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MysteriousStranger
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Voted after work. First time I have not seen a good line a presidential election outside of the place after hours. Soared straight through and there was not only no line inside, some of the booths were even open. Kinda shocking, this is Arlington VA, which is pretty high population density and the blue part of VA.

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pahuyuth posted:

I like MSNBC because Brian Williams is funny and Chris Matthews is almost guaranteed to reference his favorite movie Love Actually at least once. I don't give a poo poo about Maddow unless she hits on a female guest.

I find MSNBC to be obnoxious as hell over time. While I once liked Maddow, Kornaiki (spelling I'm sure), Hayes, and Lawrence they really come off badly over time. Way too snarky and smarter than thou. That sort of stuff can work but it's way to formulaic over time. I prefer more straight news like PBS, NPR, BBC.

MSNBC is great when going for specific coverage, but if you watch it too much it really does grate on your nerves.

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Hypha posted:

Too bad

Arzy time!

I'm not that worried. Most of our youngs are college students and staggering amount of them are foreigners who go to Georgetown or George Washington and are from the Middle East or Asia. They can't vote and their parents just buy up real estate they can rent out after. Most of the olds are very well off (top five richest places in the USA) and thus are hardcore Democratic and work government or contracting jobs, they can vote absentee if they want to.

We don't really have that many working class types to deal with. It's an interesting change, but I think early voting was up anyways and if the working class isn't voting that's better for my team here anyways.

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Tatum Girlparts posted:

Maddow, at least, is Literally Smarter Than You no matter who she's talking to, probably. Especially about politics.

That's probably true. But she takes forever to get to a point and weaves through so many other things to get there. I'm not there to watch a documentary, I want the news. When she's doing actual news she's amazing but that's not what she is covering most nights. I don't need that, just like I don't need to hear Matthews talk about Ronnie and Tip every loving night either... or be reminded that Lawrence worked in the Senate and helped write the West Wing.

I get that all of that is part of their shtick, and it's endearing in small doses and when you first start watching them. But after a few years of watching them I'm ready to move on and just don't enjoy it. Though it's OK if you do.

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WithoutTheFezOn posted:

Clinton takes the lead in NC.

Woot woot afluent whites to new coalition.

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How in the gently caress...

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Johnny Joestar posted:

i like how clinton did worse than obama with groups of people who are being labeled as blind racists yet obama is a black dude named 'barack hussein obama' and got elected twice

The point of labeling them racists isn't entirely that they are racist. The point of labeling them racist is to make the un people, that way we don't have to feel bad about screwing over their communities to make coastal cities richer, because they are bad people and thus it's OK to hurt them, because they deserve it. It's OK that banks destroyed their communities. Because they are racist, and Goldman Sachs funds liberals in big liberal cities and is full of well educated social liberals, and Goldman Sachs is a partner of the Human Rights Campaign and really came through for gay marriage. Plus, criticizing bankers is racist, because what you actually doing is criticizing jews because you are a racist.

If you don't realize that this has been the entire point of liberalism and the democratic party since the 90's, you haven't been paying attention.

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Pook Good Mook posted:

I just want to add this about Bernie, and this comes from someone who was one of the first 30,000 or so who voted for him (Iowa).

He lost. Even with the party working against him, and actively wanting one candidate. He lost by 3.7 million votes, over 10% of the total votes cast. In your heart of hearts, do you really think he would have won absent some backroom dealing?

Keep this in mind, in 2008 the party desparately, desparately wanted Hillary. Obama got more votes and despite FLAGRANT chicanery like Florida/Michigan delegate whining, he became the nominee. Bernie simply did not do well with the populations that the Democratic party now depends on (minorities) to justify ignoring HIllary's win.

Was it right that the party clearly preferred and favored one candidate? No. Did it make a difference? I don't think so. You can mount a compelling argument that the process should be changed. But in the process as run, Bernie lost. He may have been right about what the electorate at large wanted, but he lost. At this point, I think you can say that the Clinton's hosed the whole thing because they sucked the air out of the party for 16 years and convinced or cajoled everyone in the org that Hillary's time had come so when the time came her platform seemed the most effective. That doesn't make the system rigged, it makes it politics.

