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Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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1500quidporsche posted:

Hulkenberg is the white bread of F1 drivers. Utterly flavourless and bland.

Bread is merely a delivery system for delicious butter. Therefore he is the ultimate second driver for Nando.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Tsaedje posted:

The actual quote: "You have to consider Fernando," Wolff told Sky Sports. "He is a driver I respect a lot. He combines talent, speed and experience. It's all there.""

So some lovely Sky journo asked him if they were considering Alonso and he gave a nonchalant response. Now that means They're definitely going to buy out Alonso's contract?? :lol:

If Ron Dennis is to be believed, there were no escape clauses in Alonso's McLaren contract and it is properly ironclad. If that really is the case, I doubt McLaren would easily be tempted by the prospect of buying out his final year given that the road car and technology business sustains the F1 team even without a title sponsor.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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wicka posted:

McLaren Automotive is a separate company that the group only directly owns 3% of. McLaren Applied Technologies is a relatively tiny business. The F1 team is funded primarily by Honda, who love Alonso more than anything in the entire world.

Ah, fair enough. Still, they picked up something like $80m from the constructors in 2015 despite their dismal performance. So couple that with the Honda sugar daddy bux and the point still stands.

Actually, kind of like a sugar daddy they pay McLaren's bills and in exchange McLaren have to do things they're not keen on. Like having Honda inside of them. :classiclol:

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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Alain Post posted:

"Craptoss Shites" is good

Cumload Stains

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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1500quidporsche posted:

Looks like Lewis moved under braking there.

Vintage Schumacher. Hill ate it and so did Villeneuve.

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Jul 22, 2014

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BubbaGrace posted:

Thanks m8, but I only remember one woman being involved in this. Im having slight flashbacks of her watching on the tv in the garage almost having a panic attack while Lewis and Jenson (still not sure if its these two) are battling it out on track.

There's no way it is possible given the criteria you've said. Jenson was dating Jessica Michibata and Lewis was dating Nicole Scherzinger, there are no familial connections between the two drivers' then partners.

Also, and maybe this is just me, Lewis and Jenson's partnership was never really that tense. It was more Lewis being a moron on social media and Jenson driving him into a pit wall that one time.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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BubbaGrace posted:

It's very possible she was dating one and was just friends with the other. It's been a long time and I haven't thought about this since it was happening. I did some looking and found a video from Turkey 2010. The woman at 1:25 is who I was talking about. They don't show all of it, but she was in full on panic mode, yelling at the screen and everything throughout the race. I know this wasn't the only incident either and I'm 90% certain the interviews did happen with her saying she could fix the problems. Sorry in advance for the moonspeak and russian social media site. Its the best I could find.

https://vk.com/video28113723_159399295

Yeah that's Scherzinger. She had no influence on Jenson or any meaningful relationship to him, though I suspect that around that time it was when her career as a solo artist and an X Factor judge was taking off, so chatting bollocks to get in the public eye was probably in her interest, regardless of the truth.

Fun fact: she now advertises yoghurt in the UK.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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George Zimmer posted:

Is it like good yogurt or the kind that's intended to make you poop?

No, it's the kind where she 'accidentally' smears it on her face and it looks like a lovely porn blooper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeQPTwWMsOw

y'know, because we all make our yoghurt decision on whether or not it looks like a money shot from a blue movie.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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Since we're on the subject of cool and good F1 team mate videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E7-1-rUVTc

ETA: I suspect that decision may have been no easier to make this season as Nico beat Lewis to become WDC and Michael is a vegetable and could still probably have outdriven Nico.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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A fitting metaphor for their time as teammates.

Human Lewis is so much more likeable. I hope he's less of a petulant twat in 2017.

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Jul 22, 2014

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R14k8_9jN30

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Jul 22, 2014

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El Hefe posted:

I was watching the 1994 Japanese GP yesterday and you can't fault him for spinning out imho, it was loving drenched.

That the same GP where Brundle span off trying to kill a marshall?

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Jul 22, 2014

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learnincurve posted:

Oh my sweet summer child. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that that particular sub reddit is 90% "modelling" pictures of Mrs Jenson, Mrs Alonso and Mrs Kimi.

My dick is going to be red raw thanks to this.

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Jul 22, 2014

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wicka posted:

She said Mrs Jenson, not Jenson.

