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sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Grand Fromage posted:

I was just going through blueprints, as one does, and one of the weirdest decisions in there is Voyager has a whole spare warp core that never gets mentioned or becomes a plot point.

It also has a giant shuttle docked on the bottom of the saucer that never gets mentioned even when they make a whole thing about needing a bigger shuttle.

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sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

jeeves posted:

That fukken empty Dyson sphere could have an entire series it seems like such a cool setting. Definitely makes me laugh with the episodic ending of like “okay we’ll drop a beacon off here cuz I guess it’s cool but hey we got diplomats to taxi around bye”

My favorite part of that episode has always been that Scotty crashed on the Dyson Sphere on his way to the colony where he was going to retire.

The thing is so far inside Federation space people are passing it on their way to an old folks home and it still wasn't discovered for another 75 years. What else are they missing?

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Shyrka posted:

So like, I haven't seen Discovery or anything but apparently it's a thing in the 30th century all the dilithium in the universe explodes and so no one has warp drive anymore? But isn't the dilithium just used to stabilise the matter/anti-matter reaction that powers most warp drives, and Romulans have perfectly good warp drives powered by artificial singularities?

Did that technology get forgotten when the Romulans were all killed in Picard?

The Romulan artificial singularity isn't just EU technobabble either its a major plot point that identifies Romulan ships in Face of the Enemy on TNG and Visionary on DS9.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
T-2: No fate, the future is what we make it.

T-3: JK, there is no avoiding fate, judgement day is inevitable.

T-3 sucks.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Paradoxish posted:

BoBW implies pretty heavily that he's been under pressure from above and below and just hiding it from people close to him. The only reason Picard hadn't been pushing him is because he didn't realize he was being offered a chance to move up. It's not a running theme because TNG didn't really do character development or ongoing arcs, but that and Tapestry's Pathetic Picard imply that Starfleet has a pretty standard "move up or you're a failure" military culture.

Riker is a command officer. If he was an engineer or scientist he could chill no problem but he is holding up other promotions by not moving on.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
As much as I like big sci-fi space battles, the battles in DS9 never really sat right with me. Regardless of numbers, Federation, and really all the alpha quadrant species ships had always been depeicted as big investemenst in resources and crew, the loss of any one being a big deal. These are capital ships in every sense of the term, with large crews that we care about. Now season five rolls around and they are blowing through a hundred plus in every battle.

Probably beyond the effects of the time but a better visual metaphor for the Dominion War would have been smaller numbers of alpha quadrant ships fighting off swarms of what we know are much smaller Jem'hedar fighters. The Federation makes a real investment in each crew member and vessel while the Dominon are willing to throw wave after wave of cannon fodder until they brute force the win; just tell one of the Vorta which planet you want and keep throwing fighters at it until you have it.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Senor Tron posted:

The Galaxy class is this over the top ambitious piece of art that the Federation puts out there to show off to the Galaxy. I will always love the whole families on board city in space thing for that reason. They were aspirational, showing off what Starfleet and the Federation wanted the future to be.

If not on screen, at least in design the Galaxy class really is like a proto GSV. A self contained microcosm of the Federation that's just as capable of being a major diplomatic mission, a deep space explorer, and long range force projection.

If only Discovery had leaned into that with modern special effects...

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Shyrka posted:

I vaguely remember the TNG Technical Manual mentioning anti-matter processing facilities built close to suns. I think the containment fields are fine for storage but the dilithium's needed for when anti-matter and matter meet so the reaction gets channelled safely?

Dilithium moderates the matter anti-matter reaction. The resulting plasma is channelled out to the warp field coils in the nascels which generate the warp field.

Magnetic containment is fine for storing the anti-matter but you need the technobabble of dilithium to control the reaction.

Most of the rest of the ship including the impulse drive is powered by fusion reactors.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

nine-gear crow posted:

It's one of those Un-Star Trek episodes, like Family or 11:59. Only instead of tackling PTSD and gentrification, it comes at blatant racism and police brutality head on and is absolutely incredible about it.

Examining contemporary issues through the fictional eye of what a better future could be is maybe the most Star Trek thing you can make.

Sad that that episode is nearly 25 years old and you could still make it today.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

thotsky posted:

more than tng, less than ds9?

TNG encounters of the week episodes with DS9 character development.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

sunday at work posted:

TNG encounters of the week episodes with DS9 character development over the run of the series

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
It's probably not a big category but Badda-Bing Badda-Bang is hard to beat for a last fun episode before we wrap things up.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Laterite posted:

Orville is perfectly pleasant TV comfort food and hits all the right spots as a TNG pastiche.

It's the TNG 2.0 the Berman era wanted to make but couldn't get right.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
The problem with separating the saucer is that by the time you need to you're already in a bad spot to do it. And if you are going to do it preemptively on a regular basis it would make morse sense to just send out several ships in different rolls on the mission.

It really comes down to trying to tell different kinds of stories about the same ship.

The Galaxy Class is a self contained city designed to operate for years at at time, unsupported, beyond the bounds of known space.

The Enterprise D is the flag ship of Star Fleet and regularly sent on diplomatic missions and to potentially hostile situations well within the borders of the Federation.

In either situation it should probably be running with escorts most of the time

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Tighclops posted:

They did.


We will never see anything like TMP again. Not unless the economy is on the verge of total and complete collapse and they have literally mined everything else for nostalgia.

The key to beating V'ger 2.0 will be converting the main deflector dish into a giant sub woofer and blasting dub step through sub-space.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
There was that one Q on Voyager who realized he had done everything, literally everything, and decided to try death.

At some point you've experienced the entire life of the universe as every atom to ever be and at that point there is really only one question left.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
Voyager would have been a great series to make starting a few years ago both in that the plot lends itself to serialization and that the franchise needed 15 years off the air before a new series.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Sir Lemming posted:

I've said it before, but Dax was always just a little too high-concept for a mainstream '90s show and probably was never going to totally work; it's amazing she worked as well as she did. Back then, if you didn't have the whole main cast of characters set in stone by the end of the premiere it was like, blasphemy or something. That's one thing they would've had more freedom to explore in a more modern "prestige" show. (But it probably also would've fallen into a lot of negative tendencies.)

A modern prestige Star Trek show about a joined Trill that works as a trouble shooter for Starfleet and gets sent to all the wierdest situations in the Galaxy would be a cool idea but you could still run into the problem of all the interesting things about the Trill being thier past lives and not the character on screen each episode. And if you are going to have your protagonist be able to draw on a bunch of different expericnes then just have a crew with varied backgrounds.

sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."

Grand Fromage posted:

Hmm. I'll allow it.

E: To expand, the Doctor and Seven benefited from also having a lot of time together and playing off each other so well. Tuvok was good, but a lot of the time he was just kinda there. I suspect Seven got more focus episodes than Tuvok did even though he was on the show from day one. And a lot of the Doctor-centered episodes are among the best of the show overall.

They wrote good episodes for the Doctor and Seven. Episodes that actually developed the characters and consisted of more than just solving problems by reeling off technobabble.

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sunday at work
Apr 6, 2011

"Man is the animal that thinks something is wrong."
They should have played Tuvok off Paris and Kim off (a better) Nelix.

Rigid security officer and carefree ex-con who runs the betting pool. Green ensign and explorer who has seen it all but is still light hearted.

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