Sanders needs to get the gently caress out of the Democratic party. He's offering economic policies that help the white working class, aka racists and bigots, at the expense of rich white social liberals. That's not tolerable anymore and anybody who supports that is just as bad as a Trump supporter. Populism is just as vile as racism and sexism and the enemy of social liberalism. Even worse, if we did get votes form it we'd be diluting minority votes with racist votes, anybody who advocates getting more white working votes is signing up with bigotry.

Sanders economic desires are dead in a socially liberal party, and the white working class is dead in one as well. Good riddance to both of them as well.

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GobiasIndustries posted:

Seriously it's been what...48 hours at best since Hillary conceited and he's already complaining.

Why yes, yes, she has always been conceited. Looking down on flyover poors is good sport.

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Louisgod posted:

These next four years are going to be hosed up and the earth will look up at us when we try to put seeds in her and say "no"

But we are just close enough to having protection drones. We can use these to repel the starving flyover hordes. Think of it like ancient city states ruling over the rural trash, we are close to there and that's where things are going anyways. And nobody will care if we drone rednecks to death.

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crazy cloud posted:

Ryan talking bout repealing medicare lmfaooooo

I mean, why not? The left will only throw a fit about social issues. You could advocate paying people $1 an hour and as long as it mostly impacted flyover liberals would still protest in the street over some social issue and ignore it completely.

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Covok posted:

Do y'all think Trump supporters will ever realize they didn't vote for an anti-establishment populist, but, instead, a pro-establishment neo-liberal?

Which establishment?

Trumps voters voted for someone who hated who would piss on the professional class, which Trump certainly does. The professional class considers the CEO class to be the establishment, the working and middle class consider the professional class to be the establishment. Like it or not any actual populist revolution means crushing and taking out the professional class and urban creative class first. Once they are poor then you can go after the CEO class.

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Shipon posted:

social justice has been too often co-opted by the rich who want an easy out from the economy loving over the working class of all races, there's no social justice without economic and ethnic/racial/gender justice and running on one or the other is missing the point

at the end of the day, though, people are usually more immediately concerned by being able to afford their rent or food or car to get to their job than they are about their identity being validated. we had the chance to fix the first so people could start caring more about the second but we blew it and people ran to the shitheads instead of them listening to us like they did with obama

The rich are usually the socially liberal ones. They are also the ones who benefit the most, and never lose, from diversity and mass immigration.

Social justice, and social liberalism, are not compatible with economic justice and economic populism. So pick your side! And as racism and sexism are the worst things, you know what side you should be one. Voting for economic issues, hating on bankers, is all rather racist.

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mormonpartyboat posted:

imo they're conceptually broken

taxpayers pay for public schools, but not enough to make them good

then the taxpayers pay for charter schools so people can avoid the lovely public schools, which the taxpayers are still paying for

The schools in my area of Virginia are great. The schools in with trash flyover Virginia suck. That's fine, and that's how it should work. gently caress paying for bible thumpers.

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Nichael posted:

Air Force One is one of the most advanced planes on the planet, and a nation kind of needs to keep its leader alive. I don't really see the problem.

What's funnier (and what will happen because this is 2016) is if Clinton loses more faithless electors than Trump.

This man is human loving garbage. I don't know much about Ryan, what was his upbringing like? Did he come from money?

His family was a bunch of local notables in Wisconsin. So they had local money, but they didn't have coastal city money like you get in the north east or west coast. Well off for a red flyover state suburb, not "gently caress you money" like a coastal blue state city. His father died early so he ended up living off social security survivors benefits. He ended up becoming a Randian rear end in a top hat at some point and then went to work for Jack Kemp. Kemp was a crazy fool for supply side economics but actually thought they would help poor people.

Anyways, Ryan is actually convinced, and has said it several times, that we are living in a tyrannical Ayn Rand novel and the only hope is utterly slashing taxes and the federal government. With a dash of Jesus in there as well.

He's loving nuts.

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Venom Snake posted:

Tbf most of the cost comes from the fact it has to be "nice" which makes mounting the aircrafts defenses 100 times harder

It would be boss if they just kit bashed an AWACS and Specter Gunship together and rolled with that. I think it would look cooler!

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Montasque posted:

Good point on them using the emails as the equivalence, but I'd still argue that Wikileaks stories were nowhere near as damaging as the constant stream of Trump stories... PUSSYGATE alone...

My main worry moving forward is that the Dems will learn all the wrong lessons from this election. Instead of placing blame on a bad campaign/bad candidate they will place it Comey, or Russia, or the media. Of course all of those are factors, but the main reason she lost was that she sucked.

