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BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970



rip 2 elon

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graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts
im gonna explode this thread

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

pls no, i love elon

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

remember the hyperloop? remember solar city? e lon is doing so musk

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

Elon loving Musk.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

GameCube posted:

Elon loving Musk.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

they blew up facebook's first satellite

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Uber, but in space, and everything is on fire and in bits.

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

they totally hosed up the insurance, too

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

elon's having a very bad day

FMguru posted:

tick-tick-tick-BOOM.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BgJEXQkjNQ

skip to 1:09


also

quote:

Two pillars of Elon Musk’s empire are facing financial crunches as the entrepreneur seeks to combine the two companies through a controversial acquisition.

Tesla Motors Inc., which makes electric cars, disclosed in a securities filing Wednesday that it has to pay $422 million to its bondholders in the third quarter, and that it will raise additional money by the end of the year. The purpose of the additional capital, among other things, is to support its proposed merger with home-solar company SolarCity Corp. Mr. Musk is the chairman of both companies.

The filing also revealed that in recent weeks, 15 institutional investors passed on either acquiring SolarCity or injecting equity into it. The company is having difficulty tapping the public markets amid the proposed merger and is facing a liquidity squeeze, the filing indicated. SolarCity’s cash declined to $146 million on June 30, from $421 million a year earlier, the company has reported.

Mr. Musk ignited controversy in June when he proposed combining the two companies. Detractors characterized the proposal as a bailout for SolarCity. Mr. Musk said the deal will save money and create a more diverse company focused on batteries, solar energy, automobiles and heavier vehicles.

In an interview Wednesday, Mr. Musk said that he had envisioned Tesla’s role in solar energy back in 2006 when he laid out his initial plan for the auto maker. The combination of the companies, he said, is intended to remove conflicts of interest created when the separate entities do business with one another.

A Tesla spokeswoman said the merger was “the best way for Tesla to bring an integrated clean energy product to market.”

Last week, Mr. Musk and his cousins—SolarCity Chief Executive Lyndon Rive and its technology chief, Peter Rive—disclosed they would together buy more than 80% of a $124 million SolarCity bond issue. The bonds will pay an annual interest rate of 6.5% [qirexnote: this interest rate is junk territory] and mature in 18 months.

Mr. Musk said he bought half of the SolarCity bonds “as a show of faith in the company.”

Before the bond deal was announced, SolarCity’s advisers had asked Tesla to “consider providing SolarCity with short-term financing” amid the pending merger deal, according to Wednesday’s filing. Mr. Musk said the bond sale was a better option.

“SolarCity needs emergency funds to keep operating, and without the debt they issued to insiders they wouldn’t be able to cover their working capital,” said Gordon Johnson, a managing director at Axiom Capital Management Inc.

In its 10-year history, SolarCity has notched total revenue of just $1.5 billion, while amassing $3 billion in debt. Because the company’s operating costs are high and its profit margins are thin, it depends on issuing debt. SolarCity has a $250 million term loan due Dec. 31, and $55 million in bonds coming due between Sept. 3 and the end of the year.

Tesla’s debt-to-equity ratio was 145.5% as of June 30, and SolarCity’s was 375.6%, according to FactSet

Tesla said in Wednesday’s filing it could issue up to 15 million shares to pay SolarCity shareholders to acquire their company. The filing said the stock-swap offer now values SolarCity at $24.16 a share, or roughly $2.4 billion based on Tesla’s closing stock price June 21, before its offer was disclosed. Shareholders of both companies are likely to vote on the proposed deal in October.

Tesla has been able to regularly tap various sources of capital to sustain its operations. In the second quarter, it raised $1.7 billion from an equity offering, and its reserves also benefited from hundreds of thousands of $1,000 refundable deposits for its coming Model 3 vehicle.

Tesla’s core business has burned more than $3 billion in cash dating back to late 2014. It has issued equity or convertible debt every year since its initial public offering in 2010.

In the Wednesday filing, Tesla said it would again tap debt or equity markets by the end of 2016 to cover its costs of merging with SolarCity, developing a cheaper electric car, producing batteries and expanding retail operations.

