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The irony of a bunch of people who tell everyone not to get so offended all the time getting offended by getting called a racist electing a person who offends almost everyone, even some of the people who voted for him! It's like pretty much the exact same argument bigots use to justify using slurs too, it's pretty much white people getting offended by a bunch of words that don't affect their day-to-day lives in any way
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thechosenone posted:Point. But since the reality of the situation implies it would be in their best interest to side with the common folk even if only for cynical reasons, and since they are generally more well educated and live in an environment which allows them to learn more easily if they would like to, it explains why so many rich people do not side with the GOP. Historically this has only happened when the owner class has been explicitly threatened with a socialist revolution. FDR implemented the new deal to save American capitalism from itself
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Nov 14, 2016 19:16
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What's the city most like Avignon, Hillary can take up residence there
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Nov 14, 2016 19:23
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Fojar38 posted:Not every Republican is a literal theocrat and there's a reason why they cloak all their socially regressive policies in "states rights." It's because they know that enacting things nationally is impossible. Except now they control all three branches of government and enough state legislatures to enact a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage
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Nov 15, 2016 02:03
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Crowsbeak posted:Well let's see do people think police are too violent? Yes, campaign on that. Not that you care about police violence. The people you are trying to appeal to think blue lives matter is equally as valid as black lives matter, if not more so so I'm not sure if that's the tack you want to take
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Nov 16, 2016 02:25
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Crowsbeak posted:Well according to you that means the majority just want police violence. No, it's something that will most likely never affect them, because they're white and our justice system actually attempts to live up to innocent until proven guilty for them. They just don't give a poo poo because at a fundamental level they don't believe rampant police violence and discrimination takes place because it does not jive with their personal experience dealing with cops. On the other hand, their boyfriend's dad is a cop, or their uncle or their neighbor, and they're telling stories about all the perps and thugs they deal with and how they're outgunned and outmanned on patrol. They're worried about home invasions to an inordinate extent, that's half the reason why they have a gun if they own one. If you have a good way of convincing people that their worldview is not representative of everyone who lives in this country and that minorities have to deal with all the same problems they do, with an added helping of systemic racism on top, let me know because I have been trying for a while now to do this and I don't think I've made much progress
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Nov 16, 2016 02:48
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PerniciousKnid posted:Democrats failed to pass pro-union legislation despite controlling almost 45% of Congress, that's just a fact. I guess it's the republicans fault too that teacher's unions are getting squeezed even in liberal bastions and charter schools are floated by the Clinton Foundation and the neoliberal establishment as a solution to the issues facing k-12 education
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Nov 16, 2016 03:04
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SourKraut posted:Someone convince Lebron James to run. The Decision 2020. He's taking his talents to the White House. He called out Phil Jackson for calling his business associates his posse today, I think he's got this
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Nov 16, 2016 03:23
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So I guess he wants to prosecute Clinton after all?
