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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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tithin posted:Stopped reading Scotpol this time last year, got 5k posts to catch up on. Not really worth it.
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Jun 27, 2016 12:49
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tithin posted:Probably, when I started reading it last night it was you and Coohoolin talking about LFI votes at a pub or some stuff. I stopped paying attention and went back to playing Invisible inc. That's a fair summary. Very occasionally someone will say something outlandishly stupid and everyone jumps on them, but it never gets exciting.
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Jun 27, 2016 12:56
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Ash Crimson posted:I thought the eu ruled out scotland staying in the EU if there was a brexit? Conflicting reports. But Scotland isn't necessarily looking to keep the UK's membership benefits (obviously that'd be nice but highly unlikely), just trying to get fast-tracked membership for when we do have the second referendum on independence. It is notable that the EU has ruled out talking to the British government until they start the wheels on motion with Article 50, but are going to be having high level talks with the First Minister tomorrow.
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Jun 28, 2016 13:29
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PiCroft posted:I strongly suspect that a second indyref would fail to pass. Emotions are high right now, everything is in flux and the dust is still settling - when/if a second ref comes about, we'd necessarily have to revisit all the old arguments that sprang up in the first one (albeit with the EU situation significantly changed). Economics, currency (really, would Scotland want to change to the Euro? I'm not entirely sure), the deficit and building a border between us and England. Well, we'll have to see what happens on the Irish/Northern Irish border. Obviously a border with full custom checks between Scotland and England would be bad. Think of the hassle for poor Arbroath fans going to Shielfield to see their team play Berwick for example.
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Jun 28, 2016 13:40
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baronvonsabre posted:Goddamn, I didn't realise it was that bad for Wales. If you think the central belt got destroyed by Thatcher, well, formerly industrial Wales got it at least as bad and has had a fraction of the recovery. The Valleys have really been forgotten, in that sense I can understand why they probably viewed voting to leave the EU as bloodying the nose of the establishment. If only because the case for the EU was made so abysmally.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:13
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baronvonsabre posted:Police Scotland: No rise in hate crime in Scotland since Brexit While this is something, it's still a pretty bleak time to be someone with dark skin or a foreign accent. My mother works at a Primary School in the in the village I grew up in & she was telling me that a young family are going back to Poland. They've not had any abuse but they are absolutely terrified of it happening and so just don't feel comfortable staying here. It's grim.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:25
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I'm trying to imagine how comically bad a Scottish Eurovision song would be. It'd just be Runrig, wouldn't?
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Jul 1, 2016 13:50
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Extreme0 posted:Do what Finland did and pull a lordi. It should be Alestorm. I'm sure I've said this before, but oh my god Alestorm are one of the very worst bands I've ever seen live. Horrible. And all their goofy fans dressed as loving pirates. Heavy metal is serious business, stop having fun!
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Jul 1, 2016 14:57
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CommissarMega posted:Alestorm is the best thing to come out of Scotland and you know it Mogwai are the best musical thing to come out of Scotland. Indisputably. (Feel free to dispute it though, I'm being hyperbolic, in case that needs to be said) As for the best thing full stop? It's tablet. Extreme0 posted:Right. Because it would remind me that I paid money to go to see Alestorm, & I try to forget that, even if it was just to see the support band. Because I still saw them. And the terrible Christian power metal band who opened. Don't scratch a healing scab or something.
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Jul 1, 2016 15:48
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Yes, above even Gloryhammer.
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Angepain posted:I'm not sure Mogwai would go down particularly well at Eurovision, though Bet they would. Just 4 guys on a stage playing some good music. Maybe a couple of strobe light effects. It'd be wonderful, they'd get max points from everyone except England, & the French who are mad the song wasn't sung in French. Despite being an instrumental. I fully concede that I may not be fully connected to the views of the average Eurovision viewer though.
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Jul 1, 2016 15:59
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Yeah, after they put up stickers in Glasgow I ended up reading their website. They seem like the worst of both the internet and fascism. The fawning over poo poo memes really lessens the fear factor. I mean maybe I'm just a crotchety auld fucker but "esoteric memes" is not a phrase any oval office should uttering, sincerely or otherwise.
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Jul 2, 2016 08:50
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What an odd post to make in ScotPol
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Jul 10, 2016 02:47
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Glad to see David Coburn is still an idiot. Something quietly reassuring there.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:17
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Acaila posted:So I just discovered the electionleaflets.org website, and while I am sad at the lack of Ronnie the Crofter, I did find something from the Scottish Christian Party, aka the local teuchter protest vote lot: Oh, I got that one!
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Jul 15, 2016 15:41
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big scary monsters posted:Finding myself in agreement with David Coburn, what is the world coming to? Be glad for the old cliché that even a broken clock is right twice a day. Or once a day if it's digital. But the point being it is right sometimes despite being absolutely wrong for the rest of the day.
