A Neurotic Corncob posted:

act now on this rare opportunity to give us 350 bucks for nothing.

Regrettable posted:

I'm pretty sure it's trying to say they're selling 60 tickets but only 20 at a time.

Daztek posted:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/ptu-feedback-gravlev-functionality


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqSC6phPK3U

The Titanic posted:

But I mean, that'd be creative in a science fiction environment, in a Chris Roberts game. So... gently caress your ideas. It's space WW2 with grunge and dim lighting and flickering lights and exposed conduits; under which massively under appreciated mega-technology rests but goes entirely ignored.

Beet Wagon posted:

new jpeg prices:

C2 (civilian cargo): $300 fresh cash/$360 store credit

M2 (militarized cargo): $400 fresh cash/$480 store credit

A2 (gunship): $600 fresh cash/$700 store credit

As usual, only fresh cash purchases come with LTI and there's a $1500 bundle that includes all three

like what does it take for people to go "hang on I think these guys might be loving me"

trucutru posted:

They also sell gift cards, but they don't count as cash.

Daztek posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/8h5eif/cig_your_promotions_are_getting_out_of_control/

quote:

I feel I'm in the minority here -- I truly don't care how many gazillion dollar ships they sell. If what they say is true (operating large ships will be expensive and difficult), almost all of the people buying these types of ships are making a huge mistake. They're gonna get into the PU once the game goes beta w/ progression, launch their shiny new 800 dollar ship... and get blown up.

Then, they'll be staring at that insurance premium, realizing it'll be like 1/4 of their money, then if they don't want to die again, they're gonna need to hire escorts or AI gunners. I don't think that many people will be able to hack that.

Aside from a few large orgs that actually organize properly, I highly doubt we're gonna see that many ships like this actually doing content. So screw it, let them donate to the game. Whatever CIG wants to do to milk the "whales" is fine with me. As long as they don't screw over those of us who don't want to totally skip progression, I'm fine with it.

quote:

I think ship progression is going to piss off one of the two groups of players.

If the progression is extremely grindy to make the "whales" happy about their purchase, the rest of the player base will be bored. I'd wager the majority of players will start the game with only an Aurora or Mustang.

If the game is not grindy and you can get a "multiple hundred dollar"-ship (the majority of ships cost that much) in a few days of regular play, then the whales will be furious.

But I agree with you, let the whales spend their money and let us hope CIG makes the right choices.

peter gabriel posted:

It's truly remarkable that spurious fleecing methods like 'warbonds' and store credit, melting ships, lifetime loving insurance and the rest for unfinished assets in an unfinished game have become a normal part of backers everyday dialogue, yet to an outsider popping in it's like an alien language where nerds are plainly getting screwed over yet have become so used to it they cannot see it.

his nibs posted:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/258713779?t=01h34m51s




#notacult

Virtual Captain posted:

CIG could be in serious trouble
https://clips.twitch.tv/BigCalmJackalDuDudu

Mirificus posted:

Jobbo_Fett posted:

So Elite: Dangerous just has a solo mode, which is essentially "Offline Mode", whereas SotA has no offline mode, and Star Citizen's offline mode engages every time it crashes.

Hav posted:

The Bind Culling Problem

Well, it's not because of server sync, see;



Although point #5 appears to suggest that the client *is* effecting server speed.

The other worrying point is that he says himself, 'Fidelity is the enemy of performance'. This brings into play what the targets for performance should be be (as a metric, because you can measure it) versus what the Fidelity should be, which is entirely subjective.

SoftNum posted:

I think Mr. Turing actually had issues with another culling program.


But as to the scam-ness of star citizen, let's not forget that Croberts himself said in Jan 2015 that Squadron 42 was coming in Fall of 2015. That's a product ready to launch in 9 months.

Squadron 42 is an cinematic FPS. People make them all the loving time. Crysis/Lumberyard is more or less the perfect engine for them. None of the PTU additions or features should've dragged on SQ42. FPSes themselves are bog easy. It used to be conventional wisdom around game dev shops to release an FPS first cause it was easy and you'd get at least some revenue. When you know you are going to launch SQ42 in 9 months, you better have a pretty loving good idea of where it is in development.

It is now May of 2018. CR is 32 months late on that promise, that can't be blamed on backers or bind culling or mesh servers or Crysis or anything. that is almost a 400% overrun. So in reality, we are left with two options. A) Chris Roberts is so loving incompetent that he shouldn't be given the licence to develop anything, or B) it was a lie. B seems WAY more likely. But he still sat on that stage an said it. He didn't say (at that time) don't trust my dates. He took pre-orders for "coming in fall 2015" for 9 months after that.

This is why Star Citizen is a scam. Chris will stand up and tell whatever lie he needs to get people to buy. Are they working on a game? Sure kinda looks like it. Will it ever be done? Who knows. Does that excuse raising money on blatantly untrue statements? Nope.