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Nov 16, 2016 03:32
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Owner of the company I work for maxes out his donations to Democrats every year and will instantly walk an employee out if there's any hint of someone trying to unionize the place
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Nov 16, 2016 03:42
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LeeMajors posted:I scoffed on Twitter at someone referencing Obama as a 'left wing radical' and referred to him as a corporate centrist and I got hammered with like 300+ "DEPLORABLE _________" notifications trying to school me for being a 'libtard' and referring to him as a "Marxist." 90% of them don't know it, but they're talking about cultural marxism which is an alt right protocols of zion type conspiracy theory, complete with Jews trying to take over the world
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Nov 16, 2016 05:29
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FactsAreUseless posted:Because people need to send the message that it isn't okay to have someone like Donald Trump in the presidency. I know it's too late, because every single major Democrat has already rolled over and started normalizing Trump, but they're going to regret it. I don't necessarily disagree with you but a lot of democrats are going to have issues with the party copping the tea party strategy
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Nov 17, 2016 01:44
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Nah. A Good Article
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Nov 17, 2016 02:01
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Nebalebadingdong posted:I really don't understand this thread. If Trump actually tries to push his 6 weeks of paid leave for new mothers, we should try to stop him? If it has a rider to defund Planned Parenthood absolutely
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Nov 17, 2016 02:11
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Crazy Ted posted:And yeah I already put this in the election thread but everyone needs to read this because good lord this is the dumbest loving thing I have ever read e: YOUR SUPERIOR RESOURCES ARE YOUR BIGGEST loving ADVANTAGE IN THE CAMPAIGN SDFSDFDSFL:KJDSLFKJ
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Nov 17, 2016 04:34
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:ok the idea of some 60-year-old Nazi grandma hunt-and-pecking out le Pepe meme having no loving clue what the hell is going on but taking one for The Cause warms my heart a lil More like a 46 year old grandpa because this is white America we're talking about here
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Nov 17, 2016 14:06
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Mike Pompeo gonna be CIA director, the Kochs just bought themselves an intelligence agency
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Nov 18, 2016 16:48
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I look forward to Trump moving the capital to New York City so he can move the federal government into buildings he owns in and rent them floorspace at insane prices
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Nov 20, 2016 16:49
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Crowsbeak posted:Are those earnings leading to better pay? The thought just struck me is that supposedly we are supposed to believe that at least 50 million people voted for Donald Trump because they think that this man, who has never actually worked a wage paying job in his life will create good paying jobs. Donald Trump doesn't have a clue what a good paying job is. Like has anyone asked Donald Trump this question? Just a simple how much per hour/per year would you say a good paying job is.
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Nov 30, 2016 03:39
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Z. Autobahn posted:In every presidential election of the past 25 years, the candidate who was more personable, human, and seemingly working-class won, while the candidate who was more aloof, distant, and uncharismstic lost. This poo poo is not complicated. America did not magically go from permanent Democrat Rule to Forever Republican Dystopia. Voters, especially white voters, are fickle and manipulatable and want a candidate they can relate to to tell them poo poo will get better. Thats literally the only bar the dems have to hit. It speaks a lot about Americans that they relate to the scion of a wealthy family who grafted and schemed his way to a fortune while molesting every woman that caught his eye
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Nov 30, 2016 13:23
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Are we supposed to ignore the fact that Clinton's historic unpopularity with white working class voters is why she lost the election?
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Nov 30, 2016 19:15
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anti_strunt posted:Well, obviously, but a margin that large has to be unprecedented. I know how the states went, mostly, but where did most of those several million wasted votes come from? California mostly e: basically the only places Clinton outperformed Obama were in California and a handful of Republican states like Kansas (entirely due to Brownback) where she narrowed the margin, whereas Trump outperformed Romney in every single swing state because Clinton lost working class whites harder than Walter loving Mondale rscott fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Dec 1, 2016 |
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Dec 1, 2016 00:08
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Why? There's been a lot of talk about the EC being stupid but nobody can articulate their thoughts. This type of thinking comes from poor civics knowledge. We have states and individual states govern their people which leads to better local government. Lots of countries do this it's not unique. The reason for the Electoral College is that a state is more than the sum of it's population and population is not the end-all be-all of how much power a state should have. States have value beyond their small population numbers and likewise large populations have value in themselves but only up to a certain point. Federalism as implemented in the United States is dumb as hell too
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Dec 1, 2016 00:26
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Like, holy poo poo it's 2016 and our constitution has pretty much remained the same since the late 18th century. The whole thing should have been torn up and done over a hundred years ago.
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Dec 1, 2016 00:31
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NathanScottPhillips posted:And every single person has the ability to vote in their state. States vote for the president based on those results. And this is as backwards a way of choosing the executive as other practices dating from 1789, like bloodletting
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Dec 1, 2016 00:41
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Let's deliberately kneecap ourselves by holding to a bunch of rules thought up by people who lived before the industrial revolution
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Party Plane Jones posted:I love the loving vast wasteland comprising most of the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, Nevada, Oregon and Idaho that remains contiguous and completely unnamed. I think the federal government owns most of that land so I guess it makes sense to leave it as unorganized territory
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