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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

FizFashizzle posted:

a. you're unemployed now. what was the kill video you claimed existed?

b. who does the dnc unite around? what figure can they base 2018 around and expect any success? is it the bernie/warren wing? surely it's not the booker (black male hillary) side of things

B. It's Bernie and Bernie alone. Warren has already bent the knee. Assuming he doesn't and I don't think he will.

He's not going to run again but hopefully he plays the part of party elder and uses his newfound fame to promote someone. Best guess is Gabbard but who knows who will emerge. gently caress Booker.

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Venom Snake posted:

Yeah, but like I'm more interested in how we fix the failures than just screaming into the void yknow? We can argue about the actual person clinton herself but I think the biggest gently caress ups lay with her high level campaign operatives tbh

Guillotines

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Sun Wu Kampf posted:

This deserves to be quoted. I can think of very few left-wing icons that are less likable than Lena Dunham the fat exhibitionist pedophile, or Lady Gaga the... seriously jesus christ what the gently caress were they thinking.

https://twitter.com/BronzeHammer/status/794215575576870912

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Oh Snapple! posted:

Lena Dunham's mental picture of New York City is one without black people lol

It's about trustafarians in Williamsburg. It's kinda accurate.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Hillarys word salad answers and lack of being able to convey positions made her unlikeable to me. And the wall st poo poo but that's the bernout in me talking.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

HannibalBarca posted:

2018 would have to be a massive, and I mean TRULY MASSIVE, 1932-level wave for the Democrats to meaningfully alter outcomes. There's something like 9 senate seats up for election in Trump-friendly states and two realistic chances to flip Republican seats blue. 2018 is not gonna save the Democratic party unless it undergoes some massive, massive structural shifts in the next year and is blessed with an extraordinarily gifted generation of new leadership.

*klaxon sounds*

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

sportsgenius86 posted:

I never said millenials weren't struggling. A lot of them are. The ones that are don't happen to be the ones driving the grassroots effort for the party right now because they were pushed out by the people I'm talking about.

LOL if you think Dunham is grassroots for the Dems.

*cranes neck to all of the young people who for the first time got involved with the primary process and GOTV for Bernie*

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Guillotines IMO.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
That looks like a person who should totally be shaping the party after losing 2 bids on the presidency. Sure, why not dems, why not!

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lmao russ feingold asked for help and they did nothing ahahahahahahahahahahaha gently caress the clintons forever. tar feather and shame each and every hillaryman

BERNIE IS BAD BECAUSE HES NOT HELPING DOWN TICKET!!!!!!! - Hillpeople back in May.

Get hosed assholes.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what the gently caress did they spend money on if not downticket races that needed help? 450 mil on Hamilton tickes?!?!?!?

sensual pantsuits

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Mister Fister posted:

These are the same people belittling Millenials for not having jobs with no consequences in this forum. This is why hugboxes are bad.

The random out of nowhere Bernie finger wagging that was happening in that thread up to election day was just crazy to me.

I voted for her even though Bernie was is and always will be My Guy but it left a really loving bad taste in my mouth.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

HannibalBarca posted:

they were chasing goddamn rainbows with it. "Oh, we're gonna win white women! We're gonna flip Arizona! We're gonna flip Georgia! We're gonna be competitive in Texas! We're gonna win college educated whites!"

And it's all just a smoking crater now.

*insert Sulk and co posting about a Blue Texas with the j/o emoticon while whispering YASSS QWEEEENNN*

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I took money out of an ATM in Burlington once and Dean was behind me in line wearing pants covered in paint. Real salt of the earth guy!

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Typo posted:

no because the democrats are idiots and probably don't understand you can just pass gun control laws in blue states and if the red states wants to shoot at each other so be it

Yeah, its cool how all the guns ravaging the south side of chicago come from a red state that's allowed to shoot at other red states.

Gun control doesnt work unless it's uniform across all states.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

this is deliciously salty.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
:lol: I just checked Clara Jeffery's twitter and goddamn she's burying her head in the sand pretty deep.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

HannibalBarca posted:

There's a lot to digest here, and I hope that the next generation of DNC leadership realizes that.

