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Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Sharkopath posted:

There are dinosaur specimens described on only very partial pieces of skeletons, but scientists are able to make educated conjecture on whether it is a new species or not by comparing it to similar fossils we have, usually because those fossils usually aren't just a jawbone, it's pieces of jawbone, some of the hip and then teeth and such. If they are similar enough to another species it's easy enough to extrapolate they belonged to a similar animal.

If they are too different from known fossils but still have the traits of a certain group it's usually just illustrated as one until we have more complete evidence to work from, placeholder reconstructions.

Extrapolation isn't guesswork

Conservatives think science is a collection of arbitrary definitive statements instead of a continually-refined set of approximations because they can't imagine ever questioning what you know and changing your mind based on new evidence.

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Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Rookersh posted:

Seattle. Minimum was $9, now $12 ( will be $15 soon. ). You average about $5 more per day in tips ( honestly more if you work in a good shop, but I'm counting bad shops here. ).

Servers get an even better deal, and usually average between $8-$12 a day in tips on top of their wages.

The one bartender I actually know that lives here averages $30ish, and she's only been at it for two years. But that has huge burnout just due to being a bartender.

It HEAVILY depends on the state/area though. As Endorph said, it might not be quite the way out for some thanks to lovely bosses doing illegal poo poo. Also quite a few states allow businesses to pay their employees up to minimum counting tips which doesn't allow the gain.

The irony is the people I work with are all severe alcoholics, so while they are making the $18-$25 range, they still can't pay rent because they spend so much of it on booze and drugs. Same with all the servers I know. Getting livable wages per paycheck doesn't seem to stop people from living beyond their means very well.

Your math doesn't make any sense. A five-hour day at $9 is $45, plus $5/day in tips is $50 a day. That's poverty wages.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:

How much is that Obama getting older vs being president?

Answering this question will be the headline of Julian Castro's 2024 presidential bid.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Trevor Hale posted:

This is not true. A bunch of buildings have their own ZIP code.

One of them is the Focus on the Family campus, if anybody's looking for locations for their next horror movie

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Its also worth noting that Carly Fiorina is depicted as a man to make her seem strong and Biden is depicted as a woman to make him seem weak

People say that every time that cartoon is posted, but if you look, he gave Fiorina a narrower butt to indicate the graceful feminine haunch of the lady conservative

RevKrule posted:

Diamond Joe has weighed in about the PTSD comments and to say he's not pleased is an understatement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0nZt1Rtps

Jesus christ, Diamond Joe made me burst into tears. "How many times does that kid go to sleep?"

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:

He said 20 suicides a month and then immediately followed by calling Trump uninformed. It's 22 per DAY.

Well that's loving horrible.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

bird cooch posted:

Im a vet with friends who have killed themselves and I had too look it up to belive it.


"In 2013, the United States Department of Veterans Affairs released a study that covered suicides from 1999 to 2010, which showed that roughly 22 veterans were committing suicide per day, or one every 65 minutes."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_veteran_suicide

What would you recommend from a policy standpoint to combat this? Obviously "unfuck the VA" and improve our foreign policy so we aren't inflicting what somebody smart in here once described as a "moral injury" on our vets, but what else would you like to see?

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

My totally crazy idea is to fund VA armories. If you're a veteran and you have a gun, you're entitled to a secure gun locker to store any personally owned firearms, no questions asked.

The only catch is that once you store one, you have to schedule an appointment no less than one week in advance to get them back out.

This of course doesn't fix everything, but suicide is an impulsive act. This buys people time.

I'm really strongly in favor of community armories, gun safes, anything that puts even a trivial barrier between suicidal thoughts and pulling the trigger - but do you think people would voluntarily use them?

My big idea could dovetail into yours, kind of a halfway house transitional step between being in the structured, high-stress environment of the military and being at loose ends in the community at large. Some time with a support structure of people who had similar experiences to you, career/education/financial planning, establish a physical and mental health care plan, and a "home base" of people who already know you that you can turn to if things ever go bad in any aspect of your life. A decompression chamber.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

sharkbomb posted:

No one would use a community armory-- the point of having a firearm in your home (for a lot of people) is that it is readily available if some crazy poo poo goes down in an emergency. Just spitballing, I'm not a gun owner.

