cams posted:

protip: the majority of the people who post "ironically" and act detached from everything are scared babies that find having actual opinions or convictions too challenging cause what if someone argues with me and i'll start crying waaaaaaah

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Believe it or not, most of the people who disagree with you politically aren't terrible human beings, but, within the context of their understanding of reality, are doing the best they can to be the best people they can!!

For an effort post: my pops is a Christian pastor and "Reagan" Conservative, and all that goes along with that. He thought that Hillary was the devil. He thinks that homosexuality is a sin. However, none of that stops my dad from being the kindest, gentlest person I know. He loves and appreciates every gay person he meets, never lectures them or imposed his viewpoints on them. He treats everyone equally. He sat down and had several lunches with an Aryan Neo-nazi and genuinely tried to help the guy, even though my mom is Jewish and in this dude's worldview she was subhuman. My pops is really into the bible, and because of that he would put himself in danger or even lay down his life for a perfect stranger, even if they were the sinniesst "sinner" who had ever sinned.

And yeah, he probably voted for Trump (I haven't asked and I'm not going to). It's not because he's malicious, "deplorable", a nazi, or evil. It's really depressing to me to see on here people vilifying the millions upon millions of people who voted Trump and painting them all with the same brush. That's how we lost, and we'll lose again and again and again if we keep it up. That Neo-nazi I mentioned? I my dad had just screamed, "gently caress you buddy, my wife is Jewish" and socked him, then the guy would have one more reason to hate Jews. Instead, because loving people like my dad and that guy's family reached out, years later he came back into the fold of the Chrisian church and recanted his nazism.

So yeah, happy thanksgiving everybody. Treat you family members who disagree with you with kindness. Forgive them their Trump support, for they know not what they do. Recognize that politics is temporal and fleeting, but that family lasts Ito eternity.

Or jut be a smug little bitch and make everyone hate you.

Lumpy the Cook posted:

I'm not detached. I'm attached... To my kind, loving and understanding family.

Covok posted:

We live in NY. It does not matter.

Covok posted:

Let me tell you something about NY, upstate NY and Long Island is a cesspit redneck Utopia full of idioits who grow fat off the city and its wealth, get a bunch of dem laws from our senators, then contribute nothing back and bitch about liberals. They're beyond hope or salvation.

Grondoth posted:

Sure buddy, derision's really gotten us far

I live in Erie county. I work with the rural poor in Erie and Cattaraugus county. I used to be an environmental scientist until I couldn't stand seeing all the real and raw suffering the rural poor went through and went back to school to get into a social work program.

Dawg we can win over these people. They're desperate for any hope as their towns melt away and the only thing left is broken barns and faded painted advertisements. These places need the help that a party that isn't one of capital can give. Trump won't bring back the steel plants, but we sure as poo poo can put down factories to make wind turbines. Trump can't make things cost what they used to, but we can make them be paid what they should be. There's a core component of desperation and despair that if we just acknowledge and reach out to we can turn it into a willingness to work hard for political change. We just gotta try.

The idea that 30 minutes away from a city is just a wasteland isn't just wrong, it's unhelpful to our goals. The people out there aren't rabid racist hicks who supported Trump with all their heart and can't wait to burn mosques. Most of the people out there don't vote, and most of the people who vote don't give much of a goddamn poo poo about it. We can energize them. We're the only ones who can. We just can't rest in our enclaves and pretend they're all useless sub-humans.

Thursday Next posted:

yeah okay just give me a moment to make nice with the people who think I am a useless sub-human

this is truly a good method of handling racist anti-education temporarily embarrassed millionaires

I'm sure they'll treat me better, I swear I'll find another cheek to turn somewhere...

Feminasty Slut posted:

As a sane person though voting for Donald Trump was an objectively loving stupid thing to do. These morons will be shamed for it, both by us and the inevitable passage of time.

Trumpenproletariat posted:

i'm remembering that gbs thread where a goon complained about the crappy low-flush toilet his wife made him get, and then bragged about getting a 5 gallon american standard or something

then it was discovered that model didn't exist, so it was an elaborate toilet fantasy

Trumpenproletariat posted:

As a sane person with a safe and comfortable middle class lifestyle, sure it's objectively loving stupid.

As a sane person who is a few weeks away from homelessness with desperate, unemployed friends and relatives addicted to drugs? What the gently caress did they have to lose by throwing the dice? I don't think you understand quite how much despair the working class of this country is in at the moment.

Hillary was more of the same, everyone knew that. Anything is better than neoliberalism when you've been destroyed by it, even some kind of wishy washy pseudo fascism.

Trumpenproletariat posted:

Appalachian Pennsylvania, well known for its total lack of working class people. And even the middle classes there are suffering from dying town syndrome.

That spite and meanness is an outgrowth of predatory capitalism, friend. They may not know exactly what screwed them, but they know they've been screwed and they're angry about it. Hillary smugly spoke down to them, called them deplorables and told them she was going to put coal mines and miners out of business.

Trumpenproletariat posted:

because of presidential term limits, trump would only have enough time to do all the good stuff hitler did, like the autobahns and the economic recovery and not start a world war

def. and improvement on hillary starting a world war right away

Black Baby Goku posted:

The Reason Trump is President

Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:

That DICK! posted:

I wish it were still thanksgiving. The Turkey and he stuffing, the gravy and the mash

Terror Sweat posted:

theres nothing stopping you from eating that stuff right now

Terror Sweat posted:

theres nothing stopping you from eating that stuff right now

Princess Di posted:

It's the racism and misogyny, stupid. ~

Why railing against pc culture while drunk in your basement online became a successful political movement.

Trumpenproletariat posted:

It must be super handy to be able to wave away the views and votes of millions of americans with "racism, misogyny and deplorables", means you don't have to bother trying to engage or understanding your fellow person. there's just too many evil bad people around, only evil bad people would vote for someone other than yaaaas queen. nothing we can do but continue with neoliberal "wokeness"

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

lmao whose rereg are you

TheLightPurges posted:

Its not Thanksgiving.

Al! posted:

take a wild fuckin guess (nml)

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Bull burr had an awesome tactic for dealing with these arguments that probably made for better thanksgivings then the ones in the Op. It boiled down to two words: "Fair enough."
Someone tries to intiate political discussion? Hear what they have to say and then respond "fair enough" and then go back to watching the cowboys or eating potatoes or sneaking into the garage to smoke bowls with your cool aunt.

cmerepaul posted:

Maybe we should round up all the jews!

Fair enough.

Maybe we should invade Poland.

Fair enough.

(fast forward 10 years)

HOW ON EARTH COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED?