SUK ZONE: it's all a pointless exercise and you're just screaming into the void

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Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

They need memes, thankfully, Bernie Sanders has memes for days.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2016 09:00

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 02:21

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Studio posted:

lena dunham is the only celebrity we need.

Lena Dunham and the Clinton family should be out under house arrest until Nov. 9 2020.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2016 09:10

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

MSNBC should just give the keepin it 1600 dudes a prime time show.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2016 11:16

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

I love the democrats saying Ellison isn't as good of a fundraisers as _______, or that him being black or muslim is a liability.

If fundraising won elections, we'd be making guac bowl jokes about Jeb! right now, and Ellison consistently wins ~70% of the vote in his district, which is mostly white, has a median income ~$40,000. Not to mention MN is literally adjacent to WI and IA, and from my experience people from MN, WI, and MI, are pretty similar overall.

Really though all of this matters way less than the fact that Keith Ellison is the "Bernie" pick, and the DNC is shooting themselves in the foot if they take an opportunity to change their image and instead resurrect the primary battle that definitely didn't improve their chances of winning the 2016 election.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2016 10:14

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

I'm probably risking sounding tinfoil hatish, but I would definitely not be surprised if there was/will be an active astroturfing campaign to try and discredit Sanders and economic populism using a false dichotomy of class vs _____ (race, gender, etc.). There's a lot of people invested in the DNC who don't want to see fair wages, real corporate tax reform etc.

I also noticed people who pit Sanders class-view as somehow unable to coexist with racial justice or de-prioritizing it never really offer their alternate solutions to addressing social issues.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2016 20:28

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

A week after the election I got into an argument with a private college liberal who was 100% sure that Clinton only lost because of Racism and Misogyny and it was so close that the best bet forward was pouring more money into ads in the rust belt.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2016 20:41

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Remember when twitter got mad at a 74 year old Jewish man who's family died in the Holocaust for using the word ghetto?

# ¿ Nov 23, 2016 20:45

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Ellison wins his district, which was the lowest turnout district in MN when he first ran, and is now the highest turnout district in MN, with ~70% of the vote, consistently.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2016 04:29

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

The Democrats just need to have a simple message on gun control while also literally shouting that guns are good and the second amendment is important. Dems lose so many voters who are otherwise socially liberal because NRA propaganda is so effective.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 03:43

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

You really can't say anything about gun control because there's no way it won't be twisted according to the paranoid style, into a secret slippery slope plot to take the guns away.

If you really want gun control to be politically viable then arm blacks, hispanics, and communists - then march them up and down every main street in formation. People will be begging for gun control then.

You can though, you just need a simple message and to not come off as not knowing nothing. People who are really into guns don't trust someone who talks about "assault rifles" and "clips", yeah it might seem like a dumb thing to get hung up on, but it makes those people not trust you. My dad was from rural Michigan and was a life long hunter and NRA member, he voted for both parties over the years, but voted for Bush twice because he lived in a poor area and didnt trust dems on guns. He voted for Obama twice as well.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 03:54

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

the fact that were capable of electing someone like Donald Trump is a pretty good argument for keeping the populace armed.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 08:17

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Pretty sure an armed populace is a bit tougher to round up and put in camps than an unarmed one.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 08:24

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Democratic socialism is the first step on the long path to full communism.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2016 01:16

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

7 ways your Abuela can lose the election in 3 emojis

# ¿ Nov 26, 2016 21:48

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

It's time for the dems to appeal to neo genesis evangelicals

# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 05:59

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

I wonder if Chicago and Detroit would have as much gun violence if the poor people living there had access to good education, housing, and job training/enjoyment. :raise:

# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 22:06

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Guy Goodbody posted:

If it was so easy to kill Osama why didn't Bush or Clinton do it?

I remember there was a documentary about hunting Osama from the Clinton years where SF dudes had his location or w.e. but weren't allowed to engage.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 23:40

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

The DNC was in Hillarys corner despite her obvious flaws because they were all positioning themselves for positions in a Clinton administration that they were positive was coming.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 23:42

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

My favorite post-election "analysis" is that Hillarys abysmal turnout was unrelated to downticket because "more people voted for Hillary in (state) than (downticket dem)".