Ah, you're right. Sorry, I misread that.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Rosberg has a sense of humor?

Lol at mocking Rosberg's sense of humour when his teammate was Lewis Hamilton.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Lip service. If they can get out of the contract without buying it out they're still 'respecting' it.

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Jul 22, 2014

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https://twitter.com/kamui_kobayashi/status/806861669074751488

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Jul 22, 2014

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BubbaGrace posted:

I think it says somewhere in the rules that Honda has to supply more than one team, problem is nobody wants it or cares.

If a team cannot secure an engine deal, the engine supplier with the least number of engines supplied must provide them.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

The future is not even that bright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt4Epm5emzA

:getin: give that man a seat at Mercedes

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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learnincurve posted:

Not gonna fib, have watched the F1 on my phone.

It's a problem with advertising to the mainstream. In all fairness in the UK all the sky sports channels in fairly decent quality and pay as you go is £30 a month, which is good value for money, as you can have two devices/people using it at the same time and sharing the cost. How many people know about this or even want to watch the F1? I would argue that F1's main competition is the WWE with a dash of reality TV thrown in, and that in order to grow it must improve the broadcast quality and include more real life stories so people can get invested in it. I've said before that having a MTV reality show following a pit crew around would bring in a huge audience of young people, and as it's separate from the actual race show it can be easily avoided by adults.

Biggest issue with f1 for me is Crofty is an even more unlikeable heel Michael Cole, only we never get to see the pay off where people beat the poo poo out of him with a table. It's like there is no one regulating the Sky F1 broadcasts and the people who are supposed to don't actually listen to the god awful commentary. Sky own the rights, not the company who film the broadcasts, someone needs to step in and go "OK Brundle can stay in the crazy old man who sometimes comes out with good one liners role. Ted, you keep doing your thing where you explain nerd stuff so people can understand it. The rest of you talentless freeloaders can gently caress off."

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Crofty is a useless twat. He's got like a 50% hit rate on guessing which driver is which during the race and actively makes the commentary a hindrance to the entertainment. Ben Edwards on the other side is a loving dry lunch as well. We were spoiled in the days of are Murray.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Fo3 posted:

Does not compute.
Bless your Murray but he got it wrong at lot of the times after yelling a lot at the starts.
Part of the entertainment was his attempt at recovery and working it all out.
Crofty is OK. He makes mistakes and probably just isn't entertaining enough in comparison, but he's not your mum murray and no one will ever be.

I do not like Jake or EJ though.

I can forgive his sins because he was supremely entertaining and worked so well with James Hunt's dry wit. Crofty's lame attempts at humour fall flat, he isn't particularly insightful and continues to flog the dead horse that is #askCrofty whereby you ask him questions which he answers with how good Lewis Hamilton is. I get the impression that most of the Sky F1 team tolerate him at best.

There has to be a better commentator out there, but two former drivers as commentators, whilst interesting, would be pretty dry for the non-nerd viewers.

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Jul 22, 2014

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El Hefe posted:

I liked when Alonso owned Brundle.

When was that?

I did enjoy Kimi's grid interview with Brundle from wayback...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqy4uClJcs4

But Nando loving owning Johnny Herbert on live TV for suggesting he was past it and should retire is a 2016 highlight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lAIx6MrePw

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Jul 22, 2014

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And Felipe stirring it up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypHfOQxZzBs

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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gret posted:

The hybrid era cars are easy to drive in that drivers are lifting and coasting through corners and driving at 60% to optimize fuel consumption and tire wear.

Also they have proper slick tyres which improve mechanic grip significantly, whereas the 2008 cars were still on that grooved poo poo designed to lower cornering speeds (which admittedly lasted a drat sight better).

It's a fun comparison to look back at the old 80s BMW and Renault engines in qualy trim pumping out ~1500bhp and see what a properly unhinged turbo engine in an F1 car can reduce a driver to. I have hero worship for drivers in most eras of F1, but that was one where power was Group B rallying levels of insane and there was a very real chance you could still go to an F1 weekend and not go home on Sunday evening.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Go on then, off-season question: who do you consider the best F1 driver of all time and who do you consider the best racing driver of all time, regardless of discipline?