The filing indicated that Tesla’s board of directors began seriously considering an acquisition of SolarCity following a board meeting on May 31. Earlier, in February, Mr. Musk suggested to Lyndon Rive, SolarCity’s CEO, that they should consider a combination. But the Tesla board, at a Feb. 29 meeting, rejected the idea because of “the potential impact on Tesla management’s time and resources,” the filing said.

On June 21, Tesla announced on its blog that it had made a preliminary proposal to SolarCity. By the first week of July, SolarCity’s liquidity had deteriorated further, the filing showed. At a July 6 meeting, representatives of SolarCity’s outside counsel and bankers discussed SolarCity’s options and its “near-term operational and liquidity position,” the filing said.

At that meeting, the advisers also discussed another development. “Certain lenders appeared to be delaying funding certain financings of SolarCity as a result of the announcement of the Tesla proposal and that SolarCity was unable to access the equity capital markets as it regularly did as a result of the pending Tesla proposal,” the filing said.

Between June 21 and SolarCity’s ultimate acceptance of Tesla’s offer, SolarCity’s advisers considered 15 potential suitors, including one private-equity firm and several financial counterparties, according to the filing. By July 21, all the potential suitors except one had backed away, the filing said.

The next day, the final suitor dropped out as well because “it did not believe that it was in a position to make an acquisition proposal within the range of Tesla’s original proposal,” according to the filing.

Seamonster
Apr 30, 2007

IMMER SIEGREICH

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

they blew up facebook's first satellite

amos-6 was an inside job

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

let's keep interest rates at nothing forever it's good for the economy for companies to go 10 figgies into debt in 3 years then spectacularly melt down

-leading economists

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

my account is almost as old as 1/6.5 rotors

yellow borders
Jan 7, 2010

mark fuckerberg lost a thing

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
if you think that's a setback for him just wait until people figure out that global warming is fake

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

quote:

Tesla’s debt-to-equity ratio was 145.5% as of June 30, and SolarCity’s was 375.6%, according to FactSet
:prepop:

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
LONG GAME

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer

BONGHITZ posted:



rip 2 elon

im the idiot that cant hold a camera straight

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
we get it!! you vape

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

they blew up facebook's first satellite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxszN_1k6fQ

bart did 9/1

poty fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Sep 2, 2016

N.Z.'s Champion
Jun 8, 2003

Yam Slacker
elton musk

shitface
Nov 23, 2006

the Space X engineer surely regretted plugging their Note 7 into it

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
these self-flying rockets will never take off

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
apple will pick up tesla's assets at the fire sale

.lnk to the past
May 3, 2005

psoting while drunk

GameCube posted:

Elon loving Musk.

Elon Musking gently caress.

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

The Management posted:

apple will pick up tesla's assets at the fire sale

not even i think that tim would be dumb enough to try and enter the car business

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Elon "Elon Musk" Musk

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLUnBzSBMjg

SpaceAceJase
Nov 8, 2008

and you
have proved
to be...

a real shitty poster,
and a real james
Elton Musk - Rocket Man

holy poo poo a revelation to me

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
volvo self driving cars are happening, uber/google cant do real engineering and stand no chance against established swedish engineering prowess. the whole conversation is moot, the americans are doomed beforehand.

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.
dollars to donuts the sec is gonna investigate elon for attempting to rescue his cousin's solar city shithole by getting spaceX and tesla to bail them out


yeah, spaceX, the rocket company, invested 150M+ in SolarCity bonds.

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Company famous for working it's employees into the ground has multiple delays and failures with their highly complex product news at 11





Model S is sweet though

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

old musk unable to get his rocket out of the gate without exploding everywhere

PissWhisk
Oct 12, 2012

quackers
i love how everything explodes these days

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Maximum Leader posted:

volvo self driving cars are happening, uber/google cant do real engineering and stand no chance against established swedish engineering prowess. the whole conversation is moot, the americans are doomed beforehand.

scandinavia has three huge ups here - they have road budgets so things are standardized and not full of potholes, their drivers are very well trained, and nothing they allow on public roads would come anywhere close to failing the moose test

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

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Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


is elon musk the new steve jobs w/r/t nerd dickriding


cause im tired of hearing about how elon musk is gonna jerk off on the surface of jupiter in 5 years or whatever poo poo

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