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Jul 17, 2016 14:41
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Coohoolin posted:Pack it in unionailures, Sabaton have thrown in with indy. I cringed so hard it caused me physical discomfort.
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Jul 18, 2016 15:26
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Since we've turned ScotPol into "bad power metal: The Thread", here's a really bad song by some Swedes, Lost Horizon It's called Highlander (The One) so I've decided that's enough of a connection to Scotland to warrant posting here. Is doing a 12 minute "epic" song about The Highlander better or worse than an entire album about The Silmarillion? And why is that I will tolerate black metal bands referencing Tolkein but instantly hate every other song that references his works?
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Jul 18, 2016 16:47
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Reveilled posted:Are you saying you hate They're Taking the Hobbits to Isengard? I should've clarified, I meant every other metal song that references his work. Obviously I have an enduring fondness for They're Taking The Hobbits to Isengard.
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Jul 18, 2016 16:54
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Alertrelic posted:In other news: Jesus, those are a lot of words to say "I want to gently caress my sister". Creepy.
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Aug 2, 2016 09:15
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Eh, the reason Twitter are jumping on David Torrance is dumb as gently caress though. Actually, every single thing about "a Scottish Six" is probably the dumbest thing in Scottish politics in my life time.
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Aug 3, 2016 16:32
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Niric posted:Scottish TV news is loving dire and laughable as it is, often padding their slot with complete non-stories. Why are people so desperate for "Scottish Six"? Making the news even more parochial seems like a terrible idea. Scotland 2016, which was actually pretty good, was axed because no one watched it - which includes all those demanding more Scottish news - so it's not like there's this huge demand for Scottish political coverage. Yeah, it always reeked of parochialism to me as well. Plus a waste of money. Will we have to have a Scottish correspondent at Westminster or does Nick Robinson or Laura Kuenssberg just have to pull double duty? All the people who support it seem to be pro-independence. And they generally seem to spend a lot of time moaning about how terrible BBC Scotland are. So why do they want BBC Scotland making an hour long news program? I'm not sure they've thought it out at all. But then I don't suppose "GA Ponsonby" & the like are exactly known for thinking things threw before spewing forth nonsense.
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Aug 3, 2016 17:12
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keep punching joe posted:The Scottish Six is not about making the news more parochial, it's about making the news more relevant. The BBC has failed to come to terms with devolution and reports on issues that are wholly English as if they are UK wide. Other than for us to point and laugh, what's the point in the national news reporting on junior doctors contracts and a-level results? How does having an extra 30 minutes from BBC Glasgow have any impact on the quality of news coverage? Quality is more important than quantity. Pissflaps posted:Where I live there's national news - including news from Scotland - and local news. We get the same BBC News at 6pm until 6:30pm as you get down south. We then get Reporting Scotland from 6:30 until 7. The people who want a Scottish Six want all our main evening news broadcast, from 6 until 7, to be from Scotland. And yet we're assured this won't end up being parochial. Anyone who has ever watched Reporting Scotland knows they regularly struggle for content, so the idea of an entire hour, even with Westminster/rUK & international reports, it stretches credibility.
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Aug 3, 2016 18:00
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keep punching joe posted:Reporting Scotland struggles for content because all it reports on are murders, and some rather shallow coverage of Holyrood. I'd hope that with a wider scope and much higher budget they could do something more comprehensive. The BBC in London would still exist and the hypothetical Scottish Six would have access to correspondents and video features that they can slot in amongst their own content. That's all predicated on this idea that it'll get magically better. And it won't. A Scottish Six answers none of the criticisms of BBC Scotland's coverage which you get from the usual suspects, who all seem to support the Scottish Six. BBC Scotland need to prove they can do a half hour, a good 10 minutes of which is usually chatting about the Old Firm and whatever spurious made up transfer rumour is doing the rounds today (while occasionally touching on the rest of Scottish sport, unless Andy Murray is playing), before getting responsibility for an entire hour long news broadcast. It's so weird to me that people think this will be a magic pill to fix everything they think is wrong about BBC Scotland's news output. I just don't see it, at all.
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Aug 3, 2016 19:23
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I'll be sad if Dundee no longer has two football stadiums on the same street. The story in the P&J about people playing Pokemon Go at the Piper Alpha memorial is quite funny though. In a dark sort of way.
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Aug 5, 2016 10:59
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Niric posted:Cheers for all this, you really get an impressive range of stuff. The National is really loving bad. I bought the first couple of issues out of curiosity, but was sorely disappointed. They've only gotten worse, somehow. So loving provincial, it's tragic. Also, I'm totally sceptical of Steven Purcell's conversion to socialist ideas. He was pretty crummy when he was at the top of GCC (mind the halcyon days when Labour had almost complete, unchallenged control of Glasgow City Council?). Still, nice if someone in Scottish Labour is on board. ScotLab seems in a bad way right now.
