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Non Serviam posted:What about her ties to foreign dictators? Her support for the war crimes of the Obama administration? Her support for Israel? So she's an American politician? Also Obama at least admitted to torturing some folk which is light years beyond any other president. The world loving sucks dude and so does US foreign policy. Get used to baby steps in the right direction. Also want me to call up actual Jesus? He seems like the only candidate to fit your steep needs.
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Obama also refused to prosecute any of the war criminals. Really, gently caress that guy. Your standards are very low. Perhaps if you demanded better people instead of applauding a war criminal for admitting someone else was war criminal, you'd get better politicians. Guy Goodbody posted:I ain't ignoring poo poo, Clinton's pro-war with Russia position is a reason that I voted for her Some people just want to see the world burn. Speaking of that, I think it's scary how many Trump supporters like Putin. I mean... Sure, he's authoritarian, and they like that, but do they not know that he isn't exactly a free market guy? Of course they don't...
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SimonCat posted:I'm referencing the 3rd debate. Odd I dont remember her saying she has no follow up plan.
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SimonCat posted:That is not a ringing endorsement of Hillary's judgement. If she is President, how will the President lie to her about intel?
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SimonCat posted:Since Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, yeah, it's pretty shocking. Your phrasing is odd here. It's not really something she could "admit," it was a public fact and the result of the Iraq Liberation Act which did pass in 1998.
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Nov 1, 2016 07:21
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Non Serviam posted:Some people just want to see the world burn. He's super free market. He can sell the state to anyone he wants, and he wants to sell it to his friends so he does.
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Non Serviam posted:Your standards are very low. Perhaps if you demanded better people instead of applauding a war criminal for admitting someone else was war criminal, you'd get better politicians. Nobody else has, why would we?
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Harik posted:This is the stupidest thing. Yes, a no-fly zone would be a good thing. Yes, she should propose it as a way to try to stabilize Syria. Yes, Putin will say 'gently caress off' and continue to be a comicbook villain. The fact that this is what will happen doesn't mean it isn't a good idea and shouldn't be attempted. Expanding for the new page - basically the most we can do now that Russia has their dick firmly lodged in Assad is pressure and shame them. For the same reason exactly jack and poo poo could be done to prevent them from annexing crimea. The actual problem here is more fundamental: What the gently caress do you do when a nuclear power starts getting expansionist?
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Nov 1, 2016 07:23
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Spacebump posted:If she is President, how will the President lie to her about intel? She didn't vote based on the intel, she voted because regime change was a policy she was in favor of since at least 1998.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:He's super free market. He can sell the state to anyone he wants, and he wants to sell it to his friends so he does. To be fair the worst of this occurred under Yeltsin and he was celebrated in the West.
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Harik posted:Expanding for the new page - basically the most we can do now that Russia has their dick firmly lodged in Assad is pressure and shame them. For the same reason exactly jack and poo poo could be done to prevent them from annexing crimea. The actual problem here is more fundamental: What the gently caress do you do when a nuclear power starts getting expansionist? You cannot shame Vladimir.
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Harik posted:Expanding for the new page - basically the most we can do now that Russia has their dick firmly lodged in Assad is pressure and shame them. For the same reason exactly jack and poo poo could be done to prevent them from annexing crimea. The actual problem here is more fundamental: What the gently caress do you do when a nuclear power starts getting expansionist? Engage in cold war, duh.
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Crazy Ted posted:This is not election-related, but this is good.. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/15/you-can-t-steal-a-culture-in-defense-of-cultural-appropriation.html
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Crowsbeak posted:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/15/you-can-t-steal-a-culture-in-defense-of-cultural-appropriation.html Y'all really weird
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Crazy Ted posted:This is not election-related, but this is good.. This is real loving dumb. Rural people outside the south have used y'all forever too, just because it's part of the southern stereotype doesn't mean it was ever an exclusively southern thing. It's like saying that eating watermelons is culturally appropriative of black people.
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TheGreatGnocchi posted:My favorite part about election night, all the meltdowns. My favorite of all time is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoqti0lzAw This meltdown after the 2012 election is worth listening to for the 20+ minutes. 
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Non Serviam posted:You cannot shame Vladimir. Which leaves economic pressure, that Europe has already tried and they've tried to ignore (so far). It's painful, but not to the people who matter, so it hasn't really slowed them down. remusclaw posted:Engage in cold war, duh. Everything old is new again. I'm old enough to remember the end of the last one, not looking forward to round two.
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SimonCat posted:She didn't vote based on the intel, she voted because regime change was a policy she was in favor of since at least 1998. She also said this in the link you posted "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program...It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." but you are ignoring that.
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Non Serviam posted:Obama also refused to prosecute any of the war criminals. Really, gently caress that guy. Yeah sure sets a great precedent spending your first 100 days going after the previous administration.
