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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

That's not ad copy that's literally the description of the character used in the game and on their own website.

But by all means keep defending their poo poo writing.

There's no need to poo poo up every thread, every time. It's clear I wasn't defending the writing, because I went out of my way to call it "bad ad copy". I didn't know it was in the game, though it being in the game doesn't really mean it wasn't written as ad copy anyway. I took it from context that you were posting ad copy, because the discussion was about pre-release hype about squadmates.

But by all means keep replying and trying to start a dumb internet fight because you've had a bad day or whatever.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

DancingShade posted:

I'm impressed anyone at all is thinking of anything marketing related as anything other than any old vaguely legally compliant bullshit fabricated to shift units.

That's my point. When I used to work at radio stations (which are a thing that used to exist) nobody read a particularly egregious press kit and then went around showing the other DJs and saying "Heh, I bet this album will be poo poo, right?" I've never seen anyone, other than in Games and other gaming boards, presume to make any judgement at all on a product's quality based on its advertising.

And hey, it's not just bad ads that are deceptive. "This is the new poo poo" was really bad, but the game ended up being good. However, Fable 3 had that television spot that used The Black Angels' "Young Men Dead" which made it seem like probably the most badass game ever and we all know how that turned out.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

poptart_fairy posted:

They're also going by the company's previous work, HTH.

If you think all, or even a preponderance, of Bioware games are bad, then why waste time in this thread.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
If the zones are both that big and that good looking I think No Man's Sky finally got released.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I made a Shepard that looked exactly like me once, and my wife's reaction was "there's a silver fox in the hen house!"

To this day, I don't know if I should take it as a compliment.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Default Shepard perfectly matches her voice though

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Clearly they picked Andromeda because Bioware are big fans of The Legendary Pink Dots and my first novel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W7ICfDB7tE

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Maybe the Andromeda Initiative was funded by Bill Gates' Preserved Brain In a Jar or you know some kind of latter day Howard Hughes type or maybe they used slave labor or maybe they stole the ship or maybe it's just a cool plot device and this argument is dumb.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
What if the big twist in the game is that the people in the Andromeda Initiative were lied to???

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Admiral Ray posted:

It'd be quite the twist if it turned out the AI was really a money laundering scheme/feudal lord aspiration and Dad Ryder was just a two bit merc that lied about being N7 to his kids their whole lives.

I fully expect the line "Wait a minute... this isn't Andromeda! to be in the game somewhere, probably within the last 10 minutes of the game. Like it's gonna turn out you got sent back in time. I also predict you'll land on Thedas at some point.

marshmallow creep posted:

Alien Sex Cattle is my band name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hNc9d3KUy0

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Cythereal posted:

Miranda is in her 40s.

I'm sorry but this is the most absurd thing that has been posted in this entire thread.

Is Dr. Chakwas supposed to be like 100 then? Lookin' good if so.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

marshmallow creep posted:

Dr Chakwas is a hard living alcoholic. :cheers:

Look, if we get to the point of having loving spaceships and lasers I'm just saying they better have a pill you can take that just repairs your liver overnight.

Though also I would hope that by then we have better drugs than alcohol and space-Ecstasy.

e: Watching Giant Bomb's quicklook thing, why does Cora have Asari Commando skill :confused:

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Zakmonster posted:

Never tried to solo Platinum because I'm not a masochist. I did solo Gold a few times with the Krogan Mudertrain and the Turian Ghost Infiltrator, however.

Soloing Platinum is actually not much harder than Gold as far as reflexes or whatever, what soloing Platinum requires is an intimate and tedious knowledge of wave spawns, a loving lot of patience, and a little bit of luck praying you don't get randomly sync killed in Wave 9 by a Banshee.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Goddamn now I want to play some ME3MP but I think I deleted it off the PS3 and it's such a pain to download all the expansions.