For me it has to be Jim Clark as the former and Ari Vatanen as the latter.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Fangio or Clark is always a conflict for me. I think Clark was the best F1 driver because he managed to survive long enough to win 2 WDC in cars that were lethal in an era of non-existent safety. I mean you could argue Stewart won 3 during the same era, but Stewart freely admits that Clark was the superior driver without reservation. But then you look at Fangio's 5 WDC in an era with even more scant regard for safety and the only justification I can come up with is speed, the sophistication of going faster (I.e. Colin Chapman) and an extra decade of seeing just how much of a gamble formula racing was. Clark's era was a much more lethal one in terms of driver fatalities.

It's a tough call, but it's always interesting to see who people say. The Andretti, Prost, Senna and Schumacher answers are good and I always expected a Foyt answer! Want to see some more Group B drivers though, those guys were certifiable.

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Jul 22, 2014

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iospace posted:

Also, for the sake of completeness: Michelle Mouton best female driver, period.

And demonstrably better than most of the male drivers at one point.

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Jul 22, 2014

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learnincurve posted:

If being bat poo poo insane, having balls of steel, and surviving, is the qualifier then John Surtees is the king of them all.

"Having hit a cow..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U86KCmGnVO4

Good shout, competing in the TT is basically a way to out yourself as a nutcase.

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Jul 22, 2014

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freeranger posted:

In a world of What If's, who would have been considered the worse champion. Irvine or Massa?

Both would've been brilliant and richly deserved imo. :shrug:

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Jul 22, 2014

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Bit of off-season watching for anybody who is interested.

Documentary about the rise and fall of Group B rallying: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xty1w4_bbc-madness-on-wheels-rallying-s-craziest-years_shortfilms

Documentary about F1 in the 60s and 70s and how the drivers pushed for safety regulations: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x14el38_grand-prix-the-killer-years-documentary_auto

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Vettel's lid design post Red Bull is good. Far better than the glittering shite he changed at each race or that weird lid at Abu Dhabi that had flashing lights on it.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Carth Dookie posted:

No but they absolutely care about having a guy who is a known quantity who can help develop the car. If Merc pays enough for Bottas for Massa to make sense, then he'd be back quicksmart, especially if the only reason he decided to leave was because of money behind the scenes, rather than him actually being done with F1.

I reckon Di Resta would be a more likely arse in a vacated Williams seat than Massa. He's still within the Mercedes stable.

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HJB posted:

I totally agree, it's a shame Red Bull swapped Max in for him

lol

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Jul 22, 2014

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Hamwalleton.

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Jul 22, 2014

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Khablam posted:

You were the friend in the group who won Street Fighter one time then refused any rematches and claimed you were the best, weren't you?

Anyone with any sense can see Rosberg peaced out because he realised one title was all he would get. He wouldn't be "retiring on top" if he thought he was a multi-WDC to be.

This. As much of a dog whistle racist I am because I am British and think Hamwalleton is a plonker according to some random poo poo head who decided to grace us with their presence in this thread, Rosberg left not to wind Hamilton up but because he knew if his hit rate was 2 out of 3 he'd end his racing career in obscurity. Despite his barely veiled "first time he's won in 18 years" comment, Hamilton is kind of right, even if he is being a dick for it. I respect Rosberg for that decision. I am also very slowly warming to Hamilton, the person not the lovely instafacetwit persona, because of his lovely comments directed at those who fall by the wayside which are pure Lauda rival-baiting 'gently caress you' comments.

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iospace posted:

Nah, Massa and Lewis collide, resulting in this:


Massa and Lewis collide, further hotting up their battle for...



...MWDC 2017.

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Jul 22, 2014

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1500quidporsche posted:

Then he wins and I'll be mildly annoyed that people will continue thinking he's some super Senna until he leaves the Red Bull marketing sphere ala Vettel. Life will go on.

Or moves to Are Ron's Manor Project 5 after his Red Bull WDC and wins his second WDC. :catbert:

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1500quidporsche posted:

If this happens I WILL meltdown.

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poty posted:

Would be fantastic, finally a Brit F1 commentator who is not anti-Lewis

You can have Crofty and his on air fellating of Hamwalleton.

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poty posted:

Are we talking about David "Rosberg deserved to win the championship" Croft here??

He changed his tune after 'Ask Crofty' became literally impossible what with the floods of tweets calling him out on always making excuses for Hamilton. IIRC the only pundit on Sky that called 2016 for Rosberg was Ted Kravitz.

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