Pakled posted:

PenguinKnight posted:

the guy that's captured data in "The Most Toys" is shatnering like a motherfucker


this is some a+ scenery chewing

also, season 3 of TNG is the season of shameful holodeck usage, with Barclay's larping and data's ship boning

Apple Jax posted:

I've got a 1/2 day at work tomorrow and am basically going straight there after work. I wanna wear one of my trek uniforms to the con but that means leaving work with it on and man I do not have the guts for that. It would be the day I get stuck in the elevator with the CEO for sure.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Barclay has a soul because he was able to remember everything during transport, even though it's been established multiple times that the transporter breaks you down molecule by molecule and turns you into energy.

God what a poo poo episode that was.

Baronjutter posted:

This is why everyone in the future makes detailed personal logs several times a day.

Powered Descent posted:

2x08, The Changeling. (No, it's not an early appearance of Odo's people.) It's actually a really good episode, but yeah, the part with Uhura's memory is kind of hosed up.

The_Doctor posted:

Bryan Fuller has said that Balance of Terror is 'a touchstone' for Discovery. Romulan War confirmed?

http://twitter.com/BryanFuller/status/774062077811929090

Astroman posted:

To be fair, this is what a lot of the fan films were doing, and they showed you could pull off a period accurate show to TOS with the same sets, costumes, lighting, props, sound effects, music, and visual effects on a shoestring budget thanks to modern consumer technology. It would be cheap as hell to do a "modern" pre-TOS show that was authentic, though it would tank in the ratings because nobody would watch it besides King Nerds (of which I am one).

That said, the $5M per episode figure for Enterprise being thrown around is probably not equal to what you could do on today's visual effects budgets. They've come a long way and are a lot cheaper. You could probably make Enterprise today for a lot less. Also if they don't get a big name like Bakula, they will save somewhat on actor salaries.

T.C. posted:

I really like Season One of The Next Generation. It almost a different show from all the rest of the modern Star Trek shows, and I think it's a show I might have preferred watching.

It's the only season of modern Star Trek that seems to try and feel like the original series. Sure, part of that is reused scripts, but I think a lot of it is the energy and approach to the show. After season two or so, you don't see as much of that connection. The slightly too on the nose morality plays, the winking at the camera on occassion, the corny conceptually interesting planets of the week...

The characters are a little confused, but they're also more vibrant.

Crusher barely has a personality in some of the later seasons. She has a bit too much 'doctor mom' going on in the first season, but she also is clearly being used as a McCoy analogue. She's morally outraged in private a few times with Picard, she has really strong opinions and she uses her autonomous authority more than she seems to later.

Beard Riker is a more mature person, but I really like season one Riker. He's over the top, but it's enjoyable. He's clearly a man that takes his job seriously, but is a bit of a trouble maker. He's still pretty good later, and he gets better at holding a sense of authority, but he also gets kind of grumpy.

Geordi ended up being great as Chief Engineer, but they lost something with it. Geordi was really neat as the inexperienced command officer. The two times he was in command both resulted in great scenes.

I like early pinnochio Data. I like the angle that he is a child and doesn't understand humanity, rather than what he became. Later he was more of a tragic figure fighting for something he could never achieve. I really enjoyed how into things he got in The Big Goodbye.

The whole thing is played with more of a sense of wonder, if that makes sense. The universe feels wild and open. The acting was more theatrical. The lighting wasn't as boringly bright and flat as it would later become.

And really, the music. The music made such a difference. It didn't completely go away after season one, but season one was the only one that was really scored like the original series. I think the scoring also gave them cover for some of the over-acting that I kind of enjoy. You can get away with chewing some scenery when you've got a dramatic musical theme playing over top.

Lord Hydronium posted:

On the subject of stock Trek plots, DS9 really liked "everyone plays out of character" episodes, didn't they. There's "alien influence causes weird personality shifts" (Dramatis Personae), "evil/alternate versions of the main characters" (all the Mirror Universe episodes), and episodes where they just play entirely different characters (Our Man Bashir, Far Beyond the Stars). I suppose you could also count Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang with the characters themselves intentionally acting as different people.

e: That's not even to mention all the individual characters getting possessed by aliens, Pah-Wraiths, or being replaced by Changelings. Or Prophets appearing as other characters.

