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I'm hoping you guys can help me confirm how debuffs work/stack. I normally run with Ramza (Shout) using full break. I also have Vaan with his Burst and Faris with their Burst (both are debuffs). Finally I just drew Noel's debuff Burst. Do all of these stack? Is it insane to run with all of these at once?
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:All attacks that debuff the same stat array don't stack. In your case, full break, faris's burst, and noel's burst are all the same debuff (atk/mag/def/res) and will not stack, so you should probably ditch full break and use either Faris or Noel as situation demands, giving them one of your start-with-SB RMs. Vaan's burst is mag/def which is unique and what makes it so nutty, so it stacks with just about anything. His commands are identical to magic breakdown and defense breakdown, and will not stack with those. Faris and Noel's commands are -ATK and -MAG, and the MAG ones will not stack with Vaan's -MAG command. Ah okay, thank you for the clarification. So, if I understand correctly I can stack either Faris or Noel's burst with Vaan's. Then the followup commands that are given would also stack, as long as they aren't the same type. Not quite as OP as I was hoping, but still pretty cool. I have been running Faris with Box Step Sarabande, so that would stack, but only if I don't use a different Def down attack. So, theoretically the best combination could be: Faris-Box Step, Vaan-Burst, Faris-Burst, Faris-atk down, Vaan-mag down. Or if Noel is a better character/fit: Vaan-Burst, Noel-Burst, Noel-atk or mag down, Vaan-def down
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I managed to beat the ult with a really odd team: Pretty standard for me: Ramza -full break and shout - lvl 90 Vaan - BSB - lvl 99 Arc - Shell and curaga -instant medica ssb - lvl 80 My attempt at wind damage: Luneth - lvl 80 -died in first three turns, effectively did nothing Cid - lifesiphon and Imperial wind ssb - lvl 66 (lol) RW - Zidane's BSB used with Ramza I don't understand how my level 80 Luneth died almost immediately and a level 66 Cid makes it til the end, especially with only Shell as damage mitigation.
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The people who know things posted:Luneth's Resistance That does partially explain the  Cid still only had 3 more Res, not counting gear. Oh well, neither of them is on my A team unless I need wind damage, now I know to gear Luneth for Res!
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MannersPlease posted:Is there much of a difference between BSB's? I found that fenrir overdrive would carry me through the 60 stamina orbfest dungeon, but refreshing wandering dudes can be extremely tedious sometimes. As long as I pair a magic on a magic character or an attack on a attack character, will I see comparable damage and have an infinite aoe attack regardless of which burst I bring along? Or are there some I should avoid? For the orbfest dungeon it won't make much/any difference, but some are better/worse for harder content. Ideally you want to be grabbing one that inflicts the element a boss is weak to, or inflicts breakdown effects on a boss, in my experience.
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Last night I was up late and for some reason I just felt good about pulling on FFT. I had just hit 30 mythril, so I spent 12 dollars to do the pull. 4/11 2x Orlandeau OSB 1x Orlandeau BSB 1x Venetian Shield The moral of this story is to wait until you are just feeling really good about pulling.
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Consistent bad luck in luckies. I willingly trade this for good luck on TGCid and Anniversaries. Debating about a pull on 8 still... I should have enough mythril left for anniversary if I just make one pull.
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Sprite141 posted:Well no, both banners have really good poo poo on them that I'd like. I might end up pulling on 2 though, for a shot at Raine's bsb and sarah's buff. I think I'll wait to see the ffii event's banners though. I did 3 pulls on XIII banner 1, as I really wanted all of the bursts. I ended up with Sazh and Vanille's bursts, which have both been awesome so far. I have Noel's burst from a previous draw and I don't use it that frequently, but your team composition may vary of course, I have a lot of debuff relics. If it helps here is the next XIII event's banners (early July) shamelessly stolen from Reddit: quote:P1: I am personally planning on a couple of draws on banner 1, as it seems really solid for my remaining needs.
