Tie-breaker for serial you'd most like to find an episode from This poll is closed. |
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The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve | 33 | 44.59% | |
The Highlanders | 41 | 55.41% | |
Total: | 74 votes |
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Jerusalem posted:I still think one of my favorite encapsulations of the Doctor as a character comes from The Beast Below I'm the Doctor, and basically all you need to know is...
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2016 04:48 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:57 |
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The A's got Doctor Who cancelled and caused an earthquake, so that'll be a hard one to top.
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2016 06:04 |
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So... halfway through Heroes of Sontar, and it's basically a Danger Mouse episode, isn't it? I just keep waiting for this music cue to show up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrfZ8ZIVNuI&t=362s
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2016 23:03 |
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Fil5000 posted:Heroes of Sontar is a great, silly story. In fact that run of Five/Nyssa/Tegan/Turlough is generally good fun. My only quibble (aside from the lack of Danger Mouse music) is that the Witch Guard () voice was completely unintelligible at the end. And I usually have no problem with BF voice modulaction. Still, WITCH GUARD CommonShore posted:When I grow up I want to stab someone with a spaceship
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2016 03:17 |
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Thank you for posting DWSS, I really need it right now. Here's the song I've been pairing with my DW avatars, and will be until I run out of Doctors or run out of lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9L0Jxzep1Y
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 03:33 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Nah, this isn't how it works. The natural numbers are (countably) infinite but there's only one "1", for example. Yeah, the CVE opened to universes that were separate, but not parallel. So Adric is from somewhere with its own unique history, not an alternate version of our own. Which would mean that other universes like the Inferno and Cybus one also have their own Adrics...
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2016 15:54 |
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Rhyno posted:Are we really going to have a dick-waiving contest over who made the worse move? The folks who came up with the archiving policy at the BBC.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2016 03:50 |
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CobiWann posted:Kind of a ...weird? Dumb?...question, but how prevalent were fascist/anti-fascist themes in 60's British science fiction? It was kind of a perfect storm, depending on where in the decade you're talking about. Mon 'n' Dad would have seen everything first hand, and later on you can see the anti-authoritarianism when (mostly younger) people recognized similar things going on around them. Different medium, of course, but there's a reason Roger Waters chose the brownshirt/fascist/Nazi imagery in The Wall to represent authority figures in general. Have you been doing The Prisoner, Cobi? I haven't checked the thread in a while. EDIT - All right, new page. Let's turn this into the Prisoner Floyd thread! After The War fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Nov 15, 2016 |
# ¿ Nov 15, 2016 14:43 |
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CobiWann posted:What's The Prisoner? It's just some stupid 60s British show about an unnamed, extremely clever, anti-authoritarian iconoclast exiled from home and struggling against the forces of tyranny, oppression, and conformity. With a theme song by Ron Grainger. You probably wouldn't like it.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2016 22:49 |
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Also lapels. Lapels to the end of time! EDIT - It just occurred to me that, while we never got Patrick McGoohan as the Doctor or Bond (a role he famously turned down), Number Six was pretty much a perfect combination of the two. After The War fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Nov 16, 2016 |
# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 01:40 |
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Mawdryn also played on the concept of the companions (and viewers) being aware of the regeneration process, but not knowing how it works. Also VALENTINE DYALL. In short: Season 20
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2016 07:28 |
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Bicyclops posted:Part 2 is basically it was all a dream! We were just experiencing the thoughts of those during their last moments, and in the worst possible way. Yes, but with David Warner!
