

That's kind of the point; they _could_, but they _won't_. Like, there's no real reason they couldn't put Back to Basics in an Eternal Masters 2 set, but it sure seems like they've changed the kind of cards they pick for that set.

Here's all the cards over $20 that aren't on the reserve list and aren't Modern legal. They could reprint any of them if they fit WotC's modern design for drafting. But it's mostly tutors, land hate, broken mana, and a lot of P3K cards. Of the ones on that list, I'd say Food Chain is the most likely to end up in a Commander product or something.

Pretty sure I own temporal manipulation and exploration. If only I could find them again I could afford better decks.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Sampatrick posted:

The format has already adapted to beat Dredge which is hilarious. Dredge is good but Rest in Peace is better.

I learned that rest in peace makes voice of resurgence not "die". Guess it makes for easy sideboard when out: 4 voice; in: 2 rest in peace, 2 scavenging ooze

AlternateNu posted:

I'm waiting for the pendulum to swing all the way back and see Affinity destroy a couple GPs/SCG opens before people remember it still exists.

Affinity sucks to play against casually since it can run the table so easily game 1, and casually my group doesn't normally sideboard.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I'm so torn as to if I'm happy this happened or if this bugs me that people take cockatrice of all things so seriously. I didn't understand what he was talking about to start. Control players hate losing apparently.



e: Apparently I'm banned from joining games with them now.

ilmucche fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Mar 10, 2019

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Does voice of resurgence have a place in a gw token deck? Maybe not as 4, but as a 2? I've tried to load up on instant speed producers, and am thinking it could help bait counters on raise the alarms/advent of the wurms at eot, or help me stick lingering souls/elspeths on my turn.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Thanks for the comments. I guess I'll drop from 4 to 2, as I had 4 to help with control. Timely reinforcements might end up working better for the lifegain.

Could also be time to admit that gw isn't the best and spend the cash to dive into black, much as I love advent of the wurm and green in the deck. Cramming a nissa, voice of zendikar in would be the dream but I don't think it'll fit.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

So it's really bite the bullet and go in on IoK or thoughtseize? For green I really run only advent and one or two March of the multitudes with the voices. I love advent, but at 1GGW it's a tough splash when I'm already splashing for black with lingering souls.

Maybe a slower less instant focused game is what it needs, despite how much I love running instant speed to eat counterspells. BW tokens seems more of a real deck than GW if I can get the bitterblossoms and Sorin solemn planeswalker.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Going to be pissed when modern horizons drives the price of fetches even higher. Playing with straight basics and evolving wilds will be fun, I guess.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

ShaneB posted:

I can't imagine Tron sans Ulamog.

I'm halfway through the latest podcast. Good stuff!

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

ShaneB posted:

Yeah this is probably my favorite episode so far.

The interview with Ross Merriam was really good. I'll stop slobbering on the podcast before I get called out for it in the thread.

BW token has been a lot better than GW so far on cockatrice, got the pieces coming in the mail. Thanks for the advice thread folks.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016


Agreed. And also all the cards that let them dig for it. Tokens forever!

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I'm watching someone play lands in legacy and holy moly does it look fun. Shame the decks are insanely expensive.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What happened to neoform/allosaurus rider? Too fragile and pushed out by hogaak or waiting for the London mulligan?

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Goddamn bw tokens is a middle of the road deck. It'll never be enough to top 8 a real event, but it definitely won't finish last.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I'm looking at getting into legacy and was told modifying one of my modern decks is a bad idea. That manaless dredge list looks cheap and loads of fun. How does it deal with leylines and rest in peace though? Are they not playing in legacy?

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

TheKingofSprings posted:

Force of Vigor, Cabal Therapy and good old fashioned going under them (also Leylines are bad in Leg)

I'll have a look at some primers I suppose. The idea of a deck that wants to be on the draw and staring down a tormod's crypt or T2 rest in peace when it comes time to dredge scares me off.

Why are leylines bad in legacy?

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

fadam posted:

Might gently caress around and play ETron at Modern night tonight. What’s your guys’ policy for when you bring foreign language cards? I have the dripped out Japanese Karen and Ugin and I’m debating buying a singleton if each in English just to show people if one resolves.

I've played people who keep English versions they print at home in their deckbox. Seems a reasonable way to do it.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

fadam posted:

Ooh that’s a good idea.

I realised I lied, they're french versions since I live in socialist hell continent, but yeah it's pretty good.

They play the weird language card then pull the paper one out of their deckbox so their opponent knows what's up. It's a very considerate time saver.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

teddust posted:

I literally memorize all the images of new sets so I can play in pre-release tournaments in my county. Y'all can suck a dick if I play some legacy staple in moon language and you want to complain about it.

Hey it's every player at the lgs I went to in canada

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I played a modern tournament Sunday and there was one guy on urza. There was jund, uw control, ponza/Chandra tribal, a few death's shadow, another guy on tokens and burn. Plus some jank. It seems urza has been about slow on the uptake. Even fnm Friday had only one urza.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

suicidesteve posted:

Your opponent brought Grafdigger's Cage in against you

Yeah I'm not following what that would do against spirits

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Depends entirely where you are I reckon. Some people are saying modern has died for pioneer, others pioneer never took hold. Here people seem to be split and people have decks for both. Best to scope out your local scene and see what people are playing.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Manaless dredge in legacy because in cheap. Thinking of getting g burn because it's fun and cheap.

