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lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot
I don't know if this was posted in the other thread or not, but the San Diego Union Tribune has endorsed Hillary Clinton, after never endorsing a Democrat in its 148 year history.

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lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot
Once Donald Trump goes down in flames, I expect Republicans to realize that they cannot win solely on a platform of racism and hate, and I fully expect them to nominate David Duke in 2020 anyways.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Roland Jones posted:

It's probably in large part because she's not entirely FYGM and, requiring insulin herself and having a diabetic grandchild (not me), can sympathize quite a bit here, but still. As long as you can show them how it benefits them and don't call it socialism (or at least don't until after you've convinced them), Republicans can be pretty open to it in a lot of ways.

Supporting liberal policies because they benefit you personally is still FYGM.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot
Ahahaha literally Nigel Farage holy poo poo.

They deserve each other.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

...Pat Robertson is still alive?

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Night10194 posted:

Also, don't forget: In the environment Farage is used to you can completely ignore the minority vote and stick to only appealing to whites because England is 90% white, compared to America.

I'm pretty sure the Trump campaign is under the impression that Ohio is worth 250 EVs.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Rookersh posted:

No that was Boris.

Farage was the one who left England, and then suddenly and mysteriously got several job offers from the Russian government that'd have him set for life.

Trump sure does have a penchant for surrounding himself with Russian stooges.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

VH4Ever posted:

This shouldn't turn into a full derail probably but if I were a pro-Brexit voter I would feel more than a little strange for how those two guys basically pushed this through by using white fear of immigrants to squeak by and make Brexit a reality that Britain now has to deal with and then both basically stepped down and ceased being a part of what comes next. Really, you vehemently want Britain to go it alone, but drop out of politics now that the actual work of making that so is about to begin? Did you truly want this result or were you just demagoguing and hoping to continue to be an obstructionist oval office when it failed, then had no plan B when it didn't fail?

I doubt very seriously that the genuine Brexit voters (i.e. not the morons who voted for it "as a protest vote") are capable of this kind of critical thinking.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Nessus posted:

Yeah? I'd heard like 33%, but I expect the gap could adequately be explained by counting a slice of the Hispanic population in a different way.

I mean that's the thing, America HAS successfully resisted fascism in the past.

A decent number of Hispanics are also white so uh let's just say it's complicated.

The US is about 60% white if you only count whites that are not Hispanic.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot
To give you an idea how confusing this topic can be, look no further than the Zodiac Killer himself, Ted Cruz.

Stormfront has mixed feelings on whether or not he qualifies as "white."

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Oh dear me posted:

From a European perspective it actually seems strange that you don't consider Hispanic people white, Spain is right here and everything. We don't have Hispanic as a category on our census questions in the UK, 'Other white' would be the natural category.

The American perspective for a long time was that the Irish weren't white.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

computer parts posted:

No, that was the British perspective. The Americans who did that tended to be new British immigrants.

Yeah I suppose that might be true. I've only really been exposed to the American side of hating the Irish. I've never really heard that the British specifically considered the Irish "non-white" but after doing some research I have found references to them being called "white negroes" so I don't know. Can't really find a great source that discusses it.

Josef bugman posted:

It's always one of my favorite stories of during the Qing dynasty over in China there was a general who had served under them who was "han" but he asked if they could change his race so that he and his heirs didn't have to pay as much tax. The Emperor himself went "Sure, why not!" and just changed it. It's absolutely brilliant to see how race is little more than a concept at certain points.

Which is just another added layer of stupidity to so-called "race realists."

"Our racism is scientific guys, we swear! There are totally objective racial groups! :byodood:"

lozzle fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 1, 2016

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Grundulum posted:

Speaking of irresponsible, the only mention of Farage's current ties to the Trump campaign is a single article on the Guardian that is a flat denial of involvement? At least wait until he's made the flight across the Atlantic before coming to that conclusion, or for another source to pick up the story.

That's a revision. The original article stated that he had already made the flight.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Night10194 posted:

What in God's name has been wrong with the NYT this cycle? They specifically seem to have been performing well below their norm.

something something Maureen Dowd something something Judith Miller

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

mandatory lesbian posted:

see, this is what you're encouraging, who wants to read this crap

What the gently caress is wrong with you?

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot
If you are a single-issue voter and that issue is video games you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Apraxin posted:

See also Roldan v. Los Angeles, where the state of California spent years trying to prove Filipinos were 'of the Mongoloid race' rather than 'the Malay race' because a Filipino man and a white lady wanted to get married, and interbreeding with 'Mongoloids', specifically, was unacceptable.

(Spoiler: the time between the state Supreme Court refusing to dispute the lower court ruling that Filipinos were in fact 'Malays' and the state amending the law to add white-Malay marriage to the list of illegal unions was approx. one week.)

Sometimes I hate America.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

AceOfFlames posted:

Thiel/Luckey 2016

Meanwhile Mark Cuban primaries Hillary in 2020 and chooses George Soros as his running mate.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot
"Ironic racism" is the real racism.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Josef bugman posted:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/stop-whining-about-false-balance-w440228

This seems like a very weird story from Matt Taibbi, anyone want to come in with thair take?