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Sprite141 posted:I kinda feel like I'd rather pull on these banners than those, by far. Ah well, sitting on my rear end and not pulling has yet to not pay off so I guess I'll do just that then. Good luck! Let us know how it goes! I'm not sure what EXP is for the new dailies, but the 90 stamina orbfest has given out about 100k without any cactaurs, and Highest Possible XP (from three waves of Mini-Cactuar): 291,660
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My Burst Lucky was... not. 1/11 PCecil's burst. I have all the holy team members I need, he can go sit in the corner. Mostly posting this so I can quote when I go PCecil/11 on the Ultros. Edit: Total for lucky banners: 4/33 PCecil BSB Bartz Cloak (Dupe) Penelo Holy Rod (Dupe) Ysh's BSB 
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Draw update: I had 4 draws available for anniversary and decided banner 2 and 4 were my targets. Banner 2: 2/11 Yuna BSB and Zell SSB. I felt alright about this and was going to save 3 draws for banner 4, until I felt lucky. Don't believe your feelings. 1/11 Zell SSB Positive Edit: The next two batches of MC3s are going to be great! I am looking forward to high level Cid's to RW, plus the following batch has Sazh, Raijin, and Shadow for my own use. Full list for next: Matoya, Josef, Dark Knight Cecil, Exdeath, Setzer, Yuffie, Irvine, Quina, Wakka, Basch, Raines And next month's: Emperor, Edward, Palom, Porom, Shadow, Cyan, Kefka, Cid (VII), Reno, Vincent, Laguna, Fujin, Raijin, Steiner, Freya, Kimahri, Paine, Larsa, Sazh, Noel Oryp fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Congrats to those getting the resurrected goods! I did a cash pull on Banner 2 and ended up with Krille's BSB, which is alright since I have sheepsong, but not great as I have plenty of fire magic damage already. I was really hoping for one of the 6 other relics that would have been better heh.
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Zonko_T.M. posted:Picked up OK's BSB on a 1/11 pull. That is definitely something I can live with. I specifically don't want OK BSB for this reason; I love Sazh's BSB. I shoehorn it into as many teams as I can, since it is ranged, buff, and breakdowns. He is getting his MC3 in a few weeks!
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I just wanted to share that I managed to solo the 240 Mandragora raid before it went away today. It was definitely one of the most challenging things I've managed to beat. I had to use hit and run to build gauge, but Vaan's reverse wall, ysh wall/heals, Agrias' AOE holy imperil, TG Cid, and Ramza pulled it off. After beating that I decided to pull on the last lucky I was holding off on, Support. I drew one Ultra disco and was extremely pleased to see that it was Faris!
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For Raijin BSB with Cloud USB RW, how about: BSB -> cmd 1 x4 -> Cloud USB RW -> BSB -> cmd 1 x2 -> cmd 2 Just thinking this would give the second BSB entry damage under the USB, then still have time to get off the face melting cmd 2. Or would you still be better using the RW right before cmd 2? Also, why is a high potency skill better than an enelement burst? Wouldn't the additional hits work out to more damage?
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I have been anxiously awaiting this banner for months, so I was really happy to see it come early. I didn't want to spend more than 3 11x pulls, ideally 2; but I wanted nearly everything, everything except for Serah's Bow. Dollar: 3 star 1st 11x pull: 2 Bows.... Alright, now I'm a bit mad, so I immediately pull again: Lightning USB, Nabaat's SSB, and another bow I was extremely happy to get the USB, but I still wanted enough of the banner to risk another pull: Cid's BSB and Seraph's Wing SSB I finally have Raines to complete my mage meta, just missing a couple of elemental pieces to feel pretty well covered. LMRs and the other BSBs would have been nice, but I'm still happy. For Cid, with those two soulbreaks, is it worth it to wrath into Seraph's Wing and then Dark Zone into the BSB? Or just take doom (RM, or memento mori I guess) and then go straight into BSB? Oryp fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I did, but my 13 synergy is pretty nuts. Ended up using: I ran something similar for the CM, except I have Noel's BSB instead of Fang's! I was actually surprised when I took it down with mastery on my first attempt. I doubt that will be possible on many of them, but I have a lot of XIII synergy.