Yeah, that's what I figure. Unfortunately people use that same logic to oppose gun safes and trigger locks and anything that would make it harder for a suicidal person or curious toddler to do something irreversible.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

The one in the picture, or the one I had?
Because I'm open to it being bad, but worst ever?

Your idea isn't the worst ever, it's something I actually did for real once and it worked out great. I used to work with a program that put male mentors in pre-k/elementary after school arts programs and we actively recruited vets. There's some care you have to take in placement - people who get overly tense at the sound of small children crying are better off staying out of the pre-k rooms. The kids idolized the vets, the vets loved showing off random non-military skills they had like being able to draw Bart Simpson really really well, and there was a lot of hugging and kids treating the guys like human jungle gyms, which was therapeutic in a low-key, non-clinical way for all involved.

And to circle back to rent control chat for a second, one thing that people never talk about is that rent control is a whole suite of protections beyond the price of rent. In California there are very rigid standards for evicting rent control tenants, and certain circumstances (no-fault evictions) can even require the landlord to pay the tenant's relocation fees. Rent control is the only defense low and even middle-income people have against abusive, neglectful, or predatory landlords. There's a lot more at stake there than just money.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

That's the signal, gang. For Soros!

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
NASA announcements are rad as hell tho

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
Who are the least awful Republicans now?

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

NikkolasKing posted:

I personally believe Hillary is merely ambitious but even if she truly does care about some of the issues she champions, her campaign didn't do her any favors by playing up the "sex card." A lot of women probably opposed Hillary for the simple fact they were expected to vote for a woman. "Break through that glass ceiling and gently caress the actual issues you care about."

Everything about this is just awful. Please be less awful, or be awful further away from me.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

NikkolasKing posted:

I said I respected him for trying to fight the Religious Right.


You don't remember what Albright said?

And it isn't hard to find women who were voting for Bernie and how shocked it made Hillary's campaign. There are several easily found articles on the subject.

Lol I somehow missed your respect for the guy who wanted everyone of my race in jail or dead. You're human garbage and you'll get no more attention from me. Go to stormfront, filth.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

VikingofRock posted:

While we are on the topic of respectable republicans, is there any reason George H.W. Bush is terrible? He's one of the first people to come to mind when I thought about the question.

My other nominee for this is Ainsley Hayes.

I fuckin' haaaaaate Ainsley Hayes. She is the Sorkin-est of all Aaron Sorkin's cartoon-voiced terminally foot-in-mouth "smart" female characters who exist only for male characters to sexually harass and talk down to. One of the male leads recited her resume while walking really fast down a hallway so that means she's got agency.

Most of all I hate Studio 60, for having all of Sorkin's worst writing tics turned to 11, making me notice them and retroactively ruining West Wing and Sports Night.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Zerilan posted:

Right, Hillary as Secretary of State is the reason Trans people are able to put their preferred gender on passports without needing surgery first, and the UN stating that "LBGT rights are human rights."

But she's an icky girl so...

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

NikkolasKing posted:

I'm gonna go watch The Choice now like was recommended to me. It looks interesting but it's long and I guess I'll be gone a while. Thank you for not all jumping down my throat. I don't mind being corrected when I'm wrong but dogpiling turns everyone off I think, right or wrong.

Maybe we should follow in the footsteps of your political hero and sic literal dogs on you next time.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Artificer posted:

Please explain your thought process where you stated that you don't like Hillary and hoped that Assange had a bomb to drop on her reputation, and yet at the same time you want the best for your gay/transgender friends.

His thought process is that he's racist misogynist trash and he eats attention for food. If the spelling were worse I'd assume Trump figured out how to open Chrome on his phone.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Artificer posted:

Someone else posted that he was posting in good faith. He might be...terribly misinformed. But let's see if he can walk us through his thought process.

No gently caress that, there's no such thing as "good faith" bigotry.