The problem is not learning the wrong lessons, the problem is the motivations. Losing with Clinton was a better option than winning with Bernie for most people in the party and the upper income professionals that make up the base. Clinton would have been much better for San Fran tech, New York finance, and DC consultants. Likewise the campaign may have been bad, but it funneled a poo poo ton of money to upper class urban ivy league graduate political consultants, and made sure that they and their classes views were much more important than uneducated flyover trash. This is just as important as winning, in most cases more important than winning if you care about social liberalism.

It's doesn't matter if that doesn't win, that's what the party is about and that's the loving product it's going to push. Changing that product would make winning worthless.

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Shipon posted:

why do we let the midwest exist

lets cleanse the place in nuclear fire and stop wasting tax money on it

Swap midwest for all rural areas and I'm onboard. Luckily they will all the kill themselves off with drug abuse and suicide given enough time and we can have robots do their job. It's best to view what's going on as their last desperate plea for life before they and their way of life are permanently exterminated and left to history books to be laughed at, mocked, and looked down upon with hate and derision for the rest of humanity. It would be ugly, but they are racist and sexist and thus anything we do to them is OK, so everyone should feel good about getting their beating up on the last group of people we are allowed to.

The best part is they know it, but no matter how it hurts there is nothing they can do to stop it. It's amazing.

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Atrocious Joe posted:

socialists ran Wisconsin for decades

we're redeemable

Like NYC is the cancerous heart of world capitalism and California is the home of the vampires of Silicon Valley so the coasts aren't looking that great either

But those capitalists use their money to advance social liberalism and diversity, so it's OK. Look it up, Goldman Sachs is amazing for women, diversity and is the corporate partner of the HRC. Social liberalism requires upper class predators having power to move forward. Bashing them is enabling racism and sexism, which is worse than income inequality.

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Karl Sharks posted:

when are you gonna get tired of this gimmick

It's not a gimmick. It's how things work in this country and I embrace it entirely. I have nothing against it, I think it's a good thing.

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Karl Sharks posted:

90% of your posts have been that same thing, going back a year, in the trump thread

just stop or take it somewhere else

You can't hide from the truth on this no matter how uncomfortable it may make you feel.

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euphronius posted:

The same people who want to nuke the Middle East complain when the nyt doesn't front page a story about a Iraqi Christian being jailed for something.

They are dumb idiots who have incongruent racist eliminationalist fantasies because thier wives are fat and won't gently caress them.

Those things aren't contradictory.

They want to nuke the region but hate that liberal media will complain about the poor suffering people of wherever unless those people happen to be white or Christian in which case it's ignored. The first part of that is violent as hell and wrong, the second part is true. But it's a good thing the media does that because of the power white people and Christians have in the world, their suffering isn't a problem and it will require a lot of wrongs done to them to help even out things in the world.

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jarofpiss posted:

People are always saying Donal tromp does coke but he's a teetotaler and nobody does coke unless they're also drinking, right?

Speedballs!

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Epic High Five posted:

Onions also loving own

Try this then! http://www.esquire.com/food-drink/a21681/calcots-recipe-big-black-book-15322023/ you will thank me. It's a Spain thing where you just grill and eat the onions with a yummy sauce and poo poo faced drunk on red wine at the same time. Often there is a roast pig to go with it as well, but it's usually just the onions sauce and wine.

Now I'm hungry...


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bump_fn posted:

Isn't ivanka married

Trump is cvcking his own son in law lmfao

Or is his son in law cvcking him. We need to know! Let's have a special cvcking committee in congress!

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this is going to end badly... firing up Quake Virtual Reality Haxors on Linux.

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Thatim posted:

I saw the dems are already making GBS threads on eachother again cause schumer isnt left / pure enough?

Sigh

Schumer is part of the group that 1. thinks wall street, big tech, and consultants are loving awesome even though those are the drivers of income inequality and the people that looted the rest of the nation, 1. thinks 250k-1million income is where the middle class is (hint, when he talks about helping the middle class that's who he means, earn less, tough poo poo go die in a ditch), and 3. really really wants a grand bargain that slashes entitlements.

So if being left is helping the upper class while curb stomping the middle class and screaming about diversity as your cover, Schumer is as left as they come. If the left is about working class people, he's not. Though he's a perfect modern democrat.

