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DeusExMachinima posted:So what's the over/under on these protests today yielding long-term coalitions that actually get poo poo done? Most of these things tend to last until the other team gets back in power, then they get disbanded, then the next time they're needed they have to take a few years to get it together again. The over-under is 29. How will you bet? (Don't use terminology you don't understand please) Further, women's groups are constantly forming and reforming, regardless of who's in charge. This is a half-baked question within a half-baked idea, resulting in the sadly-not-very-rare quarter-baked post. Grats.
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# ? Jan 21, 2017 23:36 |
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oh my god those are absolutely amazing!
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# ? Jan 21, 2017 23:39 |
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Get out. This thread is about feminism. This thread is not about you. Get out.
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# ? Jan 21, 2017 23:39 |
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botany posted:oh my god those are absolutely amazing! This machine kills fascists. I also absolutely love that they're taking the Reagan iconography of "tear down this wall" and shoving it back in Trump's face. Given that he needs to take the mantle of Reagan to gain legitimacy on the right, it's smart imo. Protest sick burn signs are overall on point today. Mission Accomplished, ladies.
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# ? Jan 21, 2017 23:41 |
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Lightning Knight posted:This machine kills fascists. I liked the kids with the my two mom signs
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stone cold posted:I liked the kids with the my two mom signs The "keep your tiny hands off my rights" sign might be the most scorching burn tho.
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# ? Jan 21, 2017 23:43 |
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yes please do! I read a ton about archaeology and one thing I read lately talked about how sexist assumptions work their way into interpretations of what objects were for or art was depicting. Female figures are always "fertility" figures, any skeleton buried with weapons was a man, etc. Do you know anything about that? Yeah yeah yeah! Also I heard a theory once (I can't remember where) that those headless "fertility figures" could be self-portraits of women? Like the exaggerated breasts/belly and tapered feet are a pretty convincing likeness to when you look down at your own body, which was an interesting take. IDK if that's a real archeological take or just an Internet take though. I'm pretty down for any posts on history/sociology/anthropology that debunk patriarchal thought. Post-election I've found a couple of my otherwise cool male friends have been spending way too much time reading r/atheism and have terrible opinions re:feminism. So far the fastest way to shut them up has throwing academic research/papers/the dictionary/etc in their face. Precious that a group that prides itself on "rational thought" spends so little time actually reading published scientific papers.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 00:16 |
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A little late but I just wanted to let y'all know that even Antarctica had a Women's March today. The uh, "powers that be" however slapped a lot of bullshit on the participants too. So there were no signs allowed. Even some clothing was banned (which I think was an attempt to keep people from participating more than anything).
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 00:53 |
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Looks to me like Antarctica had signs https://twitter.com/Pecator/status/822895211076521984 unless you were referring to somewhere else?
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 01:04 |
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Lightning Knight posted:This machine kills fascists. An incredibly apt saying considering Guthrie spoke out against Trump Sr. in his day.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 01:10 |
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Defenestration posted:Looks to me like Antarctica had signs Oh man I heard they couldn't use them. Or rather the rules was "You're not allowed to use USAP materials for this protest", with the catch being that everything down here is UASP materials. They probably got help from Scott Base. EDIT: Got a buddy with WIFI access to load it. That's one of the research vessels that float around and potentially not a USAP/NSF vessel. They have different rules. I'm talking about the march in McMurdo Station. Crain fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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My favourite part of today's protests was while on the bus, near a higher-income area. Lots of elderly women out. One woman with a walker and her sign - "Equal pay for equal work!" gently caress yeah, ma'am!