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Aug 15, 2016 10:13
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cheerfullydrab posted:As an ignorant American, do you think the outcome of the last referendum would have been affected if the two options had simply been "SCOTLAND" or "UK"? No other language whatsoever, no context available at the polling place. It's pure speculation of course but I suspect there'd have been a small increase in pro-independence share of the vote, but not large enough to really change the outcome. I'm talking less than 1%.
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Aug 15, 2016 15:03
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Niric posted:
Fortunately I'm not totally sure that ScotLab wants to recover. They seem to echo the wider party in shambles, without the energised membership. Well, a lot less of the energised membership anyway.
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Aug 15, 2016 17:08
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Angepain posted:Perth has landmarks? The Broxton roundabout & the railway station, & any other routes out of town?
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Aug 16, 2016 13:35
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This morning Nicola Sturgeon gave a speech about how important oxygen is. In protest, Aberdeen resident Jedit has proclaimed it deeply cynical and exploitative & is now on oxygen strike.
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Aug 19, 2016 11:40
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cargohills posted:Corbyn ruling out a "progressive alliance" is the best news to come out of all this Labour shite. Labour need to improve SLab and actually deal with myths of a progressive SNP, not parade them around like heroes. Oh one hand yes, on the other hand, ScotLab are loving hopelessly shite & the rarely seem to muster a critique of SNP more damning than "SNP BAD". Which is annoying when Jedit does it & a trillion times more when it's MPs who should actually be putting forward the case for why the SNP are bad. But then Scottish Labour hasn't had any vision since Donald Dewar died. Of course I have no idea how to change that so this is pretty much just "LABOUR BAD" so I guess I'm being hypocritical. But I really don't know how ScotLab turn it around. It doesn't help that ScotLab is now to the right of the rest of the Labour Party (members wise).
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Aug 22, 2016 23:33
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I mean at some point the real chancers will start becoming MPs & eventually there will some proper sleaze & corruption stories coming out, but I suppose it's impressive it's not happened yet.
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Aug 23, 2016 10:42
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Jedit posted:Isn't it three SNP MPs that have already been removed from the party over corruption allegations? It's definitely a start but it still made no real dent in support. All 3 events are bad but we've yet to have something on the scale of Neil Hamilton, Jonathan Aitken & Jeffery Archer. It's not like the repeated resignations for sleaze of Peter Mandleson brought down New Labour either.
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Aug 23, 2016 11:08
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Pissflaps posted:3 out of ~40 new MPs within 18 months seems like a very high ratio. It is. And yet it's not high enough. Look I'm grasping at straws. Maybe the Scottish people will never bore of the SNP & we'll become an effective one party state like Japan. I hope not.
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Aug 23, 2016 11:35
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Acaila posted:Britain's last elected communist steps down from his Fife constituency: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/-sp-britains-last-elected-communist-councillor-willie-clarke?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet It's still sad in an end-of-an-era kind of way to lose the last elected communist. Seems to have been a well regarded local councillor too, which is a rare thing in this day & age.
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Aug 26, 2016 17:17
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So hey, Alan Roden is Kezia Dugdale's new Director of Communications. Who is that? Why, he's the Political Editor of the Scottish Daily Mail. A perfect fit for New Labour really. Strong on immigrants & the causes of immigrants, & devoutly pro market. Hooray. (still probably a less shambolic choice than Seamus Milne mind)
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Aug 29, 2016 16:14
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I bet that story on the front of the Daily Mail isn't based in reality.
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Sep 1, 2016 10:28
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Moving on to more important things than "what drivel is The National making up today?" that pun on the front page of The Sun is appalling. Cid-heir? gently caress off. I hope Rupert Murdoch loses all his money & whoever wrote that ends up unemployed when the Communist Party buys The Sun & merges it with the Morning Star.
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Sep 2, 2016 09:53
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Anyone who thinks sticking a bunch of otherwise unappetising offal inside a stomach is a uniquely Scottish idea probably needs to get out a bit more.
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Sep 2, 2016 13:52
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Coohoolin posted:Interesting approach, this! Scottish universities agree to lower entry standards for disadvantaged students. Still don't think I'll get in with 2 crappy Highers tbh. It's a conspiracy to keep me out of university. (No it's not, I could just do an Access to HE course. Shame Inverness College (sorry, the University of Highlands & Islands) doesn't offer them)
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Sep 6, 2016 18:29
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Niric posted:Ach, well if it's unreadable I'll stop; it's just to pass the time on my morning commute. It's really not unreadable, only 2 people complain about it & one of those is Pissflaps.
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Sep 7, 2016 00:39
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