Maybe I'll just download the PC version and start all over with level 1 guns again :shepicide:

For Platinum I used the... Shadow? The Adept that could warp through walls and explode everything and looked kinda like Kasumi. Or the old standby Turian Sentinel, which I think is technically one of the best classes in the game. Or Suicide Bomber Asari Sentinel.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
The AI this time is called SAM, so will it be a male EDI? If so, will we please in the sequel get SAM in a buff pornstar-bot body? As a romance option no less???

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Civilized Fishbot posted:

The Illusive Man's name is Jack Harper and a lady named Cora Harper is the #2 on the ship, c'mon

Wait really because that's amazing, either it will end up being a complete coincidence, which is hilarious, or it won't be, which will be double hilarious, especially if they got Martin Sheen to record a few lines for some email she keeps with her

Her loyalty mission will involve finding her dad's greybox

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Platinum/Giant/Reapers was intensely boring but was also comically easy unless you got a particularly bad hack objective, and even then it only became mildly challenging.

This is because literally all you have to do is Hold. The. Line. in the SW corner of the map, every enemy will start out very far away from you and even when they do get close they'll be coming at you down a hallway. Like you have to be a special kind of ME3MP pubbie to gently caress it up.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Went back to my ME1 replay, my only time ever playing a Soldier in any of the games, because I just want to shoot poo poo in the face and Tali/Liara can handle the space magic well enough.

Man some of these sidequests are tone deaf as hell in hilarious ways. You can really tell they wanted this game to Be Important.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Hey guys remember the official Bioware forums

good times, right? Good times...

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
More bromance, less romance. I want a squad of six Turians and they're all named Garrus. Is that a mass effect generator in that espresso machine? It drat well will be, soldier! Meet me in the docking bay at 6, we're going to wrestle, but not in that way. Well, maybe in that way. Half and half.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Mass Effect 2 is the Fast & The Furious of video games.

Family. Family. Family.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
This is the first I'm hearing of being able to get any kind of message from Shepard's mom :psyduck:

Is it just an email? It has to be just an email, right?

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

WillyTheNewGuy posted:

For awhile, I had thought they were getting better with relationships due to my experience with DA:I. In my game I attempted to romance the diplomat lady in the Inquisition. It was going well at first, but then there was another suitor from her home country that had dealings with her family. I ended up challenging him to a duel, but before it could pop off, she caught us and privately admonished me for making the position of Inquisitor look bad. I apologized and agreed to keep things professional and realized the position I held was too important, and I didn't really have the time for matters of the heart. Guess that wasn't the standard experience lol

To be serious for one post, Jospehine's romance in DA:I (and to a lesser extent Dorian's) were actually well-written.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

marshmallow creep posted:

As I recall, Earthborn Shep's parents were simply not present, like they gave her up for adoption or were deadbeats so she was raised on the streets, while Colonist Shep's parents all died in a slaver raid. Spacer Shep got to grow up normally, but Dad is conspicuously absent, and you only ever speak to your mother, who is never shown.

Shepard's mom is a VI or just some actress because Shepard didn't exist until the beginning of ME2. All of ME1 was a false flag operation. WAKE UP, JOIN CERBERUS.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

DoggPickle posted:

I'm like such a nice person that I can't even be a dick in a videogame. Is that weird?

If you've never done a full trilogy Female Renegade Space Racist playthrough you are missing out on literally 90% of the best dialogue in the entire franchise.

The other 10%, by the way, is Mordin, Garrus and TIM.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

DancingShade posted:

An animated meat corpse with a VI brain that thinks it's people.

But enough about GBS

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Is it weird that I think it's weird that more people weren't upset about punching the reporter? Like I mean, poo poo yeah it's hilarious, but it's also uh, pretty fuckin' fascist!

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Glenn Quebec posted:

No joke I did a trilogy run through as a celibate

I'm calling joke.

Nevets posted:

Me too. I think part of it is the typical 'evil' path involves either cartoonishly unnecessary and random violence to show how much of a badass the protagonist is, or petty theft of tiny sums from poor people.