Modern seems alright at the moment? I haven't played in a while

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

The Q&A really cleared a lot of things up for me

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

If deadguy ale wasn't literal thousands I'd be playing it

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Got a match against oops all spells that boards into dark depths tonight. Not at all looking forward to it lol

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Delver very good, doomsday very good at the moment. Apparently lands as well

On the plus side I'm 4-1-1 with cloudpost over the past 2 weeks and get to play a bigger tournament today

ilmucche fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Apr 16, 2022

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I know there was a big legacy (106 players) and modern (even more) tourney in Birmingham last week. Autumn went undefeated in both on 8 cast in legacy and not sure for modern.

I think it'll be like 30ish people today so not super big. I don't have pen or paper so I'll remember as best I can lol

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Okay starting the day 0-2 against yorion d&t. Could've drawn round 1, but round 2 guy was on main deck magus of the moon and my only out is ballista. Kaldra is a house

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Mezzanon posted:

Want that full tournament report when you finish!

It went.... not well. Joked with a guy since it's beautiful out maybe I'll go 0-3 drop and enjoy the sun before round 1. Prophetic.
I'm on mono green cloudpost still running dark depths and maze of ith.

Round 1 UW yorion

G1 - He gets out a decent start with stoneforge and kaldra, I hide behind a glacial chasm for a bit but it gets bounced and he swings for lethal
0-1

G2 - Got a needle down on wasteland and hid behind chasm before eldrazi-ing
1-1

G3 - Time is short and we go to turns. I'm on turn 4 and untap with 2 carpets that can make 2 mana each, 2 forests, 3 cloudposts and an eye of ugin. He has lethal on board with a kaldra and another big body. Since he pathed a primeval titan I'm thinking I can run another one out for 6, go get 2 glimmer posts and have 15 mana to search up ulamog and exile his creatures. The titan gets countered and I lose. As I'm cleaning up I realize that 3 cloudposts = 9, and I paid 6 green to cast the titan, so I could've had 7 to search and 8 to cast ulamog and gotten the draw. Frustrated with that.
Lost 2-1
Matches 0-1

Round 2 W Yorion D&T
G1 - Start running out standard stuff, posts etc. Turn 3 he plays recruiter of the guard and reveals magus of the moon?? Apparently he's a red splashed D&T deck. I have only ballista as an answer but no way to find it. Some stoneforges were around.
0-1

G2 - He does it again. I am awful at stoneforge matchups. Kaldra is a brutal card, and I have pretty much no answers to a magus
Lost 0-2
Matches 0-2

Round 3 UW Delver
Don't remember much of this match except I was sick of seeing stoneforge around, and it's backed up by counters. Ran a green sun into a daze in desperation when he had 2 cards in hand. At one point I needled stoneforge so he hardcasted a batterskull.
Lost ?-2

So I'm 0-3 but decide to stick around because why not.

Round 4 UW Artifact control?
G1 - He durdles and I turn 4 ulamog, exiling a tundra and a shorikai genesis engine. A card I'd never heard of. He didn't do much else so I wasn't really sure what he was on when he scooped.
1-0

G2 - He drops a monastery mentor and I'm very confused having sided up for an artifact matchup. I try to chasm but he wastelands and gets in for lethal.
1-1

G3 - He mentors and has the shorikai on board. we go to turns and i'm hanging on trying to gain life. I swing with a primeval titan and he blocks with 5 mentor tokens and a pilot instead of crewing his shorikai, meaning he doesn't have enough to get lethal. We draw.
Draw 1-1
Matches 0-3-1 I'm on the board with a point lol

Round 5 Infect
G1 - It's infect and he's on the play so I drop a turn 1 reclaimer, he's got the unblockable guy. swings in with his creature and I take a 1 infect. I draw my chasm in a bit of bad luck and have to play it. He crop rots for a wasteland then kills me.
0-1

G2 - I needle wasteland on turn 1 off a forest, realising afterward I had once upon a time in hand, oops. Turn 2 chasm and he scoops immediately with 1 land on the board, and me having a needle and chasm??
1-1

G3 - I manage to needle wasteland, but he's started to find counters. Get hit with a vines of vastwood on an inkmoth, so I drop a maze of ith then copy it next turn. I start developing a board while he holds back, using one ith to untap my reclaimer when he has 3 cards in hand. On 5 infect with 1 maze untapped he swings with nexus again and I let it through, then next turn cast an emrakul and he scoops. Apparently he had vines in hand again and was trying to bait me into targetting the inkmoth so he could +4/+4 and hexproof it for lethal. Finally a win.
2-1
Matches 1-3-1

Round 6 Memes
G1 - He fetches tropical island, then plays urza's saga on turn 2. I don't want to deal with it so I play a rec sage, and a karakas turn after. He plays some legendary creature I don't really look at but when it does damage you can discard your hand, draw cards and it gives you mana. I bounce it with karakas when it attacks and then ask "wait, was that a minotaur?" I throw a needle out on digeridoo just in case and he starts hard casting minotaurs. Thankfully despite multiple attacks in a turn he can't beat a glacial chasm.
1-0

G2 - I needle digeridoo off the bat, and hide behind chasm until I can ulamog a battleshaper and get to emrakul mana.
2-0
Matches 2-3-1

All in all I made a lot of bad plays throughout the day. D&T is generally considered a favoured matchup for G-post but I'm awful at it. Was happy to beat infect though. I don't know if magus of the moon is seeing more play, but the pilot mentioned that blood moon is falling out of favour as there's a lot of removal for it with boseiju being played (I did not own a boseiju as of this morning), so I'm not sure what the solution for that is in this deck. Maybe Dismember?

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I have that discussion with opponents after matches. We discuss a bit sideboarding and lines chosen

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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

HootTheOwl posted:

Sailor's bane trip report:
Card is very good, and really hard to deal with.
It's only a matter of time before the secret is out and you can't just time walk delver with an endurance.
The real powe here though is that you can run it and an escape titan without consequence in a way you can't with murktide.

What shell were you running it in?

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