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Augus posted:So will the 2020 dem primaries be done Republican style with 9 different candidates now or what? rofl how would they even get 9 candidates
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Venom Snake posted:The biggest political movement this forum had lately was the Bernie thread and I dunno if those players are up for it again. Personally we should all do our best to volunteer and campaign. have somethingawful rally around tammy duckworth imo
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Nov 10, 2016 03:01
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Plank Walker posted:The fact that any polls had trump leading on "the economy" should be the focus but but...america is great because it's good!!!
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Nov 10, 2016 03:07
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anime was right posted:obamacare is better than not obamacare, straight up. yeah it was very very flawed and needed loads of work but it was way better than what we had. losing it will not help make healthcare better fast, it will accomplish literally the opposite. going back to square 1 does not benefit anyone.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:20
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Not a Step posted:Yeah, but Bernie's gently caress up was ignoring the question of race as it pertained to class politics. Blacks automatically assume any ambitious social welfare program will screw them over because to date all ambitious social welfare programs have screwed them over. So when Bernie talked about class all they heard was 'white people'. Plus they had no loving clue who this old white jew from Vermont was making all these big promises, while they all new Clinton as a queen of retail politics. strictly speaking yes, this is why he lost the primary. it would not have lost him the general. bernie did make missteps (i still really hate jeff weaver) but he was right from day 1 and he would have won this poo poo. LegoPirateNinja posted:Fortunately it can't just be repealed since the health industry requires it to function. It has to be replaced with something comprehensive. My guess is the republicans won't bother with that, so in the end it will be tweaked. i really fuckin hope you are right.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:29
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Yinlock posted:a lot of the bernie supporters were openly being accelerationist assholes after he lost, hence why they were known for wanting to tear everything down because they didn't get 100% of what they wanted immediately see i was an accelerationist rear end in a top hat before he lost after it was clear that bernie was gonna lose and trump was gonna be the gop cadnidate i every quickly switched my tune and supported hillary because the actual reality of a trump accelerationist universe was too terrifying well here we are now
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Nov 10, 2016 03:40
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Yinlock posted:i mean that's true if all they wanted was Bernie Sanders and not anything he supported i do not think the number of berniebros who went to trump or even third part was significant enough to swing the election either way. bernie supporters overwhelmingly supported clinton when he conceded, don't let idiots on facebook and twitter lead you to believe otherwise.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:46
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Guy DeBorgore posted:it's not that people hate her for being a woman, duh. they hate her for being "unlikeable" right? who can say why a bunch of coal miners and farmers found her "unlikeable." perhaps because she was too nakedly ambitious, or too shrill, or too cold? she was unlikeable because republicans had a 20+ year smear campaign against her the smear campaign was predicated on complete bullshit that they could never support with facts but that does not matter. just in my house two people who are lifelong d voters did not vote clinton because she was 'corrupt'. for rust belters who already felt that the democrats had failed them, hearing this poo poo about her for that long absolutely had to have been a major driving force for them just staying home.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:50
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Oh Snapple! posted:remember when hill shills got mad as gently caress about the bernie folks booing him and cuomo during the DNC lol people actually got mad that andrew loving cuomo got booed? cuomo is probably the worst democrat who holds any position in the entire country what the gently caress
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Nov 10, 2016 22:01
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these voices will grow stronger the democratic establishment must fall and it will
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Nov 10, 2016 22:35
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Vox Nihili posted:agreed, but also, millions of people will lose insurance and thousands will probably die unnecessarily in the interim period following the repeal of the ACA and our ultimate, shining success well it's too late now because the aca is going to die. it sucks but all we can do it try and get universal health care in the future.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:39
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Zikan posted:no jesus in heaven i hope she doesn't even get chosen as the democratic senate candidate for her state
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Nov 11, 2016 06:43
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LmaoTheKid posted:Also, Liz Warren sucks. That interview was terrible and the fact that she's ok with hearing out Dean is just gross as hell. i have not lost so much respect for someone so quickly as i have with warren this week
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Nov 11, 2016 06:58
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Neeksy posted:Just wait until you hear about her stance with Israel i already knew this. much like bernie's stance on nuclear energy, which i also hate.
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Nov 11, 2016 07:13
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Bass Bottles posted:Elizabeth Warren is cool and good, it seems like she's trying to maneuver to get herself and her people in control of the party, and imo people should be excited and supportive of that. yeah maybe, i'm just so frustrated with the dems right now it's prolly clouding my judgement.
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Nov 11, 2016 07:43
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Bass Bottles posted:I haven't listened to Elliot smith in forever, what a crime I have made of my life i do not recommend listening to elliot smith this week tbh
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Nov 11, 2016 07:47
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Zythrst posted:Donna is done she's toxic now. What they are doing now is trying to pretend Howie Dean is a progressive. how is the democratic chair chosen and how can we have an effect, if indeed we can at all? if we are to have a progressive populist takeover, which we will need to win in 2020, we should prolly start figuring out what we can do for poo poo like this.
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Nov 11, 2016 11:14
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schumer backing ellison is the best thing i have heard yet. i mean, gently caress schumer, but him doing this tells me he can see the writing on the walls.
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Nov 11, 2016 18:47
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anime was right posted:http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/305663-sanders-eyeing-senate-leadership-bid do it bernie and fix this loving poo poo
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Nov 12, 2016 01:08
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i am gonna call up my state's dnc office monday. i almost think it'll be redundant because i'm in oregon and there's little doubt to me that they will go for ellis anyway (people in this state fuckin LOVE bernie) but gently caress man i have never been so fired up as i am after this election. channel your anger into action.
