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theflyingorc posted:If anyone cares, 538 no longer shows a narrow lead for Trump in any of their polls, and in Polls Plus and Now he's showing >60% for Hillary. It's still a bounce, so things are going to normalize again over the next few weeks. But if Hillary can maintain positive visibility while Trump keeps screaming at war widows and declaring war on Constantinople, the gap should hold.
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FactsAreUseless posted:This won't stick, everyone call tell it's just Istanbull. That's nobody's business but the Turks'.
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Aug 1, 2016 14:28
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The Post got into a bit of a sticky wicket a couple years ago when one of its photographers stood by and snapped photos of someone about to get struck by a passing subway train. It doesn't really "do" ethics.
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Aug 1, 2016 14:32
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FilthyImp posted:My wish is that Trump insults a child this cycle. I don't care how, I just want him to do it. Someone actually got a non-cursed monkey's paw, who'd have thunk it.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:15
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A baby cries during a Kaine rally, he opens up his bag of wonders and withdraws a bottle of warm milk and a clean nappie.
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Aug 2, 2016 17:24
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How has all of this happened in 24 loving hours He mocked a baby, dissed a prime swing state, disparaged a deceased veteran's family AGAIN, and his campaign staff are playing Russian Roulette with ever-more chambers filled 24 hours
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Aug 3, 2016 03:22
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:is this the thread to talk about how loving good Hillary is at owning the poo poo out of Trump? Trump and the GOP have spent months if not years swinging wild haymakers at Hillary and then she casually pokes Trump in a single spot just below his collarbone and saunters away as blood erupts from his nose and mouth.
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Aug 3, 2016 04:59
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Eifert Posting posted:Man, though, can you imagine how fractured the Democrats would be if the shoe was on the other foot? If even the lockstep Republican party is ready to bail... The "lockstep Republican party" image has all but disappeared over the last several years. The Tea Party is too irrational and uncompromising for the GOP to rally over most issues anymore. Meanwhile the Dems got considerably more cohesive due to the loss of the Blue Dog coalition and Nancy Pelosi meaningfully crushing walnuts between her two front knuckles whenever a vote comes up.
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Aug 3, 2016 05:01
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Tibeerius posted:I love how Trump has turned the usual "VP = attack dog" conventional wisdom upside-down. Every quote I see from Pence these days is covering for his running mate. Meanwhile Tim Kaine chuckles while reading the Gazette by a crackling fire, his fuzzy slippers on full display.
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Aug 3, 2016 18:40
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/LadyBugAssassin/status/760893443887333377 If Ivanka ever decided to run she might actually be pretty tough competition, though she'd have to keep her dad chained up in a gilded basement somewhere with no wi-fi.
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Aug 3, 2016 18:57
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Seeric posted:He was asking them to give him credit for predicting that Brexit would happen despite the polls saying that there wasn't a chance of it going through. This was after he was talking about media bias and polls being wrong in general so it's basically a way for him to tell his followed not to worry about what the polls are saying about the current election. All things considered, reinforcing the message of '"polls don't matter" while in his position seems fairly reasonable. Trump and Hillary seem to be adopting opposite strategies on the campaign trail. Trump dominates and subordinates everyone around him and pushes his face front and center at every big media event, responding to every criticism and fielding every question. Hillary on the other hand is just the central node in a wide network of other politicians who keep stumping for her and sniping at her opponents while she maintains the "likable, slightly daffy granny" image at smaller gatherings and keeps pushing wonkish policy speeches when necessary. So far I'd say Hillary's got the better idea.
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Aug 3, 2016 21:50
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emdash posted:If I had to put a bet on the defining, over-arching quote of Trump's campaign--the one you'd put at the beginning of a book to set the tone--it would be "All I did was respond. And I will always respond." He said that in reference to the Khan thing, but it appears to be true of literally anything anyone says about him in public or private and regardless of context. Meanwhile, one of the keys to presidential campaigning since god knows when is NOT responding on unwinnable issues I noticed this a few weeks ago, yeah. Trump is always on defense. He has no coherent ideas regarding policy or anything else, so he just waits for people to snipe at him and then spends all his airtime firing back. That worked well in the Republican primary, where his opponents were mostly a gaggle of stuffed suits too timid and too hamstrung by their constituencies to really dig at him, but now he's being exposed to criticism from all different races and classes of people from all over the country and he's losing his nerve trying to keep on top of it all. He's not even able to really get started on Hillary because she's got too many surrogates calling him out and compelling him to waste time on them instead.
