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Zulily Zoetrope posted:
Dual citizenship: Canada + UK (inherited). gently caress Brexit, incidentally.
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Cardiac posted:With that mindset, you are probably going to run out of countries to live in rather soon. As a progressive leftist, Denmark offers me fascists and, frankly, fascist enablers in Venstre and SD. As a Canadian, this has been a shock. Living in København I have actual leftists to vote for but they are not forming a government any time soon. SD is a huuuuge letdown federally.
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Jul 22, 2018 08:03
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Cardiac posted:Don’t you have Harper in Canada, so you should be used to it, unless you are Québécois? We dumped Harper some time ago. The current Trudeau government is pro-immigration and multiculturalism. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/11/canada-cabinet-trudeau/414280/ Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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Jul 22, 2018 13:16
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As an aside, ethnonationalism has a problem in Canada as immigrant communities have acquired political influence. In B.C., concentrations of Chinese or Sikh immigrants have become locally empowered and eventually local power becomes federal as they elect Chinese or Sikh members of Parliament. Likewise in Toronto, Indians and Chinese communities have ended up concentrating in growing communities and are influential in politics. Once they get power, you can't ignore them.
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Jul 22, 2018 13:25
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THE BAR posted:S, DF and K all seem to think, that being willing to shake hands should be mandatory when applying for citizenship. It's rare you know exactly when you decided something, but my desire to pursue Danish citizenship just finally died reading this.
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Aug 19, 2018 17:57
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SplitSoul posted:No wonder the hypocritical swine can't get that Saudi halal dick out of their collective mouths. Kinda homophobic there, buddy.
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Aug 19, 2018 17:59
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Buller posted:So you can't vote against it but just sit around and let it happen? Nice complacency. Actually I am considered quite a "politically correct" complainer at work because I keep commenting on how it's shocking to me how Danes openly accept levels of sexism, homophobia and racism in the workplace that I would expect to result in huge complaints to HR back in Canada. I've repeatedly commented to upper management, for example, that one junior female solution architect in a department of 60 architects is totally insane and unjustifiable. I've grown increasingly disillusioned with Danish politics and, frankly, Danish attitudes over my year here, and am having serious doubts about staying in Denmark long enough to earn citizenship. Jokes about learning Danish aside, the politics frankly sicken me. In the mean time I will continue to mentor younger peers at work and try to work to improve gender equality in the workplace in the hope the emerging employees will have a less toxic work environment. But my original intent to buckle down and work on Danish citizenship (a 5+ year process) is flickering out as a result. I voted in local elections for the leftists, but the only tolerable parties are basically fringe here as far as I can see.
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Aug 19, 2018 23:21
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SplitSoul posted:I'm not implying either party is homosexual or that homosexuality is bad, I'm saying the Danish government and the Social Democrats are so subservient to the whims of one of the most repressive regimes on the planet that they would happily provide sexual favours for the Saudi royalty also, figuratively speaking. I sure hope my faux pas wasn't nearly as bad as flogging gays and trans people half to death. You basically just confirmed that your preferred metaphor for being subservient is sucking dick. You don't see the blatant homophobia in the association there? Seriously? You just insulted a group by calling them a bunch of dick suckers, and therefore subservient. But no, you're not implying *anything* about gays. Noooooooo. Mere coincidence.
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Aug 19, 2018 23:29
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I really didn't think anyone here was stupid enough to try variations of the "a 'human being' is just a bundle of sticks, man, no homophobia" defense in 2018, but there you go.
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Aug 20, 2018 10:11
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Dirk Pitt posted:Shut the gently caress up and stop with the virtue signaling. The post was not offensive or intended as offensive you dense gently caress. Yeah, it was a homophobic insult, you dense gently caress. I agree it'd be quite ordinary to hear that sort of thing from Danes, however, in normal speech. This is the problem. Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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Aug 20, 2018 10:18
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THE BAR posted:I do not think that generalizing entire nationalities, unless in jest, is much better than homophobic insults. Discussions with multiple colleagues, young and old, who have lived in Denmark and elsewhere, lead me to think there is a basis for saying that Danish society accepts a higher degree of open sexism and homophobia than I experienced in Canada (and the US). When I mention this, I am told 'oh thats because Danes are less hung up on the PC culture you come from'". *Nobody* has ever said to me that I was wrong in the last year when I've brought it up. Feel free to do so. I do not go from the general to the specific - the observation that Danish culture is X or Y does not mean any particular Dane agrees with X or Y. I know many who don't like it, but they're younger.