# ¿ Nov 28, 2016 00:03

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Keith Ellison is good at Winning Elections.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2016 01:57

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

A goon politics podcast sounds insanely cringeworthy, so I'll definitely be tuning in.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2016 02:27

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

I hope Bernie becomes the prominent "dem" during the Trump presidency and we get to see more Larry David on snl

# ¿ Nov 28, 2016 03:34

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Nothing like chasing my favorite sandwich, the hotdog, with some lemon bar cookies.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2016 19:08

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

loquacius posted:

Is there a point to the 2020 dem primary thread anymore, it was fun at first but now it is basically this thread but with less cool posters and more Fulchrum

So people can go back in time 4 years from now and point out why we lost the 2020 election.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2016 21:47

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Internet Explorer posted:

So, serious question for a second. I know I've seen the name Chomsky mentioned for years in leftist circles, but I never really looked into his work. I saw Requiem For The American Dream a couple of weeks ago and thought it was amazing. Am I just behind the times? Or is he some sort of extremest that most people just roll their eyes at? I guess, what I'm asking is, why doesn't he get talked about more or am I just ignorant about the topic?

Chomsky is the smartest person in the world, if you ever want a reason to hate a us president just read whatever Chomsky wrote about them.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2016 06:46

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Start with Manufacturing Consent, then Hegemony and Survival, then Failed States.

Also read howard zinn's people's history of the united states if you havent

# ¿ Dec 1, 2016 06:48

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Zyla posted:

altneratively kill anyone with a podcast

some bitter losses but gains overall

Keith Ellison has a podcast, it's really good.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2016 23:34

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

bump_fn posted:

link

http://wethepodcast.podomatic.com

Also on iTunes.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2016 23:37

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2016 23:49

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Say goodbye, say goodbye to pain of the past, we don't have to feel it anymore, Bernie Sanders por favor.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2016 23:58

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Lastgirl posted:

you should probably stick to one, maybe two key tweets. Twitter storms are probe worthy, edit quick!

he does make a good point about leadership, now more than ever.

That's a dumb rule, it should be based on how relevant/good the tweets are.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 00:52

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

*looks at crumbling country on the verge of national civil unrest*
This must be the young people's fault.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 03:25

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

New DNC Strategy: Blame your constituents for losing elections.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 03:26

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

The Left-Wing and it's the Bernie Sanders bird in front of an attack on Titan style left wing.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 03:53

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

The dems need to focus on the working class over the next 4 years, affordable housing, single Payer/universal healthcare, increasing the minimum wage, tuition free public college/university, raising corporate taxes and closing loopholes to generate revenue, infrastructure improvement projects that train and hire unskilled workers etc.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 05:00

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

There's a huge chunk of the populace that just doesn't vote, campaigning on issues that directly affect people and get them excited can turnout enough new voters to compensate the socially liberal and economically conservative voters that have hijacked the party and might drift over to Trump, most of these issues tend to poll well with independents.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 05:04

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Terrorists aren't going to try to hijack planes, and the ones that do will get overwhelmed by passengers, the TSA can be massively scales down.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 06:30

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

SpaceGoku posted:

I think americans don't care if they actually earn something or not, we just want to FEEL like we earned it

that's why we hate participation trophies

like, here's an idea: free collage is cool and is urgently needed, but people will immediately call it a give-away, and the people in rural communities especially will rightly connect it with the government encouraging further brain and talent drain from their community, they'll correctly see it as the government encouraging a further marginalization of their life and their history (even if they don't openly recognize those connections)

but what if instead, the government would subsidize your entire education if you worked for 20 hours a week in your home community on community service projects during your summer break, maybe even give them a little spending money they can put back into their home towns while they're at it, nothing much, like maybe $500 each summer or something on top of the education funding business

and a lot of people have A LOT of student debt that is just crushing them

what if the government would pay it off if you joined a civic corps and worked on projects in your home town one weekend a month and two weeks a year (this may sound familiar) for X number of years

like those kinds of programs would probably be decently received

What if instead, we just make it free, and pay for it with corporate tax dollars.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 09:50

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

We don't want the poors to have to easy, they're already coasting by in their cadillacs with their diamond chains.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 10:03

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 02:21

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Looks like Bernie might have his first post-election victory, looks like the DAPL is dead.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1328716083847271&id=1194419550610259

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 22:32

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