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Nov 12, 2016 01:41
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Jaminjami posted:https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/797554312939343872 he is powering up for a 2020 run. when he wins, i just want his victory speech to be 'I TOLD YOU FUCKERS' *mic drop*
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Nov 12, 2016 22:51
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Dude probably doesn't have 8 years in him with the stresses that would cause. he doesn't need 8 years my man. run in 2020 with a young progressive like gabbard as vp in case he eats it during office, if he makes it the whole term he retires after one term and hands the reigns to someone like him but younger. trump will be 75 in 2020 and already looks more unhealthy than sanders now so i don't even think the age thing would matter in the eyes of voters. DEEP STATE PLOT has issued a correction as of 22:57 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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Nov 12, 2016 22:55
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Fidel Castronaut posted:I think Bernie's age might hurt him in 2020. Better to go Gabbard/Sanders or _______/Sanders. You get his cred on the ticket, have somebody younger and perhaps more charismatic at the top of the ticket. Not that Bernie doesn't have charisma; it's just that we could probably get somebody more charismatic on top of the ticket. i think age will only matter if by 2020, he is not as sharp and charismatic as he is now. which hell maybe he won't be, like he said 4 years is a long time. gabbard is good too and i wouldn't mind her at the top, i just feel that since sanders is a known quantity and since he was right all along and now everyone is coming around to that fact, he would be a better bet. but ultimately we need to worry about the now and the immediate future, which is getting ellison as chair and making the dems fall in line behind him. i am sending the phone numbers and email addresses in the op to various friends i know who care about this election in various states so that their local dems will hopefully get behind ellison as chair and i implore everyone to do the same if you have not yet. SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:It's more is he up to run himself ragged, not would it worry voters. He's already doing the elder statesman thing and kingmaking sanders is good people and if he feels he's the only hope for the dems in 2020 i think he will do it even if it literally kills him
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Nov 12, 2016 23:17
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Venom Snake posted:He's not dumb. he's not going to run on an "I told you so" campaign. it was a joke, silly
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Nov 12, 2016 23:17
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docbeard posted:I think he would, but I think he's also trying his damnedest to set things up so he won't be. Trying to pull the party* back together and back on point, championing Ellison (rather than himself) as DNC chair, even if he's doing it all out of ambition it feels more like ambition for influence in the Senate (which I would feel really good about him getting) than for taking another stab at the big chair in 4-8 years. this may very well be what he is doing and i am all for it. whatever his plan is, if it means a progressive dem party and a progressive dem candidate in 2020, whether it is him or someone else, that is ultimately all that matters.
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Nov 12, 2016 23:30
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Vox Nihili posted:Enten spitting truth suddenly: it wopuld have made literally zero difference because she had absolutely no message for them whatsoever
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Nov 13, 2016 02:39
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friendly reminder to show up at meetings and get in touch with your state's democratic party, even if they are already likely to back ellison. make your loving voice heard, we cannot have people like this guy in control of the dnc any longer.
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Nov 13, 2016 02:52
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anime was right posted:im like one of the 10 ppl that got the nasty women tag and didnt toxx for hillary lol there was always a little doubt in the back of my mind about her so i also didn't toxx for her
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Nov 13, 2016 21:57
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Venom Snake posted:yknow speaking of this Chuck is not nearly as dumb as I thought he was. Clintons dead campaign wasn't even cold and he was backing Keith i don't think anyone ever really considered schumer to be an idiot, just a shithead. but he's enough of a shithead that he'll do whatever he needs to in order to stay relevant within the party and in this case it's to our benefit.
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Nov 14, 2016 12:59
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Let's be pragmatic and put DWS back in the DNC. i hope keith has a hell of a message on msnbc
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Nov 15, 2016 00:32
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freeing my own post 
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Nov 15, 2016 00:34
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bump_fn posted:https://twitter.com/ngaudiano/status/798937647662018560 holy poo poo are the dems really learning from this election is this really happening 
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Nov 16, 2016 19:18
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Mordiceius posted:I could imagine Schumer sees the progressive rumblings in a similar vein as the tea party movement post the 2008 election. He knows that his best bet is to get on board early and fully because we all saw what happened to establishment republicans in 2010 that tried to stand against the tea party. yeah schumer jumping anoard the progressive change is a good sign regardless of his reasons for doing so. it is the most encouragong sign that progressives are the future of the party.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:29
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anime was right posted:why is bernie so cool omg gonna own when he is president 4 years from now
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Nov 17, 2016 20:44
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Nov 18, 2016 05:57
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Fulchrum posted:It's amazing that the media refusing to loving cover her goddamn speeches or her policies at all is still completely her fault. I guess she just needed to try and make a multi-part plan to fix half the country sexier. she did not even go to wisconsin. she ignored the entire state. she was a poo poo candidate who spent her time and effort loving around in places like arizona and california instead of focusing her efforts on the states that lost her the election, because she was too loving arrogant and overly confident that the people who have spent the last 8 years having their lives not improve in any way would just vote for her anyway. that is, in fact, 100% her fault. now please kindly go poo poo up the xbox one thread, deak, because you are far and away the worst poster in c-spam.
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Nov 21, 2016 05:23
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hillary lost the 2008 primaries to a black guy nobody ever heard of with a blatantly foreign name, the middle of which was HUSSEIN then she underperformed in the 2016 primaries against an old socialist jew from vermont then she lost the 2016 election to DONALD MOTHER loving TRUMP how much more evidence do shitheads like fulchrum need to accept that she was the worst goddamn candidate that the democrats have ever run in the history of the party
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Nov 21, 2016 05:29
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logikv9 posted:attention neo-GOP: this is your 2028 democratic presidential nominee right here rofl you think the united states will still exist in 2028 lmbo
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Nov 21, 2016 05:32
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democrats on social media is like your aunt trying real hard to be hip on facebook but just making you feel embarrassed for her and everyone else in your family
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