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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I made a longer post following up on that that I submitted after the thread got closed and it lost, but basically they're welfare queens to the core

Their industry and the land they raise their heavily subsidized cattle on wouldn't exist without enormous government subsidies. So it's esp funny when they want to destroy revenue positive things like tourist spots to graze their cattle. The west isn't about cows anymore, and beef is a luxury good subsidized to be affordable

Plus Bundy's cattle were so vermin infested and feral that his neighbors had to get extra vaccines for their cattle if they wanted the beef to be salable lmao

Some fucjing shepherd of God's creation

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Hillary's social media team are rising rapidly through the ranks and will be a terror for decades to come

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I think they'll try to stop Cruz from taking the crown, but that the same idiots will be in charge and they'll be too cowardly and idiotic to stop him

Cruz is only slightly more electable than Trump

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




you laugh but this guy can make some serious money going around to various right wing talk shows saying he's a lifelong Democrat who is horrified at the nominee

There's a couple regulars on fox news who have been doing this since Kerry at least. One of them had a bowtie, but I don't think it was Starnes

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Pastrymancy posted:

The part that gets me is that all those problems do exist for people in that age range. Identifying them isn't making fun of them. And politicians identify problems that specific groups have all the time.

That, and anybody who has been paying any attention to the Democratic Party this last year and half knows full well that "living in parent's basement and working as an overqualified barista" is the exact same language they have been using, in no small part because it's a very quick and expressive way to turn their concerns into something quotable

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




"scalia was murdered, you don't find pillows on peoples faces" she said to her boyfriend, who was resting on the couch next to her with a pillow on his face

This whole thing should be tattooed on the foreheads of every Buckley conservative

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




also if you think that's troubling, read the piece washpo did on Dylan Roof's world

quote:

It is a man no one knows except Brandon, who had argued with Brandon earlier and who now barges into the trailer, pulls out a handgun and cocks it.

He points the gun at Brandon. He points it at Jacob. He points it at Justin. He points it at Lindsey. He points it at Joey, who stands up in the middle of the living room and says, “Shoot me.”

As the others watch, Joey inches toward the gun.

“Shoot me,” he says again, moving closer, and he keeps saying it.

“If you’re going to shoot anybody, shoot me,” he says, and as he closes in on the man, the man begins backing up.

“Shoot me,” Joey keeps saying, and now the man is out of the trailer and putting his gun back into his waistband, and Joey is escorting him up the rutted road, and the man is walking toward the highway, disappearing into the dark, and now Joey is shaking.

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Jun 5, 2004



DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the chance that woman doesn't attempt suicide after the election is basically 0% and that's really loving sad

I wish we had something to offer these people other than a shrug. Misery and hopelessness and withering contempt from Left and Right, no wonder she's a wreck. Even if we could wave a wand and provide free education and job training to everyone, she's old, she's set in her ways, and the jobs just aren't coming back. She may be a bigot but she's spent her life caught in the gears of a machine so big she can't even see it from inside. Against that propaganda machine, what chance did she have?

The stuff that will help them is the stuff they will vote against if it's a liberal proposing it. Capitalism and the private sector have failed them but they still worship them. They will need to be dragged I am afraid

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Let me just tell you now that being a server/barista in 99% of the country is a poo poo job that pays nothing

Anywhere the law doesn't expressly forbid it, servers will be making $2.13 an hour and barista rarely rises above what you'd be making stocking shelves at Target

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

I'm curious what you think will help them? The standard coastal liberal answer is "education" but that just doesn't work. Even with a college education, even if it was free, there just aren't enough jobs left for everyone. Not even close. That's not to mention the dilapidated state of their communities, the lack of basic human services... this isn't a problem that can be solved by turning everyone into New Yorker-reading urbanites with MBAs. I'm honestly at a loss. Guaranteed basic income is a start, and since we're about to elect the Democratic party's biggest champion of incrementalism and triangulation we know we're not even going to get that much.

naw, New New Deal. Huge Yuuuge public works projects in their community that pay well and offer jobs to anybody willing to take them, building systems that will employ them going forward. Big solar plants, overhaul of crumbling bridges and roads. Forcing money that's pooling at the top to trickle up for a change, something which will only ever happen if strong unions or the government is involved

GMI is going to be key for the future, it's just the reality of a world where production is up but jobs are down thanks to automation. But the NND and GMI are socialism, so they will never be allowed in, or if it is they will only accept it if it's a literal white supremacist pitching it, for "reasons"

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Oh joy Trump telling his supporters in PA in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS to patrol "certain" polling places for "bad things" that happen all the time there

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So Hillary raised $150 million in September. Her most so far.