Artificer posted:

Edit: I don't hold a lot of confidence that he isn't a troll, but sure let's give this one thing a shot.
I don't think he's a troll, I think he's sincerely and openly a bigoted shitstain.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Stereotype posted:

I think Libya is actually the shining moment of Obama/Clinton foreign policy. If we were as isolationist as Johnson or Trump wants to be there would be a massacre worse than that in Syria and we'd still have Gaddafi. If we were more interventionist like Bush 2 we would have another thousand dead GIs and a government that was being constantly undermined and attacked for being created by the US government.

It wasn't a good situation, there weren't any perfect solutions, but the only thing most people remember is that four Americans died in a wild feverish conspiracy.

I have no idea how to reconcile things like this with my opposition to the death penalty. I sincerely wish we'd taken Bin Laden alive and put him on trial, but maybe I'm naive. What would that trial even have been, could it possibly have been fair, would there have been any verdict but death at the end of it anyway.

I don't want to live in a country that assassinates anyone, but the more I learn about foreign policy the more I realize there are decisions my understanding couldn't possibly be adequate to make.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Roland Jones posted:

I think most Bernie or Bust people were anti-establishment rather than leftist, a few (major assholes and hypocrites) aside. And, again, I think a lot probably cooled off since the primary ended. At the least, I did, and while I wasn't full Bernie or Bust I, as stated before, was considering not voting since my state's guaranteed blue anyway, before I realized that that was dumb and my vote isn't sacred or special or anything.

Any Bernie supporters who really are leftists and aren't idiots are still voting Hillary, even if it may have taken them a little while to calm down after the primary. The ones who aren't weren't leftist to begin with, and/or are huge misogynists. Which, well. '08 saw things like HillaryIs44, and according to polls and whatnot fewer Bernie supporters have gone Trump compared to '08 Hillary supporters going McCain. It's not that bad, it's just that the assholes are loud and annoying and the ones who aren't terrible are already boosting Hillary or just staying quiet, so you notice them more and remember them after the fact.

There was some really vile racism running through the die-hard Hillary camp back in '08, though I don't blame her for it. I remember a conversation with this horrible baby boomer woman who gave me the one-two punch of "you're only voting for Obama because you're black" and "it's okay for me to say stuff like that because my parents invited a black person to our house in the sixties."

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

NikkolasKing posted:

Let me ask you this. If Trump became president, do I genuinely need to worry for the safety of my gay friends? I know some of you are saying I'm a troll but if there is a real chance the alarmism about Trump is genuine, I will absolutely make sure to vote for Clinton. My word may not be much but I mean it.

Yes. Trump told Mike Pence he could be the shadow president and make all the policy decisions. I know that sounds insane, but it's true. Mike Pence is a frothing homophobe who supports things like gay conversion therapy, which is literal torture, and abusive laws like the bathroom bill which give the police free reign in arresting and brutalizing LGBTQ people. A Trump(pence) presidency would also get to appoint at least one supreme court justice, which could mean the repeal of gay marriage and a loss of many other rights for LGBTQ people. This is a serious threat. A Republican win this year would make the country measurably less safe for everyone who isn't a straight white christian man.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
Also to reiterate, Trump wants to enact nationwide stop and frisk, which will guarantee countless deaths of black men.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
Since I don't trust Goldwater here to click links, let me just spell out that one of the many things that gay conversion therapy does is attempt to create a pavlovian sense of aversion to homosexual arousal. Imagine being forced to view porn until you became erect and then tortured, physically tortured, until you associate that agony with arousal and lose your ability to enjoy sex.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Instant Sunrise posted:

There's a decent chance that HB2, RFRA or a similar law is going to end up before the supreme court in the next few years. There's also employment protections for trans people that are in a weird legal gray area after Macy v. Holder and PriceWaterhouse v. Hopkins which has a non-zero chance of a case ending up in the supreme court.

so yes it's important.

Have any trans groups put together a BLM-style list of policy goals?

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Majorian posted:

That's really what it is. If you go back and look at the things Bernie said, he didn't do much to rile the crazy Clinton-haters up. His criticisms of her were pretty lukewarm overall. The people who are still virulently Bernie-or-Bust are, for the most part, just nutballs who hate Clinton.

I honestly think some of the nutball contingent can be traced back to Hillary being first lady when they were kids and thus always lingering in their minds as America's Mom. You can't tell ME what to do, Mom.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Instant Sunrise posted:

lambda legal and transgender law center have yeah

Ah, exactly what I need. Thank you!