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Aug 20, 2018 10:50
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THE BAR posted:Maybe I'm just blind to all of this since I live here, but there are monsters in every country, yes. I think it's more prevalent in older men; I am 50, and many close colleagues are near my age - we had comments from one senior person in an onboarding session talk about his wife 'you know how *women* get, all emotional and weepy'. I was 'uh, whaaaaat?'. At lunch in the cafeteria, someone referred to a TV presenter who is openly gay as 'that human being' offhandedly - nobody even blinked. The fact that in my department of 60+ people there is exactly one junior female IT architect, and she recently hired *after* I spoke to our SVP about how there were *zero*, on International Women's Day, of all days. During onboarding, where I was one of the older people present, I made a point of talking to some of the younger hires, many of whom were Danes who had done some school in the USA, how they compared Danish workplace culture to others they knew, and they gave mixed responses - some said it was about the same, others said Denmark was more sexist in the workplace - none said Denmark was *less* sexist. As someone who grew up imagining the Nordics as socialist paradises in the news, I was really, truly shocked. The blatant race-baiting in politics is a part of this to me, I'd never expected. I'm also not talking to 20-somethings regularly, it's quite possible the younger people have more awareness. I can say their English is far better - many of my 50 year old colleagues have difficulty but a 25 year old graduate will probably be near-native fluency. I apologize for offending anyone who disagrees, it's just every time a new law punishing immigrants comes out, my feelings about Denmark drop another small notch. I came here with plans to stay, learn Danish, work towards citizenship, the whole thing... and I keep hearing things like this that make me less and less hopeful and excited about the whole project. Back to discussions of the next law from DF.
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Aug 20, 2018 11:25
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SplitSoul posted:It's cute that you have to make up a fictitious scenario in which I called the Danish government (9 women, 13 men) and the house of Saud "faggots", instead of characterising the former as sexually subservient. You know, I wish they'd just suck each other off for real instead of flogging gays and literally crucifying others in 2018, but I guess the real issue here is decorum. You called the Danish government (and SD) a bunch of dick suckers *as an insult*. I pointed out it's just a variation of the 'but a human being is just a bunch of sticks' defense, where you try to frantically deny you meant it as an insult, which defies any plain reading. Either you can't read, or are merely still trying to backpedal - in any event, falling back to a rather idiotic 'waahhh decorum' remark instead of addressing the homophobia *inherent* in the insult. Seriously, it's like calling someone a oval office as an insult and denying it's a sexist insult objectifying and demeaning to women. You clearly have never been called out on using homophobic remarks as insults before, I guess. Maybe you could learn from it instead of transparently denying responsibility for your choice of words? It's part of growing up.
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Aug 20, 2018 14:55
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SplitSoul posted:I'm totally serious about the word "bad", however. Its etymological root is the Old English word for hermaphrodite, so tread carefully and consider saying "ungood" instead. Possible but far from certain. https://blog.oup.com/2015/06/history-of-word-bad-origin-etymology/ https://blog.oup.com/2015/07/history-word-bad-origin-etymology-2/ https://blog.oup.com/2015/07/history-word-bad-origin-etymology-3-dutch/
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Aug 20, 2018 20:01
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SplitSoul posted:Intention doesn't ever matter, haven't you heard? It's a common enough hypothesis to be included in a vast array of established dictionaries, therefore all bodies of text including the word must retroactively be considered transphobic. You just have to keep picking at the scab, don't you? Others have pointed out you clearly used a homophobic/sexist slur, but your ego just can't let it go. Pretty pathetic.
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Aug 20, 2018 23:52
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Biomute posted:Monitor off etc. Stop it with the lovely trolling. Given multiple posters have concurred that his comment was clearly homophobic and/or sexist, and that he keeps playing word games to avoid taking responsibility for his own words instead of accepting it and moving on, the one trolling here isn't me, friend.
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Aug 21, 2018 09:24
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evil_bunnY posted:My dude have you considered loving off Really the reaction from posters acting so hurt about being called out for casual (unthinking) sexist and/or homophobic remarks is pretty clear support for the original point that such behaviour is widely considered acceptable in Scandinavian countries, even among self-described leftists. Certainly there may be an issue with Danes understanding the possible subtler meaning of the words in English as opposed to Danish, but open minded people should be able to grow and accept that certain things have meanings they may not have intended. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 21, 2018 10:45
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Aug 21, 2018 15:36
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His Divine Shadow posted:Pretty sure it was like two trolls who then got told to STFU by everyone else. It was more than two people, and pointing out certain insults carry baggage the user may not be aware of is not exactly trolling, sorry. But since the thread isn't interested in the subject, apart from correcting you on these minor points, let's drop it.
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Aug 25, 2018 14:11
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:V is the perfect choice if you think Venezuela is an utopia. Take that weak-rear end troll poo poo back to Reddit
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Aug 27, 2018 18:31
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Sep 8, 2018 21:33
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Living in Denmark, seeing posters voting (V) hurts my brain a moment until I think 'oh, right. Swedes.' Do Swedes have a library of sounds like Danes? i.e nååååh etc
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Sep 9, 2018 07:49
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SplitSoul posted:The greatest upside to instituting NemID voting would be that old people couldn't figure it out. And soon, MitID
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Sep 11, 2018 05:13
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How does Stockholm differ from København?