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2016 03:54 |
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Jerusalem posted:It also (sans The Three Companions) acts as a nicely self-contained story, there is no larger overarching narrative or longer season-arc going on. It's definitely a part of Hex's character arc, which is the big theme for this "season" or whatever you want to call these little clumps of consecutive stories. The good news is that it's all part of one of BF's best eras (that I've encountered). Just assume that everything is connected at this point, and go into each audio with the expectation that they're going to be playing in the universe they've built over the past 120 stories. Call it "serialized" if you have to, just... have some tissues ready. You'll know when.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 05:43 |
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah, that's fair. I guess it's a fairly typical Fifth Doctor problem, really, because Adric and Turlough have some similar issues. I do admit to getting pretty drat aggravated with how often the Fifth Doctor gets (gasp) the TARDIS stolen, so that he is stranded in time!! The first time, you have to give the TV show some credit for it, and Big Finish some credit for using the same plot point as an homage to the Doctor it belongs to, but sheesh! Turlough's worst is just running away until he screws up his courage and comes back to help, which is a far cry from some of the ridiculous crimes of Thomas Brewster. The Crimes of Thomas Brewster, though, has enough fun awkward time travel stuff for me to forgive it.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2016 05:41 |
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Oh drat, I'm working during the hours the Post Office is open, I'm sure my santee won't my if I enjoy their present in the meantime... (It's pretty drat cool, IMO)
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 04:40 |
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Jerusalem posted:It's all good man, like Bicyclops says there's not really any kind of spoiler policy for Big Finish since there is so much of it and everybody is listening to different parts of it at different times - I just try to play it by ear and avoid learning stuff I didn't get to yet and especially avoid giving away major stuff to those who haven't heard it yet. Our policy has always worked out to "if it's cool, keep it secret." I was roundly chastised for spoiling the villains in Seasons of Fear, even though it's on the Wikipedia page. And rightly so, the fact that Big Finish is lesser known (relatively speaking) means the Big Reveals haven't seeped into the popular consciousness. If you aren't reading ahead, you'll still get a chance to be surprised. None of that matters for pointless poo poo, of course. We'll openly whine about The Boy That Time Forgot, for instance, because any reaction to the Reveal will be at best. Jerusalem posted:Seriously, the wilderness years were loving horrible, especially if like me you were largely unaware (blissfully, in many cases) of the novel range. The flipside is that you had a lot of people trying to push the boundaries of what Doctor Who could be - Scherzo being the most obvious example. For me, one of the great things about Heaven Sent was the way it reminded me of that era. I bring it up because I re-read the DWM Cyberman series the other day. It went in some directions, but I really ended up enjoying it, especially when it gets all Alan Moore Swamp Thing towards the end. Here's the complete run. The early ones are pretty low-res, unfortunately, but the bigger images luckily coincide with things getting interesting. Some prime avatar material in there at any rate. It should be pointed out that these were intended to be read at a rate of a page a month, so each one is "...sometime later" leaving you to put together the intervening scenes.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 06:46 |
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Jerusalem posted:There's some delightfully weird stuff in there, this is probably the moment that stands out most to me though: What I love is that it combines stuff like this with showing aspects of (early) Cyber civilization, including cyberblimps. That panel in the last one scared the gently caress out of me as a kid, though.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 07:44 |
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Bicyclops posted:But enough about the 2005 revival Kids?! KIDS?!!!! MrL_JaKiri posted:This was true even in the original run; 26 years is a long time to be on the air.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2016 00:43 |
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Just don't forget NUM-LOCK Bad Math Dalek!
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 02:57 |
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Ms Boods posted:Having lived through the Peri years as they went out on transmission, and having a dad and loads of family from Balmer (Middle River, specifically, as well as olde schoole relatives from Baldymore City itself), I had no idea and would have never guessed she was meant to be from there. Yikes. You probably get this all the time (and hell, I do when I tell people I grew up in/near Landover), but I'm so sorry! I have to make the trek to Middle River every week for band practice since my singer moved out there. For those not experienced, this involves what I call the "695 Sanity Check", culminating in the hideous cyclopean visage of the Back River Wastewater Treatment Plant towering unspeakably over the highway. The good news is that it gave us our most recent album title and cover, which I have to explain to everyone from outside the area. Which is where we usually play. If you want a laugh, listen to The Reaping - for the ridiculous depiction of Baltimore (and Fell's Point in particular, which Lidster seems to think is a quaint neighboring suburb), of course, and not the especially Lidsterian misery porn.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 15:57 |
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vegetables posted:I really like The Reaping, even though nobody else does. It's the thing that made me want a proper Cyberman story about depression, which I can't quite believe still hasn't been done. Oh dear God yes, that's a thing we need. The very definition of flat affect, body forced to keep moving through external means... Would have to get an excellent* writer to handle it, though. * No, I did not do that on purpose. But speaking of 80s, Who.... Looks like someone wants to encourage my early JNT obsession! Thanks Cobi! You know what I like!