Trump raised 3 bits of string

He has valued each bit of string at 75mil each

What an amazing fundraiser

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



If he has paid no taxes and received almost a billion in taxpayer largess for his various projects, he will end up being the biggest welfare queen ever

like, even the poorest of the poor get hit with a bunch of taxes they can't avoid, like sales tax and taxes on utilities etc etc etc

Trump doesn't have to pay even those

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Jackson Taus posted:

No, this deduction only applies to income tax, he'd still be on the hook for property taxes and sales taxes and poo poo.

If he wants to make this claim he's more than welcome to prove it, but so far all signs point to Trump Pays No Taxes

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



axeil posted:

If I'm reading it right, it's not just $50 million in income but $50 million in taxable income. That's an absolutely huge number as most rich people don't actually pull in that much income per year but instead just let their investments generate interest.

This means that at bare minimum, the dude was able to not pay around $1 billion in taxes over 20 years. A billion.

Meanwhile, he lobbied for and received hundreds of millions in taxpayer money for his projects in and around New York City

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



If this turns out to be an employee he just didn't pay who is out for revenge/recouped losses, well shucks just color me surprised as all heck

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Night10194 posted:

I have to know why you would posit he would do so.

Lol @ trying to analyze the checks and balances of image and pragmatism in Trump's mind

We don't even do that in C-SPAM and we're a bunch of brick-thick moron crazies

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



The Glumslinger posted:

It could theoretically have used 24 bits for storing, but i cant imagine that wouldnt just use 32

the lost 8 bits were shipped off to Mexico in the leadup to NAFTA

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Mel Mudkiper posted:

Imagine how hard it must suck to be sitting on all his tax retuns and be unable to release them legally

Like, if I were that dude be talked to by the Times, I would have been like "I cannot show you Mr. Trump's returns which are in that unlocked file cabinet over there, now if you excuse me, I will be in the other room for five minutes making coffee and will not be able to see or hear anything happening in this room"

maybe he's the one who released them and this is his way of maintaining plausible deniability

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Augus posted:

Trump's campaign trying to play the moral high ground of not using dubiously-obtained documents during a campaign is pretty hilarious considering their past attitude about hacking the DNC

Also re: civility in politics, in Jackson's day senators were killed in duels with other senators

one got beaten almost to death on the capitol steps for calling a southern senator a slave rapist (he was)

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




Rick Wilson really branching out lately

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Once he croaks, Ivanka and her hubbie will revamp the Trump brand into something potentially more respectable and almost certainly considerably different

Well, openly different. Trump hasn't been about real estate in decades

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Remember when that Mexican Warlock endorsed Hillary? He's been sending his scryings to Costa

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Just in case anyone was wondering the Trump tax story is still dominating the main headlines on every single news site.

Will for awhile, no matter how Trump responds

The media fucjing love poo poo like this. It's why smart campaigns release it super early to wear the story out so that it doesn't, for example, crop up a few weeks from the election and drown everything else out

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




Obama won bigly in 2012 despite white Millennials going for Romney by like +10. They're an important bloc, but not a kingmaker because a huge chunk of them are still in the 18-24 bloc that never loving shows up.

Is there data showing that she's down significantly among minority Millennials?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



punk rebel ecks posted:

Great thing to point out. A lot REALLY rested on that first debate. Thank god for Trump's incompetence.


Millenials are split like 50/50 when it comes to white vs non-white.

Minority Millennials overwhelmingly didn't vote for Hillary. Except for blacks who voted mostly for Bernie but it wasn't a total blowout. Though the younger they got, the more the gap widen. There is a general distaste for establishment parties in general amongst the youth.

I don't care how they voted in the primary, I care how they plan on voting now.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Also if the US was as white as the UK is, Trump would be +10 right now

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



lozzle posted:

Dumb white millenials who supported Sanders but are now planning to vote for Gary Johnson are exactly the dumb white millenials who never loving vote anyways.

And when they do, they don't vote Democrat

There seems to be this universal belief that Millennials are, as a whole, very liberal, but it's mostly false. We're just more diverse, so unlike with GenX and the Boomers, our lovely FYGM white people aren't as prominent.

"Unhappy with Trump, so voting Johnson" isn't someone who has ever been factored into the Clinton Calculus for where she stands.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Ditocoaf posted:

It's a reference to a @dril tweet which was a silly nonsensical turn of phrase. Building an entire frequently-used term on a single reference to a tiny funny thing seems like a bit much to me, but whatever, you can't stop memes.

(gently caress it: Part of the original tweet's humor comes from how it seems to come out of nowhere but fits well anyway, like most dril tweets. using it as a routine way to say "this guy was owned" diminishes everything involved. I'm a curmudgeon about memes. Arzy is a good and useful term though.)

an arzy is just a corncob that has withstood the test of time

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



ParliamentOfDogs posted:

Does anyone have a link to a reputable site that keeps a tab of the accusations that Trump cheats his employees? Googling around I find a lot of individual accusations but I'd like to see a comprehensive accounting if it exists.



it is alas, still being digitized

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



ParliamentOfDogs posted:

Yeah, that's kind of the thing. I'm googling around and it's overwhelming. Lot of individual anecdotes, everything from deciding not to pay a half million commission on a whim to snaking tips from wait staff. I'd like to see a huge well researched write up on as much of it as possible. Also, Ivanka Trump kind of sounds like a piece of poo poo as well, I'm not sure why people always seem to go easy on her.

She had a low enough profile that until more came out about her, it seemed plausible that she was grounded and capable, or at the very least a generic rich kid personality who has their name stamped on some mass produced handbags and blouses or whatever and calls themselves business people

Then of course she gave ripped off Clinton speeches about plans to help families that have no grounding in anything else on the GOP platform while loving over her own employees, and of course that time she made interns write an article about how great it was to do work for no money and tips on surviving in NYC with no income.

Young Freud posted:

Rape victim. By the Donald, even.

That was Ivana, not Ivanka

Well, probably just Ivana, and even then allegedly. It's the most we're probably getting and anyway, more than enough that the divorce was granted on grounds of cruel and inhumane treatment

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Everything the Foundation has done is public record so maybe its another huge doxx dump because he's a crybaby bitch

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Remember when hr outed a bunch of gay Saudis and released the info of every women in Afghanistan? Man glad he's curating these releases so carefully for maximum harm to governments lmao

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I'm pretty sure he was never anything more than a clearing house for Manning's stuff, and since then he's just been releasing whatever Pap Putin tells him to

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Moatman posted:

I thought that was Turkey.
Unless he also did that to Afghani women

Oh ya it was Turkey lol

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



TheGreatGnocchi posted:

Jesus christ people. This is gonna be like a NASA announcement (for Trump supporters). Huge erections and anticipation and a huge loving let down. Assange doesn't have poo poo, probably just some old documents showing some gray area dealings with shady people. This won't sink her campaign and won't shift the polls in any direction. Stop Arzying people.

also because it's goin to involve huge balls of gas

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Jun 5, 2004



woke wedding drone posted:

So the Assange announcement should be in about 45 minutes right?

Alex Jones just showed the itenerary and the first hour will be a bunch of faffing about how great WikiLeaks is

no info until 5am EST at the earliest

fuckin rapey swedes

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



On Terra Firma posted:

So far this press conference is a book promotion?

this was my prediction and i would love to be right

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



On Terra Firma posted:

"We are very proud of our drop-box."

They didn't do a loving thing. They were handed documents from various sources and they put them on the internet. They did nothing. Absolutely nothing. No repercussions at all.

They ensure that only the documents furthering the interests of the Kremlin leak, actually

Reminder that they confirmed they have a bunch of RNC stuff but refuse to release it

Even Snowden mocks him for his transparently partisan curating

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Archonex posted:

I expected them to at least have the decency to get to the point without forty minutes of self fellating nonsense.

In other news i'm almost wondering if they timed the broadcast since this joke of a press release is awkwardly timed for the campaign to deal with. It's the perfect time of night to utterly ruin someone's day and have half the staff of your average campaign blearily trying to do damage control over what's likely to be another unsourced claim.


Edit: Is Assange even a US citizen? I never thought to check though I don't think he is. Under our current laws even if she did attempt to have him drone striked or whatever (and lol at that because why the gently caress would anyone bother with Assange?) i'm pretty sure it wouldn't be illegal. The Iraq War did a number on how we conduct wars above board after all.

They announced it like 24 hours in advance because fundraising is the main goal here, not disruptive data dumps which they could do for free

Clinton's campaign will have people up to respond to anything not crazy

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



InfoWars staff is slowly realizing they're about to be made fools of

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