EDIT: I also love when I read about Dead Reckoning thrown in as an improvement CIG needs to make to code. Every modern engine does this as a matter of course.

Agony Aunt posted:

I wonder if every time CR says he wants more fidelity the devs weep.

Quavers posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddj3wv5xeb4

peter gabriel posted:

Montoya: Chris will never do this:



Chris Roberts: Hold my loving beer nerds

Bumbler posted:

Here's the abridged version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azZ0WqhM_ps

Daztek posted:

Oh, I guess it's okay!

Wonder why CIG keeps reworking stuff over and over though

Gort posted:

Never releasing or even deciding on the scope of a product is a cornerstone of agile development

Quavers posted:

RAGE 2 looks cool and good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rQMytyBFeA

G0RF posted:

New ATV preview on Kiosk Interface improvements + a new Ship Shape about the Vanduul Blade.

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/996895746917109760

1) I hope the Vanduul Blade requires players to use the ceremonial spiky sticksword of tribal Vanduul leaders to start the ignition. Preferably with the player looking at the spiky sticksword and engaging an inner though interface written entirely in Vanduul because realism.

2) “Where we’re currently at is probably the most exciting part. We have base functionality already working...” (In year 6, base functionality of the revised shopping kiosks are a go... the gameplay possibilities are endless!!!)

G0RF posted:

YOUTUBE: Calling All Devs - Capital Ship Navigation & Death of a Spaceman

Two especially thorny topics... let’s see how they handled them.

Mirificus posted:

G0RF posted:

Sandi’s new movie is rolling ahead.

Her bloody (literally) visage is bigger on the movie poster than Eric Roberts’ or Nick Bateman’s. Good for her! (Also, her name is spelled wrong... oops!)

The movie tagline: “What is your perception of a lie?”

TheAgent posted:

actually most of the problems with TLJ reside squarely with rian johnson

I had high hopes for him, but he seemed to get lost in the budget

quote:

 I realized that CIG is growing up. I’m still salty by the sale, but they are willing to trade a bit of our faith from 2013 to ensure the project is healthy.

Daztek posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2RGtL2AGN4

trucutru posted:

A constellation is $250, multiple that for 3 and that's $750 worth of JPEG for 60 hours of "work". At $12.50 an hour forget Chinese farmers, you'll have Swiss ones multiboxing the poo poo out of the game. Sure, they won't be able to get full prize for their wares but the result is the same anyways: nobody will buy at the official store.

Quavers posted:

https://clips.twitch.tv/LittleImportantPineappleEleGiggle

Dementropy posted:

XK posted:

There must be an internal division over at Intel that's super embarrassed about all the money and effort they put into Optane tech development. I can't even imagine the usage scenario for Optane memory except for suspend/wake. Just spend the few seconds streaming the memory image from your Optane drive into memory upon wake.

I don't get it.

Now Intel has made slower memory that wears. Good work, everybody.

Sarsapariller posted:

Here's his second video showing flight and procedural planets. Literally more than Star Citizen, 1 guy, part time on weekends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h26WDHb4UdM

Beet Wagon posted:

It's gotten to the point where I can no longer tell the hype videos from the mock videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G04lc2tn2SU

VictorianQueerLit posted:

I mean this poo poo is all psychological. If you can pretend CIG has actually made progress or that the ATVs actually show content or that your money is being well spent or that development is actually on track then of course it's a small step to go "Man (______) is cool and only confirms exactly what I want myself to believe!"

Trying to apply reality or objective facts to Star Citizen backers has consistently failed since the kickstarter. Nothing will ever work and anyone operating on a rational basis will constantly be on a different wavelength.

Seriously, an asteroid could end human civilization and they would be in a flooded subway station licking algae off of the walls talking about how they just need to wait for CIG to get a generator going at the offices that most surely survived so they can finish up 4.0. Chris Roberts is such a genius he obviously saw the asteroid coming and planned for it. Nobody will ever break a faith based viewpoint as long as the people that need it, need it.

Hav posted:

No, they're AS deluded. You can't get more deluded than pinning your hopes and dreams on a single person, living or dead.

Network Bind Culling, fast becoming my favourite thing, is nearly done. What does the site say about this?

"This work aims to help improve performance in multiplayer by cutting down the number of entities that exist on clients. Entities too far from a player will be removed from the local client, and when the player moves or the server otherwise detects new entities entering the player's range they will be added to the client. Because clients will then only consider updating entities that are near to them the overall CPU load will be reduced and performance should improve."

Seems reasonable, right? Except CPU isn't the bottleneck that you have to watch out for here, it's streaming in however many entities are within range, so when you navigate to your beacons, you're going to have a delay as all the containers within range update. They actually made this worse by using specific exit points, which makes me think that they're gonna do grid from a known 0,0,0.