Are we allowed to Bernie thread style shitpost because I already posted it but the Bernie running gif applies here too.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

bump_fn posted:

putting johnny 290s post itt

This works even better when you look at the original post he quotes. Goddamn Jonny.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Its funny how the superdelegates were in the wrong party.

I mean, they shouldn't exist to begin with but :lol:

Also gently caress closed primaries, I'm looking at you NY State.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Peztopiary posted:

The Democrats lost because they said "...those jobs are gone now." and didn't immediately follow it up with "...and we're going to hang the bastards on Wall Street who stole them." They should have attacked Wall Street in the most violently populist terms possible, because no one who works there is even slightly sympathetic. Anyone who thinks of themselves as a citizen of the world rather than as an American has poo poo to offer poor people.

One Democrat said that...

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Yep, this one is a reallll kick in the nuts.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Mormon Star Wars posted:

DNC throws Muslims under the bus consistently for the last year and a half and then wonders why so many in Michigan voted third party. Hmmmmmm.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/muslim-american-voters-bernie-sanders-irpt/

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The bottom line is, there has to be a genuine campaign for socialist policies because they will benefit everyone. It can't be sold as a wonkish policy "product" to seize the now-coveted white working poor demographic.

This phrase still gives me whiplash.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

He had some of the best twitter meltdowns.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Well What Now posted:

Addressing the concerns of poor white Americans is not mutually exclusive with advancing social justice in racial matters.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.

New thread title IMO.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

SerCypher posted:

Someone else asked, this, but what /is/ the best way to fight against the neoliberal faction of the democratic party.

Protests? Calls? Is there some way to get involved with the politics of the party locally? I'm out of school, so it's not like I can just join a campus club.

How does someone who up until now has just be like 'eh gently caress it' try and start influencing things (even on a small/regional level).

Guillotines.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I have an opinion on Dean as Chair: it's bad. real bad.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/796856031393423360

:barf:

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Karl Barks posted:

a bunch of facebook friends are sharing that vox leslie knope letter about donald trump and saying poo poo like "crying rn" and i'm like, are you kidding me.

Honestly, this ruined Parks and Rec for me. And I love that show.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

triple sulk posted:

The woman you spoke with is subconsciously racist.

This, this right here, stop loving doing that.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I'm legit loving worried about an economic repeat of 2008 but this time its going to be way worse since the banks are even bigger. That was one of the few things I repeated over and over about Hillary and now we got an even more extreme version of that. Christ.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Typo posted:

OTOH if 2018 turns out to be another crisis year 2020 might see a democratic administration with some spine to pass public option

What does it matter when we're plunged into Great Depression 2.0.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Lastgirl posted:



and then they will call Bernie... the Real Deal :bern101:

:bernpop:

Its oddly comforting to communicate in Bernmojis again.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Nonsense posted:

jebuela's are turning into salt mines that throw shade at any analysis though.

Its absolute insanity in that thread right now aside from the cool and good night crew posters. Just repeated blaming of voters and salt.

Though that article lit a fire of good posts.

Ok, I'll stop meta posting and keep worrying about wall st.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Cool, Maddow burying her head in the sand and blaming Russia. Sweet.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Warren on Maddow is coming on next. This should be interesting after he knee bent so fast she broke the floor.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Venom Snake posted:



If she gets the dems +1 seat in congress it will actually be useful. I won't complain until she starts trying to ruin other peoples time.

Nope. NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Cubey posted:

jesus in heaven

i hope she doesn't even get chosen as the democratic senate candidate for her state

She'd get ripped to shreds in the NY State Senate.

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Nonsense posted:

Her hubby works for Goldman Sachs. She's definitely going to be mentioned.

I forgot about this :lol:

It never ends with them.

Also, Liz Warren sucks. That interview was terrible and the fact that she's ok with hearing out Dean is just gross as hell.

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