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Admiral Ray posted:

yeah that poo poo is gonna be awesome.

Bookers a solid neoliberal and pro tech/finance. Combined with his minority status that's exactly what we need as the face of the democratic party. gently caress flyover, gently caress poors!

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Please please please let this mean someone has to explain what a golden shower is to a senate committee on CSPAN!

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Bholder posted:

Oh so, this is real?
Not just Buzzfeed being Buzzfeed?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/01/10/buzzfeed-trump-caught-in-perverted-sex.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

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LazyDivey posted:

Oh god what is happening

Putin has tapes of Trump and golden showers, among other things. Also Trumps campaign colluded with the Russians.

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Man the interviews with various senators on the defense/intel committee groups and the various admirals/generals/spies are going to be hilarious. "Sir, when did you know Donald Trump was into Piss Play and have you seen the video", kudos if they can answer that sort of stuff with a straight face.

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Grondoth posted:

Who knows! It's not "ha, he likes Golden Showers" so much as it is "Russian black money has kept him afloat for decades, his campaign had direct contact with the Kremlin, the FSB has a tape of him being pissed on by prostitutes with all the audio". If it's true, uh... I actually legit don't know where we go from here, because it's supposed to be to the Gallows.

Executed for treason as a result of your own prank/sham campaign is one hell of a Darwin Award.

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mormonpartyboat posted:

im waiting for the "i have never enjoyed the taste" tweet

"I did not swallow"

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Maybe Obama will comment on it in his speech.

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euphronius posted:

Nice Giuliani reference

Giuliani likes drag, Trump likes piss. Does Trump like piss from drag queens is the only logical question.

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Oh please let this tape leak.

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RottenK posted:

haha the democratic party is infested with worthless ghouls and that cripples all attempts at fixing poo poo

im russian so im probably supposed to be either uncaring or happy about what's happening to america, but i feel bad for you guys, your liberal party is hijacked by useless backstabbers

There is no loving point in trying to fix poo poo.

The entire "middle class", or "a situation where working class peoples lives aren't complete hell and the rich aren't getting richer all the time" was a post WW2 fluke. It should never have happened and took WW2 to happen, since then everything has been racing back to normal. The Democratic party just wants the destruction of the bottom 90% to be slow and happen where the nice cosmopolitan elite don't have to see it so it won't ruing their perfect lives in amazing coastal urban playgrounds or risk some beautiful educated people losing their heads as well in the mess. It's managed destruction of most people where the rich get to have a nice culture as well. The Republicans just want to pull the plug and have full on Mad Max with the 1% doing OK and gently caress letting the rich have a beautiful culture as well and who loving cares if they have to see the carnage done or a few beautiful urbanites die as well.

The only other option is WW3 to reset everything again. But weapons have reached the point where that's going to be bloodier than any of the other resets we've had in the past.

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Tatum Girlparts posted:

I mean considering that his big 'sex talk' moment was 'I grab women by the pussies', a thing no one who actually gets a lot of women ever does, I wouldn't be surprised.

Pussy grabbing was so weird not just because it was a proud brag about sexual assault but also because he was playing off 'I kiss em, I grab their pussies' as if that's bawdy talk when that feels like what a really hosed up kid would think sex is.

I don't think he was being literal like crotch grabbing was his thing. It more seemed like he was making (in an absurd and rude way) a larger point. If you're a star and have a lot of money, women will sleep with you and let you do whatever you want. Which is actually entirely correct. If you have fame and money there is a never ending supply of hot people of the opposite sex who will sleep with you and let you do whatever the gently caress you want to them no matter how lewd or off the wall it might be. Being able to gently caress who you want however you want and having people throw themselves at you to use however you want has always been one of the perks of money and power. Had an athlete, rapper, or rock star said this nobody would have given a poo poo. Everyone would have shrugged their shoulders because everyone knows a huge "perk of the job" for those people is having women throw themselves at you non stop.

Trump just said what everyone knows in the most Trumpy way possible. Women will sleep with rich powerful man and let him do what he wants, no poo poo news at 11.

I have no doubt that Trump is a total creep and has probably sexually assaulted and raped multiple women. But I don't think the "grab the by the pussy" comment was the "gotcha" or "that horrible monster" moment people twisted it into.

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Thatim posted:

People still take wikileaks serious? I liked them better when they where neutral.

Back in the days when things mattered.

They were never neutral.

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