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Sep 25, 2018 16:23
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Beeswax posted:More hills Man, yeah, this place is flat. The tallest building in *Denmark* (Herlev Hospital) is a medium-sized apartment building for God's sake. Still, cycling yay. The CPH metro is ok, once they complete the ring loop. But the above-ground sections suffer from nearly zero airflow, so unless it's late-fall to early-spring, you bake. Do Swedes know how to walk in crowds? Danes just don't. Walking down Stroget, people just walk into you, stop in front of you suddenly, etc. I mean it's a nice place but some stuff stands out.
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Sep 25, 2018 17:05
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Mata posted:Stockholm could really benefit from stealing Copenhagens bikepaths and christiania. A common comment is that Christiania really isn't what people imagine it is, any more. Gi' mig Danmark tilbage, etc.
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Sep 25, 2018 17:16
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As someone who moved to DK from Canada, all I know about tax rates is that after a 33% raise moving here (in absolute salary terms) I make about 7% less after taxes. I'm fine with that. The Danes who move to Malmø to pay less for expensive cars just strike me as crazy. If you stay there and have kids, they will go to Swedish schools, and the idea of their kids being/speaking Swedish just drives Danish parents craaaaaaaaaazy, based on several conversations with people here.
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Sep 26, 2018 06:29
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zokie posted:That's not how marginal taxes work, but I do know that Denmark is a huge cluster gently caress with taxes. Aren't they making another new revenue service? I made more after tax in Canada than in Denmark, even after getting 33% more in salary in DK. I know full well how marginal tax rates work, thanks. DK just has a much higher top bracket rate. Plus cost-of-living in DK is higher across the board, plus MOMS. I am not complaining, I pay my taxes in the hope some goes to help those in need. I have more than enough. Do you need me to post my skattekort or was that clear enough? 
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Sep 26, 2018 07:34
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WTF happened in Kastrup on Friday with the stolen car and Politiet shutting down the E20, DSB shutting the trains and all the Sjaelland ferries stopping?
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Katt posted:What's the next move? We gave you a chance, you blew it. 
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Nov 14, 2018 16:24
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lilljonas posted:Let's go out-law pariah state and invade Denmark over the Bälts this winter, it'll be awesome. Sure, you'll all invade, drink one Elefant, and pass out.
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Nov 15, 2018 16:54
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So it looks like the new rule on A-kasse will go through in DK. Meaning you have to have lived in DK for 7 years in the last 8 to get daupenge. Any Dane (or EEA person like me) who went to school or lived abroad on sabbatår for 366 days or more in the last 8 years loses unemployment benefits on January 1, 2019. The burning desire of DF to gently caress over immigrants is spilling over onto Danes... Since I moved to DK in August 2017, I'll just drop out of my A-kasse till 2024, and pocket the 1000 kr a month.
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Nov 18, 2018 21:36
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SplitSoul posted:Well, I guess that's the plan, get people to ditch A-kasser. Danes who have lived abroad also get put on "integrationsydelse", but that's the EU's fault, because they won't let Denmark discriminate. Yeah and integrationsydelse is... poo poo compared to daupenge.
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Nov 19, 2018 05:36
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To be honest I can see the point in limiting it for newly arrived non-citizens like me, but my GF is a native Dane who spent 3 years in grad school studying in the US and Canada in her mid-30s, and got a job a year ago when we both moved here. She contributed to A-kasse before, and since returning, but the law means she is just as unable to get A-kasse as me. That part makes no sense, it's just they can't figure a way to legally discriminate, I guess?
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Nov 19, 2018 07:03
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Immigrant poor, to be precise. If you never leave Denmark, you aren't affected. Edit: I suppose if a young person takes a 13 month sabbatår, they get hosed too.
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Nov 19, 2018 08:27
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I should also be clear I came to Denmark as a dual-citizen Canadianon my UK passport at age 49, have a quite good job, inherited a support framework via my GF's family, work loves me, and I can run back to Canada if things get bad. I frequently criticize Denmark politics and society, and worry about seeming ungrateful or close-minded. My coworker is a SD memberin his kommune, and every time some national-level SD politician says something horrible I fwd it to him and his only defense is "the party at the kommune level is just totally disconnected from the national". He's a great guy, was in radical youth in the 80s, got arrested, and still believes, but he gave up defending the party at national level ages ago. He just works in his kommune to improve things. Adopted two Somali kids, youth worker, lay preacher, volunteers all over.
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Nov 19, 2018 08:43
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<makes strangled vomiting noises> What the gently caress, Denmark?
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Nov 19, 2018 22:30
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My Swedish is horrible, but isn't this rebate akin to how Denmark became Tesla's best market, with the reduction in the registration tax? There's a Tesla dealership near me in Kastrup now that looks deserted since they eliminated the break.
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I moved here thinking Denmark was nice, and I'm up to Danish module 4.2, I joined my housing association board, all with a goal of permanent residence in 4 years. Right now I'm so... disillusioned... by Danish politics, that I... I don't think I could in good faith take a citizenship oath to the Danish state. I loathe the government of the day, and doubt SD would really change much. I voted left in the municipal elections, but outside a few spots in KBH and maybe Århus, they don't exist. Danish politics seems *designed* to piss me off.
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