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kimbo305 posted:I'm not being critical, just razzing you guys. Someone linked an essay about how decomposable the mechanics of judo throws are from their names, and that the primary barrier is just the foreignness of the individual terms. As much as it bugs me, Eddie Bravo has had a lot of success with this. The names may be real dumb poo poo like crackhead control, but the point is that there's a lot of names for lots of positions, they're distinct and hence memorable. For most BJJ sequences, it's the end goal or maybe the entry that gets the name. In 10th planet often individual steps gets their own names, which encourages people to focus on them and practice from these positions specifically. My very first instructor was this serious, gruff guy who was bad for this. I was constantly asking him what the names of things were and he'd just say "I don't know", in a tone of voice that said I shouldn't care either.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2018 21:12 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 02:20 |
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OWLS! posted:decided I wanted to get back on the punchsports train, and started going to a muay thai gym a week and a half ago. I was mangled when I did my first BJJ class (happened to be all rolling) for several years. Couldn't turn my head. Raising my left arm hurt bad. But these went away, and things got progressively better. You'll always have pain from bruises, strained muscles and the like. poo poo like your joints hurting is a big deal though, don't try and power through those.
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# ¿ May 4, 2018 14:51 |
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hi liter posted:there is universality to learning the japanese names. theyre actually not hard, and gives people from different nations a standard language. i've trained with people who dont speak a lick of english and gotten great instruction from them because i have a basic grasp of a judo terminology. Yeah. This doesn't mean we can't use english ever or that every single technique needs to be written in japanese, but the fact that osoto gari is the same in the USA as DR Congo as Kazakhstan as Vietnam is handy for international competition and also pretty neat generally.
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# ¿ May 18, 2018 00:25 |
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JaySB posted:Guys, I've seen all three Ip Man films. Wing Chun is legit. A good friend of mine has this exact opinion. "Wing Chun is good against boxers". He was really into Bruce Lee for a bit too, and would practice the 1 inch and 3 inch punch on a heavy bag we had when we lived together. At one point I got tired of him talking about this, so I asked him to 3 inch punch me. He could do it as hard as he liked. I'm real skinny so my sternum/solar plexus/gut isn't really shielded my muscle. And he's a big guy, 6'5 200lbs, with a little boxing experience. It stung a bit with repeated blows, but it mostly did nothing.
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# ¿ May 18, 2018 09:09 |
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Siivola posted:I loving love watching full-contact karate. Is it actually fun to watch the events, or just highlights like this?
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# ¿ May 20, 2018 14:13 |
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I like the Glory rules. Not perfect but pretty fun.
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# ¿ May 20, 2018 15:48 |
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:How many of you guys/girls integrate yoga into their BJJ regimen? How has it helped you? Just curious. I'm just getting back into BJJ now, but I fully intend to regularly train yoga at the same time. So while I can't talk too directly, I can say there's a lot of nice overlap. If you train BJJ you'll find yoga a very natural thing to get into-- twisting your body into interesting positions and holding them will feel normal to you. If you stretch after a BJJ class to try and increase your flexibility, well you'll get similar or better results from taking yoga. Give it a try.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2018 20:35 |
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DC has some good looking BJJ places. Just avoid the self-defense ones. This one's instructor is a black belt under Drysdale and has done well in a bunch of big competitions. http://abmarbjjacademy.com/instructors/abmar-barbosa/ I own a book written by the instructors here. That's neat. http://www.rjjanova.com/about-ribeiro-jiu-jitsu-academy-nova/ A pure BJJ school won't get you far in MMA mind you. But if you take a free trial class at one (and if they don't let you try for free, you shouldn't be there at all) to understand just how useless your skills are right now. Having a 130lbs blue belt dominate you for 5 minutes will be quite educational. Then remember that your Muay Thai experience will be similar, just more brutal. You could also go to a local MMA event, ideally one featuring amateur fighters, and pay attention to the gym affiliations.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2018 21:11 |
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starkebn posted:You're 28 and out of shape and think you can make it to UFC? Wow. You're 10 years too late. He's got TMA experience though, don't forget that.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2018 13:35 |
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Cephas posted:I've been doing judo for a while now, and I'd like to catch up a bit on my ground techniques. I know a few holds and submissions for my yellow belt, but I have gaps in some of the more technical stuff like escapes, mounting positions, ways to get past someone's guard, and stuff like that. In judo there are a bunch of kihon/basic techniques, like breakfalls, footwork, posture, and gripping, and they all have specific names and specific ways to perform them so it's easy to learn. Like if I knew someone who wanted to learn judo from scratch, for standing techniques I could be like "okay, here's the footwork, here's how you fall, here's how you grip," and so on, and could catch them up to speed on the fundamentals. Is there an equivalent like that for newaza or bjj? BJJ is built around a hierarchy of positions. Start at the weakest, and work your way up. Guard Side control Mount Back A good place to start is to learn how to move between these positions.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2018 06:14 |
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Liquid Communism posted:Makes sense, given that the IOC keeps trying to remove it from the Olympics to grandstand, and as mentioned there's no money in it except for the best of the best who learn some striking and go MMA. Is money the only driving factor here? Colleges do all kinds of sports, and while some of them are platforms to build a career on, others like say volleyball clearly aren't a way to make a living and yet they're still practiced.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2018 16:05 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loXqgWXSUUI I recommend watching the original video, and the follow-up he did ~ a year later. They're a bit less, click baity maybe, though its only in this one he seems to have given up on practicing aikido altogether. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUXTC8g_pk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3IwxR2Ar-I