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Non Serviam posted:Speaking of that, I think it's scary how many Trump supporters like Putin. I mean... Sure, he's authoritarian, and they like that, but do they not know that he isn't exactly a free market guy?
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Harik posted:This is the stupidest thing. Yes, a no-fly zone would be a good thing. Yes, she should propose it as a way to try to stabilize Syria. Yes, Putin will say 'gently caress off' and continue to be a comicbook villain. The fact that this is what will happen doesn't mean it isn't a good idea and shouldn't be attempted. Seriously this a million times, I have to yell this daily at idiots.
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Lol @ thinking more than a tiny minority of republicans actually give a poo poo economic policy. Republicans nowadays vote R to combat illegal immigration, muslims and fever pitch dream liberal elite agendas
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:Yeah sure sets a great precedent spending your first 100 days going after the previous administration. He had 8 years after that. It turns out the statute of limitations on war crimes isn't 100 days.
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Non Serviam posted:He had 8 years after that. It turns out the statute of limitations on war crimes isn't 100 days. He didn't do it for the same reason Ford pardoned Nixon. It wouldn't have done any good. I'm so sorry you cannot understand that politicians make deals and sometimes that goes against your perfect little ideal world.
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No U.S. President is ever going to trial let alone to prison as long as the U.S. itself exists. Get over it.
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Scent of Worf posted:Lol @ thinking more than a tiny minority of republicans actually give a poo poo economic policy. Republicans nowadays vote R to combat illegal immigration, muslims and fever pitch dream liberal elite agendas You have to distinguish between republican backers and republican voters, they want vastly different things. The candidates are mixed between the two groups lately.
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Kavak posted:No U.S. President is ever going to trial let alone to prison as long as the U.S. itself exists. Get over it. Oh come on, he's not even a very good troll. Straight up calls Obama a war criminal.
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Are we waiting for Midnight pacific for the new thread? Or Alaskan?
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Non Serviam posted:Y'all really weird It is weird.
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Grouchio posted:Are we waiting for Midnight pacific for the new thread? Or Alaskan? They happen when they happen. I think cosmonaut said he was going to drop it pacific time.
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Anybody using the Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich dichotomy for this election should not be taken seriously at this point. Hillary Clinton has plenty of negatives, none of which are unusual for most American politicians; but saying that she's equally as terrible as anybody the GOP was going to put forth (let alone Donald) is reaching heavily for a "pox on both houses" equivalency which misses any of the very thought and nuance they supposedly want from their idealized, conceptual candidate that will never exist. Criticism of Clinton is valid, but these purity tests asked of people who clearly already understand her faults is pointless.
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Neeksy posted:Anybody using the Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich dichotomy for this election should not be taken seriously at this point. Was there ever a time we should have taken anyone who used that seriously?
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My favorite was implying Jill "wifi hurts us" Stein as a better option than Hillary.
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Kavak posted:No U.S. President is ever going to trial let alone to prison as long as the U.S. itself exists. Get over it. Which is exactly why we must elect Trump! Once he destroys the U.S., we of the Revolutionary People's Front can finally prosecute infamous war criminals George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Hillary KKKlinton! Right after we hang those splitter shithead traitors in the People's Revolutionary Front and the Popular Revolution Front, of course.
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:My favorite was implying Jill "wifi hurts us" Stein as a better option than Hillary. Yeah that actually made me giggle. Jill "Really Really Into Crystals Probably" Stein and Gary "DID NOT KNOW WHAT ALEPPO IS" Johnson.
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Don't forget Stein's running mate who published essays with and appeared on the radio show of a holocaust denialist.
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Non Serviam posted:Which she refused to release. Even Senator Warren sees her as being in the pocket of wall street. i like it when people bring up the speaking fees b/c it's a p good indicator of misogyny quote:3) Money — OK let’s talk about her money. Hillary has a lot of it. And she has earned most of it through well-paid speaking fees. And the idea of getting paid $200,000 or more for a single speech seems so ludicrous to many people that they assume that it simply must be some form of bribery. But the truth is that there is a large, well-established and extremely lucrative industry for speaking and appearance fees. And within that industry many celebrities, sports stars, business leaders and former politicians get paid very well. At her most popular for example, Paris Hilton was being paid as much as $750,000 just to make an appearance. Kylie Jenner was once paid over $100,000 to go to her own birthday party, and to this day Vanilla Ice gets $15,000 simply to show up with his hat turned sideways. the author then goes on to address the wall street "connection" it's a great article
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Don't forget Stein's running mate who published essays with and appeared on the radio show of a holocaust denialist. Stein's really ok with the slaughter of children isn't she?
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BaDandy posted:Yeah that actually made me giggle. Jill "Really Really Into Crystals Probably" Stein and Gary "DID NOT KNOW WHAT ALEPPO IS" Johnson. Third party candidates only seem good on human rights and foreign issues because they can make any claims they want with no worry that they will ever have to actually try to enact any of them.
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