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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Clinton supporters' "if you don't vote for her it's because you hate women, you white male" us-vs-them framing resonated a lot with many leftists who really do hate women. People still go for 'u mad' style provocations really really easily. I never once saw a single person saying that because she was a woman but more specifically because of what Donald Trump represents.
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galenanorth posted:There was something offputting about how she'd be asked a foreign policy question during one debate and ended up answering about abortion rights instead of answering the question You'll need to quote that, I remember her talking about Abortion rights when she was asked the loaded question about partial birth abortions. Not related to any of the Foreign Policy questions.
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Nov 16, 2016 16:39
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cravius posted:Hyperbole obviously but lol if you don't think traditional news sources of the past (newspapers and television) have a definite left bend How many people read Newspapers vs watch Fox News?
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Nov 16, 2016 17:16
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Mnoba posted:It's pretty hilarious actually, so what was the point of the media to paint Bannon as a nazi anyway the DNC tell them to do it? Did the media fake his entire history with Breitbart?
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Nov 17, 2016 22:35
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I'm starting to think NeoLiberalism is one of those words that repeated so much in so many different situations it has lost all meaning.
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Nov 17, 2016 22:57
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Bishounen Bonanza posted:The feeling that I have gotten from reading dnd over the last two weeks is that most of you feel that the average voter is too stupid or racist to make good choices and so we've wound up with Trump. That we can't win by playing by the rules and that we need to lie, cheat, and perhaps even use force as much as the enemy. We aren't going to convince citizens to do the right thing with education and truth, because every time we try that the idiot masses vote to either gently caress themselves or gently caress over someone else. There is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment that seems to be brewing right now. I really haven't seen a single person advocate Lie cheat and use force on the Republican's without joking or being sarcastic about it. I really think you are overstating all of this.
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Nov 18, 2016 06:21
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Motto posted:Superdelegates are dumb, but they weren't why Bernie lost. Wasn't he even trying to court them to overcome Clinton's lead in regular delegates near the end? Nah he lost because he had way less votes.
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Nov 18, 2016 07:47
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ECHO CHAMBER almost always == "more then 1 person here disagrees with my essay of nonsense I made up and refuse to support with any sort of facts"
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Nov 18, 2016 07:52
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foobardog posted:I'm less talking about superdelegates in particular, and more at the bullshit primary system that has more to do with endorsements and media attention than the actual contests. Why does it have to do more with endorsements do you really think the average voter cares about them that much?
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Nov 19, 2016 09:32
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The Oldest Man posted:Think about this for a minute. Comey knew that his agents were going to leak the existence of the new emails to the press. He also had already told the republicans that the investigation was over. Can you imagine the fuckstorm if Fox started reporting that Comey had suppressed new evidence against Hillary Clinton? He made the only possible move. There are about a thousand better ways he could of done that.
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Nov 20, 2016 07:17
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icantfindaname posted:You have to admit it is funny how the white postgraduate gender studies women crowd screamed their heads off for 16 months about the racist sexist bernie brocialists and then only 51% of white college educated women voted for Hillary No you don't because you understand that those are two different groups of women?
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Nov 22, 2016 08:53
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icantfindaname posted:They're the closest discernable demographic groups in the election results? You think 51% of white college educated women are "postgraduate gender studies" students?
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Nov 22, 2016 08:55
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Proud Christian Mom posted:40 years of Democrats and Republicans and the average American is worse off so please stop pretending either party really gives a poo poo about the economy other than whatever it takes to get elected and make their donors happy Wow man you are so cool and above it all you really seem to have a grasp of what's going on.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:58
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TheScott2K posted:If the Democrats want to win back rural voters they need to abolish that extra-special welfare that minorities get that good hard-working people aren't eligible for. Everyone knows you only get the good welfare if you're one of them. The other day I saw one of them driving an Escalade and using a SMART PHONE. We need to kick them off welfare and make them get a job, why don't I have a job? Because OBUMMER SENT IT TO CHINA!
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Nov 22, 2016 20:14
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Combed Thunderclap posted:He might not have even ever read Breitbart or Googled who Bannon is. As I recall he likes to sit down with the print media and annotate it. The Twitter app is probably his only little window to the Internet. Easy to forget but he's 70 years old and almost certainly technologically incompetent. Bannon isn't some random association it was the dudes campaign manager and close advisor, if he at no point even asked Bannon about the alt-right stuff then he is supremely incompetent.
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Nov 22, 2016 20:22
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:this is primarily a war being fought on behalf of two 70-year-olds, one who talks about 'the cyber' like it's one of those 80s neon grids full of three-dimensional shapes and the other who leaked state secrets because she couldn't stop loving installing Bonzi buddy and setting her password to "password", by lickspittles not much better informed about anything actually useful Is your troll gimmick just posting random nonsense about Hillary?
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Nov 23, 2016 02:18
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SimonCat posted:And yet Americans are still employed in factories making construction machinery, aircraft, farm equipment, automobiles, and other products. Ha what, automation replacing workers is a recent thing? Like you seriously think we invented this poo poo whole cloth in the past year or something? Also robots still replace human jobs, not every job but the number of humans required to produce poo poo constantly goes down how on earth you could you pretend that's not happening?
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Nov 25, 2016 03:11
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readingatwork posted:There were several moments during the campaign that I really liked what he had to say so I completely get his appeal. For example I outright cheered at my screen when he talked about how he buys influence with money. Yes he's a bastard but for many he's their bastard, particularly in contrast to the Democrats who deny that serious problems exist (America is already great!) and don't really stand for anything outside of winning and being slightly less terrible than Republicans (I'm with HER!). What policy though, he had like one pushed solid policy position and that was his tax plan that cut taxes for the rich. Hillary had dozens of policy proposals and spent a large amount of her rally time pushing them just the media didn't cover it because it got bad ratings. What you are saying is like literally the opposite of reality.
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phasmid posted:I remember. It's part of why she lost, after all. Her campaign (which is just an extension of her) seemed to believe that them colored folk don't nowise know how to vote but downticket D. From what do you draw this conclusion, like do you have examples?
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