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 22:12 |
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vegetables posted:I can't think of any Who story which seriously considers that the Cybermen might have a point, and might be better at being civilised than we are. I think that could be done really well, as monsters that want to change who and what you are are much scarier if there's a sense that they're right to do so. Spare Parts probably comes closest (the augmentation process was originally to zzzzurviiiive, after all), but self-determinacy is the closest thing Doctor Who has to a consistent morality. After all, every alien invader has considered themselves more "civilized" than a humanity that needs to be uplifted, eliminated, or used as raw resources. We've done every one of those things ourselves, and Doctor Who is very much informed by that colonial history. Even if someone chooses at first the undergo process, the nature of cyberconversion ensures they will never be able to make their own decisions again. If it was merely bodily upgrades without the identity loss, it wouldn't be the Cybermen. (But you should read the comics I posted earlier, they're the closest thing I've seen to telling something from the Cyber-Viewpont.)
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2016 16:56 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The last series has two of the best stories of the whole run It's also so consistent that I don't even have a comedy answer for which ones, unlike nearly every other season of the series.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2016 02:01 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:Steve Lyons' Killing Ground. An MA, but published by Virgin back when they had the licence. Thank you. I remember reading about that in DWM when it first came out, but haven't been able to figure out which book it was.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 15:12 |
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LordZoric posted:Man if I was
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 23:44 |
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I hope my gift made it to my Santee okay. When I sent it, it said "Me? I'm allowed everywhere!" and jumped into a slot intended for (I believe) much lighter packages.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 07:14 |
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McGann posted:It did! You made some awesome choices by the way, and oddly enough I didn't even watch Doctor Who when I made my username, it was just a happy accident. Oh good! I wanted to try and cover a form of Who you might not have tried yet, and hope I didn't spoil it too much with my 90s comics posts of late.The monochrome art is gorgeous, though, isn't it? BTW, there's a great story in there about how DWM made the writer remove a subplot about people the Time Lords had erased from history. Which worked out for the best, since he was able to adapt it into Neverland! After The War fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Dec 20, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 22:51 |
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CobiWann posted:I was just finishing up making an all-Rush CD for a friend of mine who said that all Rush songs sound the same... ...are you a drummer? If so, I may have to press you into service.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 03:18 |
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CobiWann posted:I have no musical skills other than a voice that my church keeps trying to impress into the choir. Ah well. Nearly everyone I've ever met into Rush has been a musician, particularly drummers. But don't let no choir director keep you down! CommonShore posted:This is a highly-directional ultra sonic beam of You can't give us that without a visual:
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 08:05 |
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Gordon Shumway posted:As far as the Divergent Universe goes, I thought The Twilight Kingdom was worse than Creed of the Kromon, to be honest. At least Twilight Kingdom I can understand the intended purpose, which is Lovecraftian horror. Kromon, on the other hand IS a Lovecraftian Horror, in that, should you think too much about its intended purpose, it will destroy your mind.
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2016 02:44 |
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Amppelix posted:setting responses in this thread ranging from "loved it" to "utter horseshit", I'm going to say it'll depend entirely upon your tastes. Feel free to apply this to everything Doctor Who, forever. echoplex posted:As if I couldn't love Peter any more. Except for this, which is objectively .