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 01:35 |
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From the anti foodporn thread. Dave Grool posted:Relative made a thing in support of the Women's March:
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 02:10 |
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https://twitter.com/alexia/status/823004763835011073
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 04:52 |
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Depends on what you mean by "actual evidence." Women talking about their bodies and experiences tends to be confined to anecdotes, because men and the institutions they control are dismissive or outright hostile to them. Until there's a court case or something you're not going to get much more than women saying "yeah that happened to me." Men can always reflexively say "no it didn't" so it just comes down to who you're more inclined to listen to. So, no, in other words. Given the very real existence of misogyny in certain aspects of healthcare, why double down on an urban legend? It doesn't even make sense physiologically, much less as a supposed routine medical practice that would in reality get any doctor attempting it fired and disbarred as well as almost certainly sued for malpractice.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 07:26 |
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The Insect Court posted:So, no, in other words. Right, just like all rapists are in prison.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 07:35 |
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This is really giving me flashbacks to the great "latinx" debacle of the early misogynoir thread (which TIC scrabbled his oily carapace into as well, iirc). Something mentioned in passing, fully understood by all participants in the actual conversation, must be picked apart to death by the shrieking goon horde because conversation between anyone but white men will. not. stand.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 07:38 |
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 07:41 |
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Its the misogyny, stupid is an American Prospect article on the recent election that had this little tidbit I hadn't even thought of:quote:More urgent than the problem of Pussygate for many white Americans, evangelical and not, was the problem of Eve, the original signifyin’ woman, and her 21st-century avatar, Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the hefty catalog of misogynistic expression in the 2016 presidential campaign, the most determinative may well have been the Eve narrative in the collective unconscious: Whether the topic was Benghazi attacks or Clinton’s email server or the state of her health, the message, as conveyed by the Trump campaign, the Republican Congress, and the mainstream media, was that Clinton was hiding something. If you took a bite of the apple she offered you, you were doomed, forever expelled from Paradise.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 07:59 |
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lol christ, some of the worst things that you are saying that happens has no evidence except that the Patriarchy suppresses it. Have you considered that perhaps this does not happen? Like literally saying that any detractors are part of an overwhelming conspiracy, even if they do not know it? You got more in common with 9/11 was an inside job compared to any movement that exists. wait for me to be actioned, because I disparage and discount a viewpoint. Not because of the identity of the person but because they are asserting some really crazy poo poo. Please Slashie, I am sure there are boards you DO have mod status on. go there. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 08:35 |
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Oracle posted:Its the misogyny, stupid is an American Prospect article on the recent election that had this little tidbit I hadn't even thought of: He bankrupted a CASINO. How is that alone not enough to make someone think "that does not bode well for running an entire country". He took an institution guaranteed to basically print money and ran it into the ground.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 08:45 |
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Grognan posted:lol christ, some of the worst things that you are saying that happens has no evidence except that the Patriarchy suppresses it. Have you considered that perhaps this does not happen? Like literally saying that any detractors are part of an overwhelming conspiracy, even if they do not know it? You got more in common with 9/11 was an inside job compared to any movement that exists. You are a total dumbass. Get bent. quote:A 2016 investigation conducted by the Atlanta Journal Constitution analyzed public records from the last two decades and found more than 3,100 doctors nationwide had been publicly disciplined after accusations of sexual misconduct. It also found many violations were never reported publicly or uncovered by state medical boards.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 08:50 |
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I was talking about the "daddy stitch" you sociopathic person. The thing that she could not prove but retreated to "oh well there is no evidence because the patriarchy" SMGFTB Stonecold you are psychotically bent on your justifications of your beliefs. I like that you posted links that have nothing to do with TB's claims.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:04 |
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The fact that a rich, white, traditionally male profession, that abuses people that try to break into it is totally a thing. That is completely america. Please have some sources before gossip-level abuses are a thing.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:11 |
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Grognan posted:I was talking about the "daddy stitch" you sociopathic person. The thing that she could not prove but retreated to "oh well there is no evidence because the patriarchy" You're dumb. quote:Vaginal tightening surgery has been around since the mid fifties, where gynecologists used to tighten the entrance of a woman's vagina with an extra stitch while repairing vaginal and perineum tears or episiotomies after giving birth. At that time it was notoriously known as the “husband's stitch,” the “husband's knot,” or the “vaginal tuck,” and doctors discreetly referred to this procedure as “improving a woman's well-being.”
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:16 |
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Grognan posted:The fact that a rich, white, traditionally male profession, that abuses people that try to break into it is totally a thing. That is completely america. Please have some sources before gossip-level abuses are a thing. Typical for a man to come into feminism thread, take a dump on the floor, and call the women hysterical.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:18 |
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I love how all the fools come in here to tell us this thing totally doesn't happen and screech about evidence as if they actually give a poo poo whether it does or not.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:19 |
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Grognan posted:I was talking about the "daddy stitch" you sociopathic person. The thing that she could not prove but retreated to "oh well there is no evidence because the patriarchy" Jesus Christ Grognan, calm down. No need to be so virulently explosive against people. Get some therapy, you're acting downright hysterical. You really need to see a doctor or a few specialists to fix your psychotic behavior before you get violent with people (assuming you haven't already)
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:21 |
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I understand that protesting Trump was already part of the idea being the march, with the date chosen right after he got sworn in and with his opinions about women. But it was still a march first and foremost for women's rights, correct? Because while the march has been shared among a shitton of countries, which is awesome, they refer to it as "protest against Trump" in a lot of medias. They talk about it like it's just a political statement against Trump, and feminism and women's rights take at best the backseat. And while protesting Trump is certainly noble, I feel it dilutes the meaning of the march. Patriarchy and misogyny will outlast Trump's presidency, yet all this energy is being redirected against the clown instead of the forces that got him elected, and this really annoys me.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:23 |
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LOL reading those articles, this is not a thing that happens in first world countries and you are still psychotically doing your clam tickle thing. I am guessing you want a space that you feel safe from criticism but we actually read the studies here. Or more accurately you want a space that you can rage against an acceptable enemy without introspection. I am sure you can make a sub-Reddit but it would not have the audience you want. Please make up more things about me that justify not listening to me.
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Grognan posted:LOL reading those articles, this is not a thing that happens in first world countries and you are still psychotically doing your clam tickle thing. Dude, this is getting sociopathic. