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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

We gave cops tasers and batons specifically so they wouldn't need to just shoot all of their problems away. Guns should never, under any circumstances, be used for non-lethal hits. Even assuming you don't miss the smaller target and accidentally hit whatever or whoever's standing behind the suspect, the limbs have their own major blood vessels and you're still risking death or permanent crippling to the suspect if used against them.

If you're in a situation where pumping half a dozen bullets into the guy's chest isn't the best response, just don't use your gun! poo poo, there's probably a good chance you can talk your way out of any violence. And that means actual diplomacy and negotiation, not screaming at the person to get on the ground or be killed.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Has there been any reaction from Freep on Trump agreeing with Clinton on some level of gun control? Or did they just let that go in one ear and out the other?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Cythereal posted:

The ironic thing is, porn aside Playboy historically has been a distinctly progressive publication for anyone who actually reads the articles. They stopped with the porn because they realized this is the internet era, they simply can't compete with the internet's limitless supply of free porn.

Free market, Freep.

Seriously, go buy some old Playboys. Issues from the 1960s and 1970s are only a few bucks, especially if you find them at flea markets. It's almost difficult to find the porn in them because the magazines are 95% interviews, editorials, letters, movie and restaurant reviews, etc. The nude pictures get a small section shoved into the middle.

The issue I picked up at a flea market had an interview with John Lindsay, the Republican mayor of New York City at the time of publication. It's startling to see how incredibly different the Republican party was back then compared to now. Lindsay comes off as a moderate Democrat by modern standards, supporting black-owned businesses in Harlem and coming off as a very reasonable conservative. The same issue had letters from homosexuals talking about the harassment they got from cops (this was I think just a few months or a few years before Stonewall) and slyly suggesting that some of the undercover officers propositioning them to lure them into an arrest were repressed gay men themselves.

Old Playboys are a brilliant look at the culture of their time, and it's a shame they get discarded with a reputation as just useless porn.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

How are u posted:

What was Dale Reeds last Freep post?

quote:

Breaking! US Swimmers can leave Brazil on one condition
8/18/2016, 3:32:22 AM · 22 of 60
dalereed to BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
In every other country in the world, all participants in anything contraversatly in an accident or illegal is guilty until proved innocent.
When I crashed my airplane in Mexico I was held under house arrest for three weeks and all my passengers for a little over a week.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

"Prosecute him!"

".....for doing his job legally and correctly?"

"PROSECUTE HIM"

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Icon Of Sin posted:

Found in the USPol thread:


:qq:

Holy poo poo, a "blue collar billionaire". Even assuming Trump is a billionaire and hasn't been bullshitting for years, the guy went to private schools and got a loan from his dad bigger than most of us will ever see in our bank accounts. The guy's collar is white as the hoods worn by his supporters.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

To: All

First thing Trump should do is attack the Media/Moderators, call them on their BS in the previous debates and tell them straight up :” You will not hijack this debate”....I think standing up and being an Alpha male at the onset will be a winning strategy.


39 posted on 10/5/2016, 9:26:28 AM by Maverick68 (p)

This may be my favorite one. They're suggesting that the good strategy is Trump immediately throwing out all rules of decorum and yelling at the moderators to try and establish dominance.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

The worst thing, though, is that they've worked themselves into a corner. The only escape route is moderating their views, but this is impossible to them. Purity of thought must be maintained.

Let's face it, folks. Freepers are self-radicalizing right now in front of our eyes. Armageddon is around the corner. The country is dead once Hillary is elected. They're waiting for it.

What I personally don't buy is that they'll take the first shots. Freepers in specific, I mean. Do you really, really expect these cowards to do anything? I don't.

No, the first shots will be by someone else, probably a young Deplorable. It'll be way worse if they get caught first, though. Once it looks like there's a crackdown on the right wing militia groups, that is when the serious poo poo starts. There'll be no stopping it at that point. It won't be terrorism, it'll be fighting for freedom.

Things will be moderated somewhat if the GOP embraces the crazies after the election instead of rejecting them, but I think the country won't be served as well by that choice. The radicals need to be called out as radicals.

Well, Prester Jane is also one of those who pointed out just why we're not really in any massive danger of a revolution or anything: by and large, the radical right-wing is afraid to actually kill and die for their beliefs.

You saw it with Malheur, where only 30-40 identified occupiers were ever spotted and the Bundys couldn't claim more than 150. They got a lot of "I'd love to join your revolution, but this darn knee's been bothering me since my high school football days and I'm reliant on Social Security to keep the heat on." It takes a lot of guts to leave behind your comfortable, relatively safe life as an American citizen with full access to government benefits and start shooting black people or federal workers or going Red Dawn and living out in the woods making sneak attacks on gas stations or something.

Of course we're going to see some level of radical behavior after Trump loses, be it a mass shooting at a federal building or another Malheur. But modern America is a generally stable society that's not exactly prone to mass revolts or coups. I'd be more worried if this was Iraq or Thailand or something.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zipperelli. posted:

You know, it won't be FReepers, but I am legit scared for what some of these fringe, extreme right-wing nutjobs will do when Trump loses. Like, a "revolution" is way too strong a word, but people committing terroristic acts on US soil in the name of "FREEDUMB" and misguided rage is a very, very real possibility. There are enough psychos who think that those kinds of actions would be a good idea to make me honestly believe that poo poo will actually go down, and the threats made thus far have at least some base in reality.

I'm sure also that because I live in the south that these ideas could come to fruition much easier than the rest of the country, what with the unending supply of guns and ignorance.

I mean, Obama's election was also the "last chance America has!" and there was a lot of talk about revolution, but all we got was 5 people dead in a Walmart shooting two years later and a failed occupation that only resulted in one dead terrorist at the beginning of 2016. For every one person willing to commit violence and sacrifice their life for the cause, there's 500,000 who can't be arsed to get off the couch or give up Social Security.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zanzibar Ham posted:

But don't worry, there's a lot of powder and it's very dry.

Again, we've thought this for a long time. I have no doubt that we'll see some kind of response, like increased hate crimes, but I don't think we're at risk of an attempted revolution or anything (at least nothing bigger than Malheur, which was a few dozen unprepared ranchers and suburbanites who forgot to bring food and mostly ran away as soon as it looked like they'd get arrested). For all the crap we get, the United States is a pretty stable first world nation with little danger in daily life. We're simply not the kind of society that's susceptible to mass uprisings or an American Spring or anything like that.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

As it happens, NFL ratings are down by a huge chunk. An NFL internal memo got leaked last week...
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/784428496089182208
They are confident that player protests are not a significant reason for the ratings decline.

Is this just covering television network ratings? I think TV in general has taken a big hit because of the ease with which it can be watched at your leisure online now, so people are becoming less tied to the TV to see stuff they're interested in. I know the Olympics this year suffered a big ratings hit because everyone just kept up with online streams and whatnot.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Night10194 posted:

Wouldn't being attracted to a transwoman as a guy just make you straight? I mean, they're a woman.

Not if you think trans women are just mentally ill male perverts.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Finnankainen posted:

TIme to check in on good ol Lazamataz

Got robbed. LOL


"Yeah bro, I'd totally have Mozambique'd those darkies if I brought my gun! They were lucky I was held back, man!"

Their baseball caps are as sideways and their collars as popped as the guys at the club, it seems.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jagged Jim posted:

To: Morgana

Clearly his attorney’s instructor was Hillary Clinton.

2 posted on Fri Oct 14 2016 13:20:40 GMT-0700 (PDT) by InsidiousMongo
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I was curious about the "Hillary defended a rapist in court and laughed at the victim!" claim because it's so stereotypically evil. Turns out that she had actually tried to refuse the case because of how obviously guilty the guy was, but the judge refused to rescue her. Because she knew that she would have to try and defend a guilty man in court, she convinced him to plead guilty instead of trying to drag it out. The "laughing" part was a reflection years down the line, where she laughed about how naive she was to think that justice was as easy as putting an obviously guilty man in jail.

So the common story that gets told is actually the complete opposite of reality, as is expected.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

This has got to be the only time I've seen anyone unironically endorse that film:

Hey now, he could be endorsing the musical!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZCpSVTWCs

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

So the other day, Obama told Trump to stop whining and just admit that he's going to lose fair and square.

Trump's response? Trump bringing Obama's half-brother to the debate as his guest posted by freeper ameribbean expat

Malik Obama is a bit of a nut, but I'm not entirely sure what he's trying to demonstrate by bringing him. Let's see if freep can tell me why this is a good idea.
.... does he, though?

Supposedly Clinton's campaign has requested that tonight's debate skip the handshake and families/guests meeting at the beginning, specifically because they think Trump is going to pull some crazy bullshit like when he tried to force Bill Clinton to confront those women last week and are trying to head it off at the pass.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Freepers: Bad Hombres

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014


In the end, all he did was tie the noose around himself and let Hillary kick the stool out from under him.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Best line of the debate.

That will go down in history with Reagan’s joke about Mondale’s youth and inexperience and Bentson’s “You’re no Jack Kennedy.”

Brilliant!


7 posted on 10/19/2016, 8:43:01 PM by Timpanagos1

I'm sure a lot of the awful things Trump said during the debates will go down in history. Just not for the reasons Freep thinks.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

MeLKoR posted:

She's a loving politician, if you gave her a soapbox she could go on for hours on whatever topic.

I still can't get over the anti-intellectualism here. It's considered bad to have a comprehensive understanding of a subject instead of just going with gut feelings and ignoring everyone telling you that you're wrong.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

To: Trump20162020

Either the “science” of polling is utterly broken or the pollsters are perpetrating out and out fraud.


"The polls don't match my beliefs. Therefore, polls in general are unscientific and we should stop using them."

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Kavak posted:

This is because it was a jury trial, right? They only deliberated for five hours, too.

The jury complained that one of the jurors was a former BLM employee, even though he admitted this during jury selection and made it all the way to deliberations, and so the judge kicked him off. A new jury was formed and deliberated for only a few hours before declaring not guilty on all charges, despite the judge's orders to start from square one. The only way this could have ever made sense is if the jury agreed beforehand to decide on a "not guilty" for every charge regardless of the facts.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Has Freep had any reaction on Trump openly encouraging voter fraud?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

To: Scythian_Reborn

I didn’t sleep all night on Election night in 2012. I had a dread going into it that the election would be stolen. I was right.....I’m sure the Soros voting machines were all working overtime, changing Republican votes to Democrat. I even ended up in the ER with skyrocketing blood pressure. This year I will try to stay calm, but am still worried that the cheating will be so massive that it will be tough to overcome.


19 posted on 11/1/2016, 8:30:21 AM by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)

Imagine being so angry that a Democrat winning an election hospitalizes you.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

occupied ga actually seems pretty sensible here: when you start increasing the punishment for harming certain citizens based on their career choice, you start not-so-subtly implying that their lives are worth more than average...which leads to the logic that other people are worth less. And that's exactly what results in things like Black Lives Matter being necessary.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

This actually does make me wonder: what happens in a presidential election if one of the candidates dies or is arrested before voting begins, or before the votes are counted? Does the election automatically go to the next highest candidate? Does the party get to emergency nominate a new candidate, and if this occurs after early voting begins do those votes get to be re-done?