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All of those banners are terrible for me, but I am honestly glad to be able to skip them. I will do luckies and save for better event banners. I have my eye on the first X banner coming up, in particular.
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Eight-Six posted:As someone who's been playing for about 11 days and has 83-odd mythril, is my best bet for the next few weeks to hit up the 25mythril lucky banners just to grab as many relics as possible or is there something so amazingly devastating in those fest banners that I don't realize? I would pull on each of the luckies, and then I would pull on fest banners as you are able to do so. If it wasn't for all the dupes I would be all over banner 1 in particular, but all of them have some great gear.
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1/11 - Dupe Holy Rod, my third at least so hooray for stat sticks?
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Daraken posted:How good is the Lightning USB + BSB2 combo? I have the former and I'm trying to figure out how good Banner 3 will be for me. I have her USB, and I RW'd the BSB2 for some premium fun times. I'd say it is a great combo, but if you have the hones on Thundering Twinstrike and the boss is already weak to lightning then it isn't as good/needed. Or maybe I'm just lying to myself because I really don't want to chase it.
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I had decided not to pull on the Phase 4 banner, but then I Rw'd Terra's USB and decided I had to try. One pull. Two orbs, one of them a disco ball. Oh poo poo. Dupe alph SSB, to make one max combined coat, and a loving magic sword! I can barely believe my luck, it is such a cool animation and I have her OSB!
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I'm still planning to do one pull on Cloud, but my main goal is the Rikku banner, since that has a lot of water and a bit of ice/earth/wind. Then I am saving pretty hard for the aforementioned Bartz/Faris banner, because it just looks absurd and I already have some stuff for each of them.
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I gave up on the three man team for the 300 difficulty torment, I was always running out of healing/defense or offense. Simply replacing Arc with Yshtola gave me an easy win. The rest of my team was: Ramza/Vaan/Refia/Luneth.
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I can make almost that exact same team, except without Chant. I will have to Legend dive Lightning soon, as I have her USB; but currently I'm holding onto motes in reserve for Faris, hoping the V event is soon. I did a partial dive on Agrias, to get the plus holy damage, as I've been farming the T Torment. The orbs aren't as useful but it is so drat fun. I setup buffs/debuffs, then Agrias en-holy SSB followed by two BSBs hitting for 40k-50k per hit per target. After which TGCid is setup with OSB->CloudUSB, so he can 15-20k per hit on his BSBx2 to finish off Belias.
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I'm excited that the V banner is starting the day before my birthday! I already have Faris' first USB and BSB, and I use her all the time, hoping to kit her out with LMR and USB2. Bartz has been great with "only" BSB2 and his en-wind SSB, so his kit being on the same banner makes it a fantastic target for me.
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Oryp posted:I'm excited that the V banner is starting the day before my birthday! I already have Faris' first USB and BSB, and I use her all the time, hoping to kit her out with LMR and USB2. Bartz has been great with "only" BSB2 and his en-wind SSB, so his kit being on the same banner makes it a fantastic target for me. Quoting myself for context. I did two pulls right after it came out, got just about everything except Faris USB/LMR. Decided to do a cash pull just after midnight.  Total haul: 11/34 1x Faris USB 1x Bartz USB 1x Bartz BSB3 1x Dorgann BSB 1x Bartz BSB2 1x Bartz LMR 1x Dorgann SSB 2x Galuf SSB 2x Galuf SSB
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jebeebus posted:I have no self control. After getting Bartz' USB + LMR in one pull, I should've been content and kept stashing mythril. But after seeing for myself just how ridiculous he can be, it got into my head that it would be great to have a BSB as well... especially since I'm still newish and can't get a good set of honed spellblades for a while. Gratz! You managed to get the same items as me, with only one extra pull. :p I am legitimately still in disbelief about the 3 pulls I made. Also: Bartz did about 400k damage off a single BSB command to the FFX 300 Torment, with some help from Tidus Chain and Faris debuffs. (cloud rw op even on mega chains) Oryp fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Sep 3, 2017 |
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I was only going to do one pull, but I got Cecil's BSB2. I will only use his in CMs since I have plenty of good holy. Second pull was Edge SSB and Rosa USB! I think I might skip pulling on fest banners, maybe I can afford one pull outside of luckies.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Out of curiosity, why skip fest banners? Aren't they loaded with crazy relics and BSB+ only? Or do you just have a ton of dupes. I don't have much saved, and I have a lot of the top prizes already. I may pull once or twice depending on the banners we get.