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Aug 4, 2016 14:11
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Zophar posted:I still feel that it was less of a bump and more of a normalizing back to June numbers. The last week hasn't really told voters that much we didn't already know and believe about either candidate. The Dems pretty much snatched patriotism and faith messaging back from the Republican party after the latter had been guarding it tooth and claw, and then kept to the high-road as the GOP nominee took an extended holiday in the seething depths of his apoplectic imagination. It was a short burst of activity and who knows how much of it will stick, but I do think it changed the fundamental dynamics of the race somewhat.
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Aug 4, 2016 16:36
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zoux posted:Actually he's been whining that they are on the same night as football games and people are wondering if he's already laying the groundwork for pulling out of them. He's doing both. He is very mysterious.
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Aug 4, 2016 16:47
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If Trump keeps this up much longer he's going to find out that the media loves a death watch almost as much as a horse race.
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Aug 4, 2016 22:21
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Mel Mudkiper posted:lol apparently that dude just saw the link in the Wikileaks thread and went "Oh boy cannot wait to show this to D&D and own them super hard" That thread is a bunch of jokesters playing along with a handful of legitimate paranoid schizophrenics.
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Aug 5, 2016 01:34
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Mr Interweb posted:While I'm very glad that Trump is getting trashed by Hillary in the polls this week, Trump was actually leading her a week ago. Here's my question: what made those people who supported Trump no more than a few DAYS ago, suddenly change their minds? I mean yeah, yeah Trump said a whole bunch of noxious poo poo. So what? He's been spewing garbage like that ever since he started running (and for, you know, the the past 40 years). "I know Trump said he hated muslins, but I never thought he'd actually attack one!" The DNC pretty much robbed the Republican party of their pro-patriotism, pro-faith messaging (and twisted it so that it no longer depended upon hating minorities), and not 24 hours later Trump began spitting venom at everyone he could find, only to settle on a couple of grieving parents who a) then shot back, and b) kept their messaging clean, while c) pushing Trump to ever-higher levels of spite. You can only punch so far down before all but the most hateful of onlookers will go "whoa, steady on, that's a little much," and Trump, a (probable) billionaire who's in the running for the one of the most powerful political positions on Earth, trying to make nemeses out of a couple of civilians - and by immediately going after the wife, no less - left a bad taste in people's mouths. And that only got worse because Trump couldn't shut the gently caress up about it. That inciting incident seems to have caused a lot of people in the media and elsewhere to view Trump's campaign with a more critical eye, at least for the moment, and as we've all seen, the man doesn't do well with criticism. You've got the Democrats sticking firmly to the high road and the Republicans playing cowed, gutless lackeys to the first-act villain in a morality play about the nature of hubris.
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Aug 5, 2016 13:11
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Yinlock posted:For some reason the biggest stand-out to me was "does he seriously have a casino named The Trump Taj Mahal". That's how jaded I've become. HOW DOES HE THINK THIS WILL WORK I mean there's shortsighted and then there is specifically and clearly poo poo-talking every key swing state you visit. The motherfucker is the Mozart of self-sabotage.
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Aug 5, 2016 21:35
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Skeesix posted:This is actually a thing I'm worried about : Al Gore got hammered for rolling his eyes at GWB's dumb answers. I'm sure there will be a few eyerolls that Hillary won't be able to restrain. Trump isn't GWB. Hillary would still catch flak for it but at that point she's probably get praised in equal measure.
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Aug 5, 2016 22:32
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Aug 8, 2016 20:42
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In my experience Republican voters tend to take voting a lot more seriously because it's tied up in their appropriated patriotic messaging ("vote, it's your civic duty," etc), but since Trump is running on a platform of "everything is broken and nothing matters" then it might be spreading apathy to a higher degree than usual.
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Aug 10, 2016 20:34
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Yvonmukluk posted:I dunno Donald, Prester Jane figured you out to a tee. Maybe the most confusing thing about this election are people who still somehow think Donald Trump willingly reads anything.
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Aug 12, 2016 13:27
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DarkstarIV posted:So are you all ready for a (possible) Clinton Foundation probe? It's the Daily Caller so take it with a grain of salt, since its Fox News 2.0: This story dropped 12 hours ago and if it was legit it would've been confirmed by something other than the gossip rags by now.