Gammatron 64 posted:

We did get Mass Effect, even though it was a video game. I liked Mass Effect because it was a hell of a lot like Star Wars and Star Trek.

MikeJF posted:

Or at the very least if they use the holodeck use it realistically and have them use holosims where they fling themselves out of an aeroplane and have a mid-air shooting fight before surfing a crocodile to safety

Cojawfee posted:

How would you tax popularity? You have to publicly say you like someone less popular once a month or something?

Edit: You have to lose some of your popularity by endorsing something you or your fans disagree with. At higher popularity tax rates, you have to say "Maybe the Romulans had some good ideas?"

Finster Dexter posted:

I think TNG should be given some credit when Geordi rejected being healed of blindness when Riker got Q powers. Of course, Braga and Berman poo poo all over that in the movies...

After The War posted:

They did this from time to time. Remember the tree ensign on DS9 that everyone was excited was budding?

The_Doctor posted:

Apologies for tumblr content, but I thought this was hilarious.

http://images.cybersomnia.com/tumblr_startrekheadcannon.png

thexerox123 posted:

"Join the Collective! You will never be lonely again, and you get a free ocular implant!"

Work as a drone by day, escape to Unimatrix Zero at night! It can't be much worse than working a 9-5!

They're supposed to be able to adapt to anything... I think this would be a sensible adaptation after all of their encounters with humans. They take a page out of the Federation's playbook, basically.

WeAreTheRomans posted:

*ahem* FTFY

anyway time to just keep talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt (it was really quite hypnotic)

The_Doctor posted:

My reasoning is that that's what they were doing in the holosuites anyway. They wore the costumes because that's their joint fetish. Keiko just turned a blind eye because it kept Miles happy/out of her hair, and she's not into dressing up like a Viking wench.

~*~enlightened 24th century values~*~

Arglebargle III posted:

Call me naive but I think it's possible for two men to have a platonic friendship.

Marshal Radisic posted:

It looks more like the uniform he had during the first two seasons. After the first mirror universe episode, Auberjonois liked the costume he had, so the costuming people redesigned his regular uniform to fit more like that one.

Angry Salami posted:

Prosperity Gospel

MikeJF posted:

Can't really beat the TUC bridge for sheer class.

Although in terms of layout (certainly not in terms of colour, ugh) I always really liked the Prometheus bridge. Which I assume was a modified TUC bridge.

Cojawfee posted:

If you got time to lean, you got time to clean.

QuantaStarFire posted:

Didn't Terry Farrel also have issues with being outside and poo poo? Like, actual health reasons? I've heard it mentioned, but never really heard any details regarding it.

MikeJF posted:

Yeah. For Berman's credit, he was a great money-man and great at running interference. If he'd kept to that, he would've been ideal. Issue was, he had a vision.

Drink-Mix Man posted:

Roddenberry as gently caress

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

All Good Things isn't a two-parter, it's just a double-length episode, which is probably a huge part of why it works better than most of the two-parters.

MisterBibs posted:

Related, does anyone listen to Mission Log? For some reason I've become increasingly bored of them, which is weird since they are just getting into the meat of TNG that I like.

Met posted:

I think they're respectful of Gene but not shy about his faults in storytelling. They're financed by Rod Roddenberry and I always keep that in mind but I don't think that stops them from criticizing Gene.

Trickjaw posted:

I haven't seen the book, but earlier books have quotes and stuff. All the production staff loved her, and I'm sure Gene tried to.. get to know her better

Wikipedia Brown posted:

Clickhole has posted "An Oral History of Star Trek." Pretty informative.

http://www.clickhole.com/article/oral-history-star-trek-5174

MisterBibs posted:

Has being on Trek really been that great a gig? I've always assumed that it's kinda a blessing and a curse in that if you're not exceedingly good at avoiding being typecast as whatever you did on the show, you're screwed.