Hot take: "journalists" (if you can call whatever the New York Times and CNN does "journalism") are still worthless and should be gulag'd when this election is finally over.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I spent too long looking at the crotch of that anime woman trying to figure out how they removed her "vagina bones" and then I realized they meant hips

:same:

Self-described "gamers" make me embarrassed to play video games.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Ravenfood posted:

The vagenda of manocide is real! I won't stand for this erasure of white men in our society.

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for male children.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

drilldo squirt posted:

What kind of person would have this on display? I'm genuinely curious.

Patrick Bateman

Also Donald Trump Jr.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

BigRed0427 posted:

I will say this about Gamergate. It really served as a wake up call for me on this front.

Never let your hobbies define your entire personality, especially when it involves corporate products.

Gamergate was as much about video games as Voter ID laws are about voter fraud.

That poo poo was just pure, unbridled misogyny.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Volcott posted:

Nintendo took the witch touching minigame out of Fire Emblem, time to protest in the streets.

I googled this.

I don't know what I was expecting.

:wtc:

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Also every horror and suspense film ever. I had to stop watching police procedurals when I realized all of them are about uncritically celebrating the intersection of eroticism and violence

Hey now, The Wire is technically a police procedural. :colbert:

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

idiotsavant posted:

dem bones dem bones dem vagiiiiiiina bones

now hear the word of the lord

your vagina bone connected to your, thigh bone

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Inferior Third Season posted:

Everyone's opinions are always equally valid, guys. So, shut up.

Is global warming a scientific fact or a Chinese hoax? Who knows!

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I just remembered that time they tried to spin people upset about video games featuring the sexual objectification of children by calling them "neo-puritans"

You're just intolerant of Japanese culture!

Also ephebophilia is totally different from pedophilia!

These statements are completely unrelated.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Pirate Radar posted:

Well if you're very reductionist--and after all it's easy to be very reductionist--then it's censorship, and censorship is supposed to be Bad, so therefore this is bad. It's not hard to see it from either perspective.

Is it?

This is by far the most annoying pervasive opinion on Reddit.

Like I don't think anybody really noticed but I posted an article in the last thread about an rear end in a top hat who dressed up in a gorilla suit and passed out bananas tied with nooses to members of a Black Lives Matter rally and got arrested for it.

Reddit's hot take? "Doesn't he have first amendment rights? :byodood:"

edit: In case anyone's interested in the article.

lozzle fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 1, 2016

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

iospace posted:

If you thought that Trump would fill his cabinet with anything but his cronies, I don't know what to tell you other than you're dumb.

In all fairness to Antti, it is conceivable that Trump is so dumb that he could be manipulated by the Republican establishment to do pretty much whatever they want.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Antti posted:

I definitely didn't expect Doctor Bornstein to become Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Well of course not. He's gonna be Surgeon General, dummy. :downs:

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Paradoxish posted:

You guys are being really unfair to this article, or just not reading the whole thing, or... I don't know what, exactly.

Taibbi is absolutely right that the current state of the media exists because it's what people want.

Like, there's a whole thread in this forum right now discussing this exact issue. Journalism is dying because you can't fund a polished and flashy 24/7 news network on investigative journalism. You can't even fund a lovely online news magazine with it. The problem isn't that journalists aren't doing their jobs, it's that the job they're being paid to do isn't real journalism.

"The people complaining about "false balance" usually seem confident in having discovered the truth of things for themselves, despite the media's supposed incompetence. They're quite sure of whom to vote for and why. Their complaints are really about the impact that "false balance" coverage might have on other, lesser humans, with weaker minds than theirs. Which is not just snobbish, but laughably snobbish. So, shut up."

Yeah no this poo poo is dumb and the author of it is dumb.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Paradoxish posted:

You saw that Taibbi literally calls Donald Trump "one of the dumbest people on the planet" two paragraphs below that quote, right? He's not making a truth-is-in-the-middle argument. The snippet you're quoting is talking about the motivations of people who complain about false balance, not the merits of it.

Well uh it they have merit then maybe their motivation is actually that it's loving true.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Paradoxish posted:

Holy poo poo, dude.

The point is that Taibbi isn't arguing in favor of false balance. In fact, the entire article is a condemnation of it. What he's (correctly) arguing against is the blame that's placed on journalists. They are doing their jobs. Their job is to create content that makes money for the company that employs them. If you don't like that, then find a way to get people to actually pay for investigative journalism.

So are we just gonna ignore the paragraph where he says people complaining about false balance are bad and should feel bad?

Because that's exactly what the paragraph I quoted says.

lozzle fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 1, 2016

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Sacramento police try to run over mentally ill homeless man, when that fails they get out and shoot him 14 times.


Jesus gently caress, there's going to be some loving Olympics class spinning to try to justify this.

#BlueLivesMatter :byodood:

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

SSNeoman posted:

http://www.snopes.com/alicia-machado-adult-star/

So this (admittedly sorta :nws:) is all the "sex tape" is about. It's pretty :flaccid:

I've also heard that it's about her having sex under blankets on a reality TV show (which may or may not have occurred, because blankets). Scandalous.

Meanwhile Trump had a cameo appearance in a softcore porn.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Cubans. :hawksin:

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lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot
The New York Times actually did a journalism? :aaaaa:

I didn't think this week could get any better. Wow.

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