USPOL Oct: Trumpelthinskin's spinning wheel: spinning hot takes into gold

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Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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The thing to remember about Farage is he tried to play 4th dimensional chess and get Brexit close to winning but still have it fail so he could run on being denied in the future. The second it actually won he was basically the dog that caught the car and had to resign and run for the hills, like most pro-Brexit politicians.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 13:54

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Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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straight up brolic posted:

Garage's rhetorical style is to be a gigantic middle finger that has 80% of people say "what a loving oval office" and the other 20% say "finally someone who tells it like it is", dunno how Donny benefits from someone like that.

Also, don't forget: In the environment Farage is used to you can completely ignore the minority vote and stick to only appealing to whites because England is 90% white, compared to America.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 14:07

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I think the gap of skill is too wide for him to win even if he trains very hard off screen for the next couple weeks.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 14:12

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canepazzo posted:

https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/782225360150683648

Journalism, ladies and gents.

What in God's name has been wrong with the NYT this cycle? They specifically seem to have been performing well below their norm.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 15:58

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Josef bugman posted:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/stop-whining-about-false-balance-w440228

This seems like a very weird story from Matt Taibbi, anyone want to come in with thair take?

"Why are you mad we're not actually doing our jobs I'll prove it to you that it's your fault." :qq:

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 17:13

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Antti posted:

The entire Draper piece is worth a read.

I used to think Trump would become a useful idiot for the GOP and just staff his WH with Republican policy flacks, but Hannity as CoS would... not be that.

Considering his own campaign managers can only keep him 'restrained' for like a month at a time at best I don't know why anyone would assume the GOP would be able to control him. That's why the possibility of his winning is dangerous: He's an erratic and volatile man who likes denigrating and hurting others and displays of strength, whose qualification for 'are you any good' is 'how nice of things do you say about me'.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 18:32

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iospace posted:

Yeah. It's why we'll likely see manager #4 soon. VP debate is going to likely be a wash (and no one cares except for diehard politics nerds), though the Town Hall is going to be what ultimately makes or breaks Trump. He has a good showing, and he might be able to make things competitive again. He has a bad showing, and all that's left is to wonder "how bad will the blowout be and/or how will we be able to deal with such a harvest of corncobs?"

Honestly if we see Manager 4 it won't matter what he does. His campaign will fall apart from sheer organizational stresses at that point.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 19:22

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exploding mummy posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/782313153308884992

He's going to remain mad, isn't he? Forever.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 21:18

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I figured he'd start cooling off eventually but I think he'll remain angry about this up until he loses the second one, too.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 21:20

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I was thinking today was quiet and then 'I AM NOT MAD' and now this'll happen too. What else could happen this weekend? :allears:

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 21:32

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Chinese Gordon posted:

Oh my god.

Surely, *surely* he cannot come back from this week. I mean, I know his lunatic fanbase will vote for him whatever, but how can anyone -regardless of their political views- look at his recent behaviour and not see that President Trump would be an very real danger to the safety of the nation?

I doubt he'll come back from it in the sense of 'winning' but I'm pretty sure he won't lose by as much as he was on track to during August.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 21:50

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Also every pivot so far has required a new campaign manager and I'm pretty sure firing this one won't help him any.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 21:54

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Crow Jane posted:

... does he not realize that everyone listening at home could hear him fine?

Look man it has to be ANYTHING but him, because if it was all him he'd have obviously won bigly.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 21:55

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Crow Jane posted:

I don't know. Even the entertainment shows are basking in the meltdown, it's pretty hard not to be aware of what's going on.

Remember, he lost big time the last time he went nuts and it got all over the public sphere. He won't lose as much because the GOP has, mostly, rallied around him but he will lose voters from this. And he's unlikely to avoid minefields at the other two.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 21:59

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ImpAtom posted:

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/782250938916560901 / https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/782251130667622400 / https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/782251334678478848

Ahahahahaha.

Never has a yam become a corncob so thoroughly.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 22:03

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Pakled posted:

And 40-45% of people are going to vote for him for president

If he only gets 40% of the vote in the end I will be loving ecstatic. That's a crazy landslide.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 22:27

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terrorist ambulance posted:

I don't get how people figure he's this alpha male figure. He's a cheap whiny little loser, and whenever he loses he can't acknowledge any fault or wrong; the system must be crooked or wrong if it produced any result other than him being #1. People identify him as this swaggering alpha male character, but his whole life screams insecurity and weakness.

Because he never admits he's wrong and they're primed to think that means he's never wrong.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 22:34

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Phoenixan posted:

It was so clear, we could even hear his breathing and everything.

How much are you willing to bet that he's going to go into the 2nd debate with grudges from the 1st debate?