Oddly enough, meting out street justice on bands of muggers / thieves / etc. and stripping the tattered clothes from their lifeless bodies is usually classified under the heading of 'good'.

At least in ME2 they sometimes got it right, like killing the Batarians in the Mordin mission was a Renegade choice but Mordin and everyone else lets you know that it was actually super cool and good because they were Bad Hombres

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I loaded up ME3 on PC since it's free with Origin Access and I'm doing a trilogy run anyway, but I didn't expect to start over with the MP.

Well, last night I smoked a lot of weed and thought it would be a totally great idea to start the MP grind over.

You know how you get like 4 Starter and Gift Packs now because of all the free packs you missed, I guess?

Guess what was in my literal first Free Pack. Literally my first pack.

Valiant. loving. I.

The loving gun that I spent lit-ter-rally 100s of hours grinding for on PS3.

:shepicide:

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Nevets posted:

This is why they need to get rid of good/evil or paragon/renegade and frame everything as pragmatic/idealistic.

From what we've seen, they basically have. Didn't they outright say there wasn't a Blue/Red meter at all?

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
The Paragon/Renegade system sucks very badly in ME2 because if you don't pick the same one roughly 90% of every time it comes up, you will fail a ton of dialogue checks.

I recently did an ME2 playthrough where I flipped a coin every time there was a Paragon/Renegade choice and I wasn't able to get anything done. Centrist Shepard Worst Shepard.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

DoggPickle posted:

it's really a poor idea that you get all these extra points from doing the same thing you were gonna do anyways?

There's also the problem that the game misleads you into thinking the middle dialogue option is an actual valid choice when in reality it's 100% a trap option that actively makes the game worse for you.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I just realized the ME3MP thread is actually the same one from 5 years ago

e: hold on, no it isn't, apparently a new thread got started about 6 months after the game came out, because there was definitely a thread before that one started

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Lycus posted:

While they shouldn't have big gameplay based stuff dependent on dialogue checks, you can also choose not to care so much about them. Morinth is a basically just a secret for a later playthrough, not a choice a reasonable Shepard would make, and getting through the Suicide Mission without Miranda/Jack's or Tali/Legion's loyalty isn't hard. You still get their bonus power. The other dialogue checks are mostly useless, and are often less entertaining than the non-check options ("You're forgetting something, Vasir. I was a Spectre too.")(Punching the Citadel crime boss).

While I know that's true from a logical standpoint, it just bugs me so much to see both options greyed out. It makes me feel like the failure I am IRL

Just kidding

Kinda

I mean at least I have a cool wife and a guitar and a bottle of wine

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
In ME1 Renegade FemShep has about two dozen responses that are slight variations on the phrase "Why the hell should I care?" and it's fantastic

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Why must everything be shaped like a dick?

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

BrianWilly posted:

I liked the baby Reaper. If I had my way more things in this series would look like Gradius bosses.

:agreed:

Also I forgot how proud Bioware was of their homage to Tetsuo: The Iron Man in ME1. I just did two missions in an order that resulted in me being shown that drat NIN video twice in a row, once by the Asari on Feros and then immediately afterwards Liara does the exact same thing. The definition of "scientist" is apparently "repeats the same experiment twice expecting a different result".

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
PB-1138 looks like she will be literally the intersection of Merrill and Sera so hold onto your butts for some quality goon hate.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Sorry I forgot who posted about doing a celibate run, but holy crap is it ever fun to turn down Liara and Kaidan in ME1. Would pay real money for DLC of their LiveJournal posts that day.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Tali and Miranda's romances: Not Even Once. I have never done them and don't wanna. And yes I've done Jack's. More than once.

I did do a trilogy run where I remained celibate until Kaidan was comfortable coming out of the closet in 3. That was actually done very well if you go that route, though I suspect very few players played as DudeShep and turned down everyone because they were saving themselves for, of all people, Kaidan

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