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I decided not to even try for this week's MP given what I heard about it, not worth the frustration. I finally got around to trying my first magecite, took down liquid flame in about 50 seconds on my first attempt! Bartz USB/BSB2 and Tidus CSB/BSB had me confident. I'll dip my toes into the others in the coming week, that was a lot of fun!
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Cosmic Afro posted:Yeah, I made a googledoc of all my relics and I'm looking things over. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MUlVZ5DdNeiWCyH29PbkMiLqU1Z1q0ZgPeh08jnTDLc/edit#gid=0 Personally I went for Faris, as I have both USBs and BSB; otherwise I've gone for double casts I have good relics for: Cloud, Ysh, and Bartz so far. I'm currently debating on Cid Raines and Agrias, as those both seem solid. I don't have them, but Ayame looks great and with Noctis OSB/LMR you may consider his dive, if you want a nonelemental murder bot. As long as you are interested in investing the crystals for Omega Drive.
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Edit: Beaten about shelke. So far I have "only" beat Bismark, Sealion, and Liquid Flame. I think I should be able to do the others, just haven't tried too much yet. I am having a lot of fun with the magicite battles. My best time so far is 32 seconds on Sealion, with only one entruster! 
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Mischalaniouse posted:At the moment I just have one Wrath honed once. I'm pretty far behind on Abilities since grinding orbs is the worst. Luckily orb fest is coming up and you'll be swimming in orbs, well at least comparatively! Also, echoing that Rosa USB is amazing, I just got it recently and she has been on all of my teams for difficult content and incredibly clutch. Getting wrath up to R3 or R4 should be easy during orb fest! Her, Faris, and Edge could probably carry you through most content once you get them leveled, assuming you RW Shout or similar. I also just noticed you have Dorgann, who carries an Atk/Def buff to help! Which Bartz BSB did you get, if Earth those two will pair quite well together! Oryp fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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peekaboo gangster posted:My main issue is that I haven't found the right balance between the two - I'm either throwing up a good amount of damage at the cost of mitigation, or I'm able to keep everyone fairly healthy until the boss turns into a Imperil-Stacking Blender. Rosa has her SSB which can help MBlink me past the first Savage Elemental spell, but I'm not sure if I should flip Y'sh out for her. My Onion Knight is fairly blessed with his BSB - would it be worth it to try and hone up some ninja skills to make him into a damager? Otherwise he languishes as my Breakdown King, which are night useless in these dungeons. Again, I've got good fire options (including Terra's OSB) but the most headway I've been able to make has been against Hydra thanks to Bartz and his USB+BSB3 / Galuf BSB (it Imperils Fire, but also hits the Earth element, and god bless him it heals) / Maria's BSB (which can't crack 1K damage on first entry, but does respectable 2-3k a hit after the MAG/RES bargain), along with Ramza yelling his brains out and Y'sh doing her healing thing. I'm gonna give Sealion a shot in a little bit, and failing that, will attempt another CM 7 Torment (I can *taste* those Vitality motes, they're so close) I'm by no means an expert, with only half of the magicites cleared so far, but hopefully some part of the following will be of use to you!: I've been using Rosa as my only healer in magicites so far, admittedly with USB, but the wrathable heal/mblink is still key and I think better than the largely single target heals from Ysh. As for OK, you could try using ninja, but you would likely be better suited giving him wrath/entrust and dumping the extra into your main dps. All of my successful magicite teams have had either one or two entrusters. You could maybe give (for a physical team) either Ramza or OK a SB bar at the start, and have the other with a quick gain RM, have them both wrath/entrusting with any excess. So the above suggestions take up three slots, leaving you with either 2 dps, or 1 dps and another supporter of some kind, maybe a source of last stand, imperil, or extra heals? Another random note, Alph SSB has been nice for some extra damage, if you weren't using OK BSB as your hastega. Also nice since he can be geared as a secondary healer pretty easily.
