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I'm quite certain that Ciampa is going to turn on Gargano very soon. Gargano beat him in the CWC after Gargano showed compassion for his buddy, Gargano lost the match for them at Takeover, and NXT has a spot opening for a new rampaging violent heel now that Joe is likely getting the call up.

I think that the tag name that Ciampa chose is even subtle foreshadowing so that he can say, "Do it yourself, not ourselves" because relying on another person didn't work out for him.

If NXT was truly dedicated to pro wrestling, the angle will be started at Johnny's wedding (real or fake).

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Good main event tonight. Authors of Pain are better than I expected because they actually are imposing and can move in the ring. Best TM61 has looked so far as well imo. That tope from Shane Thorn was absolutely insane.

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They do a lot of luring the ref which is a dirty tactic though not outright cheating.

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Vince really doesn't like it when you don't return fire in a domestic violence situation. Makes you look weak!

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Spermgod posted:

Sombra flopped as babyface in CMLL too. He's just not very good at it and the horrible horrible gear (for a babyface) doesn't help. I also wish they'd give him a name that isn't two last names but I guess it's too late now.

They could always drop Andrade and just have him be "Cien" Almas which actually makes a nice sounding name. With all the new signings coming soon, I think the best option to pull him out of the tailspin is to turn him into an arrogant, aloof dick.

WWE has their own Bullet Club. Might as well get their own Los Ingobernables.

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dordreff posted:

Liv Morgan's ok but that finisher sucked. What was it even supposed to be?

It looked like a spinkick but Aaliyah stepped forward and it became a devastating do-si-do.

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Full Sail chanting, "You deserve it" like Nakamura was some underappreciated talent who clawed his way up to the top of WWE developmental was shameful.

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The pop for Booby Roode in Toronto is going to be, dare I say, GLORIOUS

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pressedbunny posted:

Carmella simply should not have been moved on, and though Alexa and Nia are both doing fine on SD/Raw, another month or two in NXT wouldn't have harmed either of them.

Essentially NXT's womens' division has been brought back to where it started, when Paige was wrecking everyone and the likes of Sasha and Bayley had no character and were either jobbing out or playing underling to Summer Rae. It took a few months (and Paige getting called up) for the division to get good, and it'll take a few months to recover again this time.

I agree about Nia and Carmella, but Alexa's match with Bayley showed that she was basically at the best she could be in NXT. Moving her up made her step up big time in a newly formed division and she's flourished as a top heel.

Peyton Royce needs to return and save the NXT women's division.

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Phenix Rising posted:

Tournament also looks like another quick way to give DIY a win over The Revival without the titles on the line.

What was the final last year? For the life of me I can't remember who Joe and Balor beat now, only being disappointed at the quarter final losses. Was it Rhino and someone?

Rhyno and Corbin. It's easy to remember the Dusty as the AA and Revival coming out party, but it also gave us DIY and Baron Corbin finally coming into his own with the help of Rhyno. So much accomplished with one tournament.

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Basic Chunnel posted:

Is that a porn site? Didn't Rollins do similar stuff in his indie days?

Rollins did some vaguely sensual wrestling. Based on the quick googling I just did, AR Fox straight up hosed on camera. I can't see WWE being down employing someone with a past in hardcore porn, especially after Val Venis didn't live up to potential.

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dordreff posted:

So is Patrick Clarke's gimmick that he's desperately searching for a gimmick?

e: lol Dan Matha looks loving terrified on his way to the ring

I had the same thought about Patrick and that might actually be a fun deal. It helps that his time on Tough Enough was spent trying to say exactly what people wanted to hear, so he's always been a guy in search of an identity.

Matha getting completely chumped made all of the hype videos worth it, especially because Joe didn't sneak attack him. Matha had all the chance in the world to defend himself and got headbutted into local enhancement talent territory.