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2016 21:50 |
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TL posted:Not just quit, erased from Doctor Who! Interestingly, the reality series Steven Moffat's Oubliette of Eternity was cancelled not for budgetary reasons, but its inability to assemble recap sequences.
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2016 17:28 |
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That's always been the nature of Who, though, in every format. I know it's more standard in the UK to list the writer immediately after the episode title, but it feels especially appropriate for Doctor Who, where the abysmal "The Doom of Death by After the War" could be followed by the infinitely superior "Fear in Space by Maxwell Lord" and the most we'd do is shrug.
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2016 19:09 |
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You also have the problem of Seven carrying over a lot of ugly, grim Wilderness Years baggage from the New Adventure novels and whatnot.The stories are just all round, so McCoy didn't bother bringing his A-game. It's actually easier to deal with the crap that way. Colin Baker will goes all-out in every performance, which can be frustrating when the story is crap. One of the reasons early Eight audios are so popular (besides the fact that they had more of their poo poo together by the time McGann came aboard) is that was no set style and they could experiment more. His second "season" is part of the $2.99 range and highly recommended all round, particularly fan favorite Chimes of Midnight. At least make sure to grab that and Seasons of Fear, but do the whole run if you can. Seven will come into his own with Big Finish eventually, and a lot of that comes from Colditz, both stylistically and through the introduction of a character that returns when Big Finish really know what they're doing. Fires of Vulcan is a good historical (albeit similar to a Tennant story that would air eight years later) and Dust Breeding starts to play with the idea of a larger Doctor Who/BF universe and features a pretty major twist. For Five, Eye of the Scorpion introduces a new companion and features the blend of intrigue and adventure that's present in a lot of his audios. It has an immediate follow-up, The Church and the Crown which is a lot of fun and lets Davison be the comic straight man he's famous for (when he's not the Doctor). Creatures of Beauty is the complete opposite: experimentally structured and morally ambiguous, it's the kind of story his TV episodes wanted to be. One of my favorites, although the ending is a bit divisive. FAKE EDIT - Wheat Loaf!
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 23:40 |
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Here, this will keep me from emptyquoting:Jerusalem posted:Everybody should watch the old ITV series too, Brett is
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 23:44 |
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Tim Burns Effect posted:Definitely gonna second Simon Guerrier here too, his work in the Companion Chronicles range (especially Home Truths ) is some of my favorite material that BF has ever produced. He's got a knack for writing fully realized worlds/premises and dropping the Doctor and friends into them, kind of like Robert Holmes but without the passion for scaring kids The Sara Kingdom stuff, oh God yes. If anything, he's good at coming up with things that scare adults - the framing backstory in The Drowned World and Guardian of the Solar System would resonate more with lived experience, especially for parents.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 23:53 |
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cargohills posted:Currently listening to Doctor Who and the Pirates and it might be the best thing I've ever heard. Every audio I listen to I love Colin Baker more and more. That's such a good audio. I know some people find the tonal shift towards the end jarring, but it makes sense if you've been following Evelyn's character arc. And worry not, there is no end to Colin love. Soon you too will be grabbing everyone with a vague interest in Doctor Who ("I think I saw something with David Tennis once?") and telling them they need to be listening to Colin Baker audios. I was proselytizing to geek friends who helped us move over the weekend, but they're still biased from the TV stories and don't seem interested in BF.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 07:02 |
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Jerusalem posted:Like a sarcastic kid character who is constantly making quips and talking back to the Doctor! Bragging about mutant healing factor for twisted ankles and asking to pass the "sodium chlooowiide" doesn't count as backtalk, either.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 22:34 |
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The_Doctor posted:...to shreds you say? Stop, I'm already having trouble keeping track of what thread I'm in!
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 05:56 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:57 |
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CobiWann posted:we've got a Doctor with attack eyebrows. Does that help? Well, not really... But since I know you're not one of the posters crossing over with the Star Trek thread, (which now includes The_Doctor making the same posts ), we'll call it "grounded" at least.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 17:55 |