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Edit: ^ I don't have Vincent, but how much is he doing for you? What is your pre-buff attack on Bartz? Also, I use Faris a lot and like to put TG Mode RM on her, so she can spam out all the debuffs faster. I usually use (buffs)-> Bartz BSB -> Cloud USB -> Bartz USB -> BSB commands and I usually only get two, rarely three command uses before Cloud USB is out. Anyone have a better rotation? This seems pretty good, but I'm always looking to improve
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jebeebus posted:I never even thought of using Vincent until last minute, just assuming he'd be useless (Gi Nattak fire absorb) until I realized the whole either/or with non-elemental thing. After his USB, his BSB cast would do about 5-6K per hit, and BSB CMD2 doing about 5K per. He's my only good FF7 char at the moment. My pre-buff attacks on Bartz is pretty bad, something less than 2K I think. Sorry, I meant the attack stat, shown on the equipment screen pre battle, after equipping weapon, armor, etc. This is important due to the following, potentially too much information: The soft cap for attack is 805, so you want to get past 805 attack after buffs. Shout would give you a 1.5 multiplier to attack, the other stackable buffs are generally 1.3x to atk/mag or similar. Shout and any of the atk/mag buffs would give you 1.8x your character's attack with equipment. Burst mode and many USBs will increase it some as well. There is a lot that can go into damage buffing including separate, multiplicative damage through elemental boosting gear, 1.2x per piece. There are some guides out there with loads of details, but that at least is the basics I think. Mag is higher soft cap, 1054, buffs work the same way. Hope that helps! Vincent sounds like he is doing well, but I asked as for high end content it can sometimes be good to focus everything on supporting one DPS, although more can be better too depending on the fight/team. When a fight doesn't cost anything if you lose it is great to test out different team compositions.
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Gratz to all who have done well, those last two made me question posting mine! Only Rapha will see semi-regular use most likely, but I'm very happy!
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jjef posted:Hey guys, is now a good time to jump into this game or should I wait for a specific upcoming event or something? Also, is there any re-rolling involved when starting like in other games? Or can I just take whatever I'm given and go with it? Right now is a great time! Tomorrow evening we will be getting a free 30 pull, and I would highly, highly recommend trying to get 25 mythril before the "Always Lucky Relic Draw" banner today goes away! It should be pretty easy if you watch your stamina and grind the basic dungeon (on the lower left) and the event dungeon on the lower right(start with FFT since it goes away tomorrow). Normally you have to spend 50 mythril for a draw, and right now if you get the 25 for today's lucky and tomorrows free draw you could have a fantastic start! There is also an orbfest going on, and you should be able to do the early stages at least. Post your relics when you draw for our thoughts/recommendations, make sure you unlock characters for the relics you have (you'll get Souls for your choice of character from the event dungeons). Join us on Discord, lots of helpful people hanging around usually!: https://discord.gg/sdX6zF Edit: I just realised the Lucky draw I mentioned goes away in a bit over an hour, so I hope you see this in time! Oryp fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Sep 24, 2017 |
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Looking for advice on optimizing my current wind murder squad, and help with selection relic choice: For selection relic: Onion Knight BSB or Zack's BSB? Anyone with Zack CSB/BSB have any thoughts? Current team: Cloud: USB/BSB2/LMR/full dive Zack: CSB Faris: USB2/USB/BSB/full dive Zidane: USB/BSB2 *healer* generally Ysh for wall/bsb/dive, or Rosa USB So, the only problem with the above is a lack of hastega, so I figured in most content I can RW Rikku USB, and in Magicites replace Faris, maybe with Edge. I'm just not sure who I could drop for OK BSB -> Wrath/Entrust if I chose him, any thoughts there? I figured if I had native haste as well I could RW an instacast like Ramza USB.
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