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 04:40 |
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Verisimilidude posted:This makes me wonder what context a lot of these aikido moves are supposed to be applied. They don't seem to work well against an opponent who is boxing, but perhaps they would work better against someone who was wielding a weapon? Even if the techniques were valid (and they mostly look like they are not) since they're never practiced with resistance, or used in sparring, or used in competition, there is no way to actually apply these techniques. Apparently back in the day aikido was taught to people that already had judo or karate black belts, and that it was meant as a sort of supplement. I don't know how true that is. In this vein is Roy Dean, black belt in BJJ, judo and aikido. He made popular instructional videos back when I did most of my training. He likes to talk about aikido but it mostly comes out in his frequent use of wrist locks in BJJ. Anyone interested may want to check him out.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 15:31 |
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Those slips though.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2018 23:52 |
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Odddzy posted:It works, reading now, is the guy from French Canada? I was surprised at the french in his intro. McGill is a university in Montreal, Quebec, so some french isn't that unusual.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2018 03:11 |
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Bruce Lee
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2018 16:30 |
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Wear wraps. You get the added benefit of feeling cool as you put them on.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2018 03:19 |
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Magnus Manfist posted:In my gym - just a normal weights gym, not martial arts - there's a group who train muay thai with no head shots. They have no equipment beyond pads, no ring or heavy bags, they always just have two pairs at once sparring in basically the little stretching area. It's kind of a weightlifting/bodybuilding gym so the guys are absolutely loving stacked, but they have no idea how to box. It's actually fascinating how badly it screws up the mechanics of boxing. You can't keep distance at all without jabs and straights. Basically attack is just walking into close range without a care in the world, leaning way forwards with their hands down (so the torso's pretty well covered, but they seem to have no idea their chins are just hanging out there) and throwing body shots. Defence is basically just turning sideways a bit and covering your torso with arms, at which point body shots become completely ineffective, you're just bashing their shoulder and forearms. So every exchange is just two massively hench dudes swaggering up and throwing body shots and the occassional leg kick until they get tired and break apart, over and over. Take a video, please.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2018 00:00 |
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Duke Roufus has an ancient video instructional you might be able to still find. I liked it. Do you have a heavy bag at home?
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2018 21:27 |
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spacetoaster posted:No, I've got people to train with at home (we have pads) though. Here's a clip of the one I'm thinking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD0bHqiM1Is I wouldn't pay 75 bucks for it myself. If you're just starting and have a willing training partner (which is amazing btw) I'd practice basic stuff. The guys here would be better able to suggest drills than me, or you could just take drills from your gym home with you. Man I wish I lived with a training partner, there's so much stuff I'd like to drill at home.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2018 22:30 |
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Scruff_McGee posted:If you are interested in free high quality Youtube videos - it was mentioned earlier in this thread I believe, but Joseph Valtellini has some great videos here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?JosephValtellini?videos especially if you have a training partner. Its largely kickboxing focused but he does have some Muay Thai specific stuff. I've been going through this list as a beginner, and could totally see building a training regime from these. The first link doesn't work, but searching on youtube for the name finds the channel. Which is loving awesome. I've seen that guy in Glory before and liked him. And I really like seeing video #70-- that's a lot of content right there. Thanks.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2018 00:26 |
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Cephas posted:I've been doing judo for almost 8 months now, and I've been picking up a few little pains around certain joints of my body. Like, my thumb/wrist, my shoulder, one of my big toes. And tonight I was doing some light ne waza with someone a lot heavier than me and when he was turning me over I heard a loud series of little cracks/pops around my humerus/ulna area. It doesn't seem like anything major, but I have the feeling that this one is going to join all the others and linger for a while. Pain of all shapes and sizes will be your constant companion if you train hard and consistently.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2018 03:19 |
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OscarDiggs posted:Will an average Judo session constitute a strength training day? What's your priority? I train BJJ, and for me that's my number 1. All my other training takes a back seat-- if I'm too tired/sore during BJJ, then I cut something else out. It sounds like you're over-training, so the only real question is what you cut.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2018 14:48 |
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Once I was walking by a park and saw people "fighting" with foam swords. I started talking to them, and challenged one to a duel. I won, with no training in this "sport". Can't say I respect it much.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 11:50 |
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OscarDiggs posted:Alright, so, a few people at my Judo club (the Sensei included) have been hinting at the fact that there is a grading competition happening in January thats "around my skill level." Asking your sensei is probably a good start. Frankly he has a better awareness of your relative skill than you do.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2018 16:22 |
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kimbo305 posted:Jamie, pull up that video. The speed at which the person flies back looks almost fake. I hope they were wearing armour.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2018 22:23 |
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Dave Grool posted:staring at the wall when passing/breaking guard is good practice for maintaining correct posture too Yeah. I often find myself looking above uke's head at some random spot on the mat while rolling.