He's going to go into it and point out how much he won the first debate just like he did all the primary debates and recount how he called Little Marco and Low Energy Jeb out while Hillary tries not to laugh too much.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 23:05

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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It's also because he's up against a woman and there's a lot of unexamined baggage going on behind the scenes, so the woman who can handle 12 hour congressional grillings and who's put up with 25 years of hard slander without snapping is portrayed as weak and sickly next to the fat jackass who screams like a stuck pig the second things don't go 100% his way or anyone even suggests he might not be the best, let alone that he's a pile of poo poo.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 23:22

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Pastrymancy posted:

The part that gets me is that all those problems do exist for people in that age range. Identifying them isn't making fun of them. And politicians identify problems that specific groups have all the time.

Not just identifying them, but saying "They're right to feel they're getting poo poo on and we absolutely need to do things for them, too, and understand why they feel how they feel."

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 00:36

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Hodgepodge posted:

I still don't like how she uses "being like Scandinavia" as some bizarre impossible ideal, but that's about the only bad part.

I think it's more an acknowledgement that we have a massively different national situation from Scandinavia and that what works perfectly there might not work here.

Except their prison system, get us the loving Norwegian prison system right away goddamnit.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 00:49

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emdash posted:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0 hello

Ahahaha. It's a double punch: "Trump is a poo poo businessman who loses all the moneys" and "Trump is a tax cheat."

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 02:20

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emdash posted:

yeah I guess I'm just trying to temper my expectations

my favorite part of the article is where it says the tax docs were sent from a Trump Tower return address.

The boat is leaking again. He must be pissing off his campaign and employees again.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 02:22

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Crabtree posted:

I'm going to be happy watching Trump likely getting tossed under the bus because if he loses, he has a lot of loving litigation coming after him. He's going to make Romney's fall look tame. Lawsuits from not paying people, lawsuits into his holdings, tax investigations, Trump University, loving Trading with Cuba. For a stint that was supposed to make him a lot of money, Trump has basically put himself into a position where people are not only looking at the shady poo poo he's done, but have many ways to crucify him over it. His fall if he loses is going to YUUUUGE.

The thing is, he's previously relied on the fact that he never actually pissed off *powerful* people before. He poo poo on small contractors and people without legions of lawyers.

Now he's made a lot of very rich, very powerful people mad as hell and will make them madder still if (when) he goes down...

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 02:34

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Endorph posted:

There's no way this isn't legit. He said himself that he dodges taxes, and the way he dodges them is the only way that makes sense and the timeline adds up.

Also I'm pretty sure the NYT would be careful about this, for all their faults lately.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 02:53

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ComradeCosmobot posted:

What are the chances Trump leaked this himself like he did the John Miller tape?

I have to know why you would posit he would do so.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 03:06

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Epic High Five posted:

Lol @ trying to analyze the checks and balances of image and pragmatism in Trump's mind

We don't even do that in C-SPAM and we're a bunch of brick-thick moron crazies

I just wanted a plausible reason to use posit. :smith:

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 03:15

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Mel Mudkiper posted:

He lost so much money a machine designed specifically for the task of processing numerical data could not process it

That's our Don.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 03:19

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Like most things, what will matter most is how much he melts down over this.

And it directly insults his business acumen and implies a traitor in his organization, so he WILL melt down, most likely.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 03:39

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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And now, we wait for how he will jump face-first into the bear-trap on this.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 04:18

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Mel Mudkiper posted:

yo, check cnn.com

Ahahahahahaha.

He is gonna be poo poo PISSED.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 04:36

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Oh. Wikileaks has something 'huge', do they? Like they have the last 80 times?

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 04:42

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Hahaha it's the front page on Foxnews.com too as Trump Tax Trouble.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 04:46

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iospace posted:

WAIT

HAS ANYONE ASKED PAUL RYAN ABOUT THIS?

I NEED TO KNOW, I NEED TO KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Meanwhile, in John Boehner's den, he raises a glass to a picture of Pope Francis and thanks God the Holy Father told him to eject when he did.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 04:53

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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iospace posted:

One got posted:
https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/782405228230545408

Illegally obtained, huh? He gonna fight this out? Because gently caress, man, I hope that's what that means!

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 04:58

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Mel Mudkiper posted:

New York Times now providing evidence Trump did not pay income taxes in 1978, 1979, 1984, 1991, and 1993

Really?

He should not have tried to threaten them.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 05:08

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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NYT I take everything back

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 05:12

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Arcanen posted:

Ughh, now the NYT is going to be be insufferably self-righteous about their amazing journalistic integrity blah blah blah, despite being king of the truth is in the middle horserace bullshit for this entire election.

That said, can't wait to see the meltdown that comes from this, cause holy poo poo.

I will legit forgive them if this scandal actually destroys him.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 05:26

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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The one annoying part of every massive bombshell like this is waiting to see if it actually hits after it drops.

Still, I think the debate took that bullshit aura of invincibility off the bastard and he's taking on water now.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 06:03

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Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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So we're doing well enough that the new Arzying is Tom Clancy poo poo.

Good sign.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 06:10

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