I'm just curious about what would really happen if the Freep fantasy of Hillary being arrested tomorrow for treason was to come true. Or if Trump was to work himself up into a fatal heart attack out of rage.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

They fear becoming a minority because they're afraid that if they do, they'll get treated like they were treating minorities.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

Oh man, I love being reminded that there's a portion of the population in which the Satanic Panic never stopped. Satanic cults around every corner, witch covens trying to take down your favorite candidate, harmless New Agers being treated like they're nefarious masterminds in league with the devil. It's like I'm in the late 80's all over again!

And please, please let Hannity cover this. I want to hear him talk about how Hillary supports drinking peepee in order to get magical powers.

My fiancee is a witch. She's excited whenever she gets the chance to pretend to be a Satan worshiper and scare people.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

DeusExMachinima posted:

They really need to be careful with that powder. It's been kept so dry for so long it could be used as a desiccant by now. Any drier and it's liable to spontaneously combust.

Not sure if this was meant to be a metaphor, but it's a good one.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Edit: Mistook a joke for a real Freep quote.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Twelve by Pies posted:

Okay, I'm a pessimist, I admit. I'm still worried that Trump might pull off a win in the end.

But even with all my arzying, even I'm not dumb enough to think Trump will win the popular vote by 4-5% or even 10% like that one Freeper said.

How do you predict that he'll get the electoral vote?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Mors Rattus posted:

She also did a more extreme version of that thing Shia the Beef did - one of her pieces was her sitting still next to a table covered in various objects, including a gun, with the express promise that no matter what was done, she would not stop or resist anything.

Apparently the gun got pointed at her but not fired.

This led to this amazing overview of her artwork.

quote:

When she and Ulay broke up, it was in grand style: they turned the death of their relationship into a piece called The Lovers (1988), in which they walked towards each other from two sides of the Great Wall of China – 2,500km each, over the course of several months – meeting in the middle "to say goodbye". If that's not devotion to one's art, I don't know what is.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Tias posted:

There's a sovcit thread? :allears: can you link me?

There's this one here for the Bundy trial.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

myron cope posted:

My boss absolutely posts on r/The_Donald. Like, we found his account and it is definitely him. It's terrifying. From his comment rate he has slept like 8 hours in the past three days and responds to every post with some variation of vote and/or MAGA.

He may post on Freep, but I think it's just the_donald for now.

See if you can sneak on his computer and check the history for any Freep. We did that with a guy at work once because someone else had to use his computer and we found out that he liked Boku No Pico.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I don't even know if I want to read this thread any more. Watching the loving KKK gloat because their man got in the White House is depressing.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Whiz Palace posted:

I mean, bait-and-switch is always bad, but if it had to happen, it couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people.

I was fretting about implications for Canada in trade and immigration and whatnot, but then I remembered there are millions of actual black, Hispanic and Arab people in the US and I felt bad for even thinking my stuff mattered in comparison to what they're going to go through.

Not to mention the LGBT community, which Pence and Trump have all but promised to roll back rights for.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Fathis Munk posted:

Also women in general I guess.

I just want to know if Trump is even going to pretend to still care about the wall. If he's going to make a token effort or if he'll just never talk about it again.

I don't know if he'll actually try and build some Great Wall of America or anything, but he's probably going to try and at least set up more fences and set up border patrols. Maybe even extend the distance border patrols can set up checkpoints and perform random stops so they harass even more American citizens!

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Hillary having won the popular vote makes it sting even worse. She technically got more people who wanted her as president, but the way the system is set up means she still lost.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jay Rust posted:

This is morbid of me, and probably unhealthy, but I like remembering that these lovely people are old and will be dying soon

If Civil War 2.0 ever comes to pass like Freep claimed, someone will probably make sure of that!

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Whiz Palace posted:

I read elsewhere the suggestion that LGBT people arm themselves. I wonder what Freep would think of that?

I actually have seriously begun planning to get a handgun and concealed carry permit (I'm already a firearms owner, just not handguns). My fiancee is an openly queer witch, so she's just one skin tone away from being prime fodder for the people I'm afraid this new political scene will bring out.

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