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Sanity's entrance is pretty cool, but I didn't find the tag team intimidating in anyway. Sawyer Fulton is huge but he's halfway between tall buff guy and overall large fat guy, so he just looks soft. Nikki Cross as an out of control wild woman should be fun and I liked that everyone treated her as the most dangerous of the team.

Buddy Murphy better a singles push going. Dude deserves so much better and I was hoping he'd just destroy Blake.

The brawl at the end was awesome. I love a good pull-apart and both guys just slowly destroying all of security made ruled.

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I don't hate Sanity but Tommy End's aesthetic is so far beyond pretty much everyone in wrestling that it will be a shame to see him out with the Mad Max cosplayers.

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Sanity's entrance is rad and three of the four of them look cool in their full gear (Fulton will never not look incredibly stupid). So long as they have an objective and tone down the hammy acting a bit, I think they will be fine despite the bad stable name.

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Tonight featured a lot of poor people having their lives wrecked. Tommaso Ciampa seemed offended by the very existence of Ho Ho Lun. Peyton destroyed Liv with that kick. And Asuka might have suplexed Thea Trinidad's soul out of her body.

I loved it all.

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I think that part of it is how Roddy ended his time on the indies. He was mostly treading water in ROH and PWG is a niche product without huge distribution. So he didn't come in with the buzz of all the NJPW guys or the decade of dreaming behind Joe in WWE. We also just saw a huge influx of names with the Cruiserweight Classic so nothing is shocking.

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That's what happens when you are used to aiming for normal person heads and then you wrestle the tiniest man.

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projecthalaxy posted:

I was only like 30 minutes late! But yeah it's not great.

Also I gotta say I like the idea of Sanity more than I like Sanity, man. Like I love their entrance and their whole thing but when that danged old bell rings it's a couple of doughy dudes doing moves. Like I don't know what I want them to do, I guess just runins?

That's how I feel. If the tag team was a couple of jacked dudes (or even just Wolfe and anyone but Fulton), they'd be much more acceptable. Eric Young isn't bad as a weirdo leader and Nikki Cross is great as the rabid pug.

Pretty decent episode tonight. I like that the Dusty Classic is a tournament that goes on tour and there are a bunch of stories woven into the brackets.

Ironic that the best match of TM61's run so far was a singles match. Wish Roddy didn't lose his second match but Nakamura's boot sort of made that decision for NXT.

I think the Revival dropping out would have been better placed after the AoP match because then they get to deny DIY the match and also look like cowards for avoiding AoP in the brackets.

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Cedric Alexander has the best CW treatment right now. He gets to appear on Raw for wider exposure but he also has a storyline on NXT so he gets to be on a competently made wrestling show as well.

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Sanguinia posted:

Roode v Dillenger, Nakamura v Joe 2, Asuka v James, Tag Classic Finals... yeah.

Basic Logic would indicate that we're going to get Revival vs DIY 3 for the tag straps. We might also get some kind of resolution for the Liv v Aussie Mean Girls feud? Probably a tag match with Liv pairing with Ember Moon.

I mean, they have a lot of pieces to play with. Sanity, Aries, Roddy and Almas are all in play. If they have a sweet debut in the wings, now would be a good time to do it by matching up against one of them. Preferably Aries, the others probably can't afford a high-profile loss since they're just starting to get heel momentum.

I don't read spoilers so I wouldn't know if Cedric Alexander and "Cien" Almas resolved things at a taping but that match could tear the house down as an opener.

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As someone who fondly remember High Voltage, I'm so down for more WCW Saturday Night teams.

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rovert posted:

Noah's latest name is "Kona Reeves": https://twitter.com/kekoawwe

Thank god. Potjes was a terrible last name for a wrestler.

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Various thoughts:

No Way Jose is the best prospect in NXT.

Joe/Dillinger was really good and I enjoy Joe talking poo poo while murdering someone.

Lita wasn't a bad commentator on Heat so maybe she'll be better calling a tourney than pretending to care about a preshow.