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2018 22:29 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I did my Muay Thai class a few days ago. It was pretty good. It consisted of doing warms and working on form when striking and kicking. I was a bit shocked to see that there was no "ring" in the gym as I assumed people would spare there. Not sure if that's a red flag or not. How is the sparring done? Often light sparring is done wherever there's space. Its harder to do heavy sparring or dedicated training when you might bump into people fighting 4 feet to your left.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2019 00:12 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:Great points in this thread. The place has high reviews, but then again so does almost every other gym. I think posting them is fine, but you could also just go and try them. Seeing a variety of different schools will give you a better perspective on the matter.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2019 18:58 |
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Seen on the internet:quote:-Tae Kwon Do: due to increasing circumference around your middle, you lose the ability to touch your toes and often to even see them. You cannot say no to weapons with metallic or glitter paint. You believe hairstyles and fashions reached their pinnacle in 1983
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2019 12:34 |
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I used the medium range boil and bites, they cost like $25 or something. I'm sure I could get better, but I don't even notice it my mouth anymore and its definitely saved me from a few knees to the jaw.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2019 00:38 |
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Conceptually, Judo is probably my favorite martial art, largely for historical reasons. But the rules are just terrible. Attempts to keep it pure have only hampered the art and prevented natural evolution. I do not want BJJ to become an olympic sport for this reason.
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# ¿ May 20, 2019 23:00 |
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VulgarandStupid posted:It really sucks too because you don’t see a lot of Judo guys dominating in MMA these days. Clearly it is a useful skill to have but without the gi and rule set it, few judoka have really excelled and many argue that you’d get a lot more mileage out of time spent learning wrestling. Or sambo!
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# ¿ May 21, 2019 14:34 |
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Judo. Bring comfortable in standup grappling will be useful. Judo is also typically cheap and has quality instruction. Muay Thai will get you used to range, and people trying to get you with things at different ranges. You'll probably get a very good cardio workout. Honestly, you should just try them and see which clicks with you. The best option is there one that you'll actually go to.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2019 14:09 |
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willie_dee posted:Update. Moped crime has significantly decreased now police officers are allowed to ram them. I've heard of really fun-sounding drills for knife defence stuff. Basically you have a dummy knife and you put lipstick or something similar on the sharp parts. Then you have people try their knife defense moves. The result seems to be that you get a lot of lipstick on you. I bet it would be an eye opening experience. I agree with the "just run" sentiment, but I don't think that should discourage you from looking into it. Just don't pretend like you're invulnerable to knives, no matter how much training you have.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2019 02:42 |
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CommonShore posted:In Borges's short stories about Argentinian knife fighters, children practice by using charred sticks as training knives. Neat.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2019 03:30 |
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Siivola posted:It's not leverage. It's moment of inertia. Its both, and more. Moment of inertia is a property of an object, namely how hard it is to get it rotating. This is what makes a staff hit hard. By holding a staff at different points, you are effectively changing the length of the lever arm as you swing. If you hit with the far end, but hold somewhere closer to the middle, then this is leverage. And since this is all rotational, its more proper to use torque rather than force. In any case, I think we all knew what was meant by leverage.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2019 13:58 |
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kimbo305 posted:I'd say this guy's sparring looks pretty good for one year of training, assuming it was 1-3 times a week. He's got a lot of flaws that will take a long time to iron out, but looks about as comfortable in there as people who trained from scratch for 2 years. It wasn't obvious to me what if any habits or anti-habits he picked up from aikido. His biggest flaw defensively is leaning back to avoid strikes, but that looks the same as people who have 0 prior experience would do. I think in the video he said he trained 6 times a week. And yeah he looked pretty good.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2020 22:04 |
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Are you a kid? Because that's all I see on their website.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2020 22:00 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 02:20 |
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GlyphGryph posted:The Muy Thai is "adults only", (which actually means 13+), but from what little I've seen it's mostly actual adults. Their Kenpo stuff is very kid focused though. My comment was a bit glib, but what I was implying was that it isn't great for you, an adult, to go to a website to check out their services and see only children in the photos. It implies that adults aren't their main customers or what they focus on. School's whose bread and butter is kids classes are often very different from those focused on adult stuff. I'd be wary.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2020 23:06 |