Majorian posted:

Which is amazing, because if anyone deserves that, it's Tipper Gore.

Man I hated her so much when I was a kid, but I googled her recently and was pleasantly surprised. She's a major LGBTQ rights activist and does a lot of other nice things these days. You're all right, Tip.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Instant Sunrise posted:

dubya of all people has mellowed on lgbt issues, and even offered to officiate a gay wedding.

G.Dubs strikes me as someone who could have been a completely different person in another life. I'm not mad at Michelle for the hug photo. I think he really may not be the man he was when he was Cheney's puppet.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Nichael posted:

he or she

Come on now

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Star Man posted:

Anyone who turned eighteen this year was born in the same year that the Lewinsky scandal broke.

gently caress, I was in fifth grade when that happened.

God I pity the world's middle school teachers when that story broke. Tryna do a nice unit about civics and now you gotta explain what a blowie is

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
I played the role of Bill Clinton in my social studies class's mock presidential debate and worked really hard on my impression of him. I really liked doing the fist-thumb thing and saying "I'ma build a bridge" with the lip bite. And then some dumb kid got mad at me being picked because "there's no such thing as a girl president." Who's laughing now, Bryce.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

FilthyImp posted:

Alternately, he's shrewd enough to realize his caricature of "dumb bumbling buffoon puppeteered by Emperor Palpatine" grants him enough folksy cover to be let off the hook as long as he does a bunch of "Normal guy" poo poo.

Like paint bad pictures.

To be really honest I suspect his new cuddly demeanor is brain damage from the alcoholism relapse. I dunno I just don't feel that white-hot hate for him anymore. There's too much going on in the present.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Neo_Crimson posted:

Elementary school maybe, but pretty much every middle school kid knows what a blowjob is, and probably giggling their asses off.

Are you younger than me maybe? Kids' level of sexual knowledge was really really different before internet porn really got off the ground. I was in sixth grade in 1996 and even though we were cool city kids only the ones with older siblings got even close to guessing what the adults were so upset about.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Queering Wheel posted:

I like how they made the Clinton text crooked. Very subtle.

It just makes her look jaunty.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Star Man posted:

Oi. I was thirteen when Dubya was elected and I have no memory about the Clinton administration aside from the 1996 election and the Lewinsky scandal.


I'm two or three years younger than you are and I was the last kid on earth to finally understand why I was always laughed at for answering "no" to the question "are you a virgin?" in 1996.

Are... are you PT? :haw:

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Covok posted:

What America needs is mass education reform and the death of all those hyper conservative local stations spewing propaganda as fact.

Sometimes I fantasize about getting improbably rich and just buying them up and turning out the lights, one by one. Or slowly turning them left-wing, so subtly the listeners don't notice.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Young Freud posted:

I believe that we would have destroyed Syria's remaining air power installed a no-fly zone after Ghouta and bomb ISIS if Hillary was still Secretary of State. It would have been better than sit back and let ISIS fester and then have the Russians come in and control the narrative. Of course, it's suspected that the reason we didn't go after Assad following Ghouta was because of the Iran nuclear deal, but, I don't know, it continually feels like that was the moment of truth in Syria and that it wouldn't have gotten as bad as it is now and we blew it.


Part of me hopes that post-Ailes :foxnews: will turn into this. The Murdochs sees the openly conservative brand as a loser and retools it into a tabloid cable news station.

Newscorp is having a ton of internal instability that hasn't quite become public yet. Murdoch Sr. is bowing out and dictatorships aren't known for smooth transfers of power. The studios already hemorrhaged their experienced people, and while I don't have as much personal insight into the news division, I strongly suspect Ailes only got brought down now because the fortress is crumbling. The local affiliates will probably be fine, but I'm expecting the national news to look really different in a year or two.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax


Lol at this Sysco garbage. If Bernie's a millionaire he's bad at it.

Relatedly, lol at the DC restaurant scene in general


Edit: Oh man they want you to print out and fax a credit card form for a reservation. The Granddaddest restaurant.

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Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Sorry we were unable to confirm your reservation. We ran out of hours and our grandson said he didn't have any more AOL CDs.

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