The Authors of Pain should probably never do that powerbomb spot again because it's sort of a blind throw for the second one and that fencing response is horrifying.

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I think my favorite part of this is Naomi raising her head at the end like "what the gently caress are you doing"

My favorite part is that Naomi starts in the correct position for the legdrop to actually be a pin. Cameron made the decision to roll her over.

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Los Ingobernables taking over another promotion would be cool. Bullet Club showed up in three iterations already.

Also, I don't think we need to spoil the Japan title match results since the official NXT Instagram posted pictures.

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That main event felt way clipped with the commercial break and suddenly both guys being so worn out. Definitely the weakest of their three matches. At least they are getting the rematches out of the way and setting up a new contender.

Damo being in Sanity is whatever but I swear to Satan, if they put Tommy End in that dead end of a stable, they are just burning money.

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After Tamina and Nia Jax, I'm stoked to have a tiny Polynesian woman to root for instead of a hoss. Go Evie!

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I love that Ho Ho's counterpart is Nikki Cross. She'd tear that inspirational little man apart.

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Super No Vacancy posted:

the 10 chant is stupid af

Spoken like a true 3

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Basic Chunnel posted:

Tye works as a corny conceited heel but his aw-shucks babyface routine isn't quite as good. I did like him slapping Joe, though. Good old Joe-slappin' Tye

They've done an excellent job pivoting the arrogance of calling himself a perfect 10 to the confidence of a plucky underdog who knows he's good and feeds off of the crowd.

NXT has stagnated with storytelling this year, but Dillinger is a big exception to that.

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Great match but I wish we got Roddy doing three straight superplexes like he loves doing in multiman matches.

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Benne posted:

I've always been lukewarm on Blake and Murphy (the only time they were interesting was when they had Alexa as a mouthpiece), but what does splitting them up accomplish, exactly? So now the men's singles division can have two charisma vacuums instead of the tag division having one?

Buddy Murphy owns and now he is free of dead weight. I wish NXT would find a way to get him back on TV and doing stuff.

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It's on the official NXT Instagram but I'll spoiler tag it to be safe.

Hero showed up but he's still using loving Kassius Ohno as his name if the hashtag is to be believed

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IcePhoenix posted:

he had the kassius ohno titantron and also I don't know why people are being such big babies about it

I just think it's a really bad name and a relic of a bygone era where notoriety outside of WWE was completely discounted. It's not something I will lose sleep over but I t feels weird in modern NXT to not use the name of arguably the most popular wrestler in the American indie scene.

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The next Takeover theme is a Ghost song which is fitting because they are two things that were once mind-blowingly awesome and have struggled to continue the magic as time goes on.

Also, Aleister Black better debut.

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Or I'll be disappointed that they failed to debut the satanist wrestler on the show where the theme is provided by the satanist band.

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RealFoxy posted:

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/819363416812843008

This is supposed to be serious but I can't stop laughing at Drake Younger chasing after Asuka like he's trying to catch a child having a tantrum. The part that gets me is every time she turns back while running and shouts "NO!" at Drake

MEEGAN, COME BACK

Also, Revival/DIY was real good and had some rad callbacks to their first two matches.

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achillesforever6 posted:

I've been thinking about it and really what you can do to make Sanity good is have them kick Eric Young as leader, install Tommy End as the new leader, use his theme as their theme song, and be a faction of tweeners that go after all the belts.

Keep him away from those silly cosplayers.

Aleister Black needs to debut alone and as an unstoppable satanic killing machine. My hope is that he acknowledges Tommy End's failing at the UK tourney and the only way to make up for his failure is to go even more evil.

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Grozz Nuy posted:

HHH is NWOBHM though, not black metal. In other words, he's old.

I think corpse paint Tommy is an inevitability in WWE but I dunno how much further it'll go than that.

If you don't think that HHH would want somebody coming out dressed as a living Angel Witch shirt, I don't know what to tell you.

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