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Aug 12, 2016 17:14
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Filthy Hans posted:Are there any decent media publishers actually saying this? It seems like those headlines are coming from right-leaning publications that are citing anonymous law enforcement agents rather than basing the claims on anything concrete. Interestingly there are competing claims that there is no investigation because the DOJ wouldn't allow the FBI to carry one out, also without any tangible proof I could find with some lazy Googling. I was interested in the story the first I heard of it and yeah, it's still just The Daily Caller and a bunch of alt-news sites quoting The Daily Caller. Bharara doesn't gently caress around, if his name actually did arise in connection to a Clinton investigation then every reporter in earshot would seize the opportunity with their teeth if need be.
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Aug 12, 2016 19:13
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ZobarStyl posted:Don't fret, we'll have all of Sept thru Oct 15 for random people to wander in and claim the worst equipped campaign in the history of politics is going to turn it all around cause 'BREXIT happened guys' If this Russia thing gains legs I think Assange is going to be out of the picture as far as the election goes. The "Wikileaks is a Russian mouthpiece" thing was a wild haymaker thrown by the Democrats in an attempt to deflect the damage of the DNC leaks, but between Trump's big fat loving mouth and Manafort's publicized pro-Russian ties, any future bombshells are going to be duds.
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Aug 15, 2016 04:05
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OddObserver posted:Uhm, that wikileaks was a Russian mouthpiece was very obvious way before the whole DNC thing happened. I know, but the US's usual partisan discourse would have made the accusation a non-starter if it weren't for Trump loudly and repeatedly blowing kisses to Putin and Manafort's own Russian ties. Now it's going to be part of any conversation about Wikileaks to the point where it might just drown out any controversy caused by whatever else they try to dig up.
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Aug 15, 2016 04:11
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UV_Catastrophe posted:How bad could this Manafort stuff end up being for Trump? If it gains legs it'll probably hurt his already laughable foreign policy stances and possibly depress turnout with people old enough to remember the Cold War, a.k.a. his biggest demographic.
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Aug 15, 2016 05:26
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Knight of Arboria posted:https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/765189229152464897 Mm, I love the smell of desperation in the morning.
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Aug 15, 2016 15:29
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1337JiveTurkey posted:It's probably more to remind older Millenials and younger Gen X that a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for Mom. Hillary Clinton is at least two personality disorders and a pint of vodka short of that for me.
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Aug 17, 2016 17:58
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paranoid randroid posted:the central problem with Clinton as a candidate is that there is essentially nothing she can do to dispel the suspicion that surrounds her. she gets cleared of criminal wrongdoing by the FBI? well thats just further proof of her nefarious nature. she closes down the Clinton Foundation to avoid even the appearance of impropriety? well, who knows what shes trying to hide! Yeah, there's this bizarre dichotomy in the minds of a certain type of voter that automatically dismisses all the good things around Clinton as lies, and all the bad things around Trump as also lies. I mean, if you want to view candidates as the polar opposite of what your eyes and ears are telling you that's fine, nothing wrong with a little skepticism, but I sometimes wonder why the same people don't just see Barack Obama as a nice young Kansas-raised boy named Chet Studebaker with tousled blond hair and leftover muscle from his football quarterback days.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:31
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I thought gfsincere's name sounded familiar and then remembered he was the lunatic full-throatedly arguing for regular IQ citizenship tests and RaHoWa a few months back. Fortunately for all of us, one schizophrenic computer janitor with a chip on his shoulder does not a racial community make.
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Aug 22, 2016 18:52
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emdash posted:PEC's Clinton November win probabilities have moved to 94%/96% I don't know if Trump's recent staff shakeup and message pivot's being reflected in any of the polls yet, but right now it seems like he's been locked into the "incorrigible fuckup" narrative. He's in a box now where everything he does will be seen as wrong regardless of practice or intent. Which is the same box Hillary's been in for decades, so I can appreciate the irony.
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Aug 24, 2016 16:53
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Mr Interweb posted:The most irritating thing about this stupid "pay to play" scandal with the Clinton Foundation is that nobody's told me how Trump would be any different. Does anyone NOT expect Trump to give his buddies favors and positions of power? gently caress, isn't nepotism practically a proud part of the Republican platform? Most Trump supporters who aren't all-in on the racism angle view "but Trump does it too!" as a needless smokescreen and want to get him elected because they think he'll be such an incompetent maverick that he'll enact a sea change in the American political landscape. These people are idiots, and often assholes, but in a different way than the other assholes and idiots.
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Aug 24, 2016 19:47
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Today it is all of our responsibility to shitpost the #AltRightMeans hashtag on twitter, and to amplify those voices on twitter that use that hashtag to take a big steaming poo poo on the evil that is the alt-right. If you've got a twitter feed, do your part! And if you don't have a twitter feed, good for you! You are walking the righteous path in life.
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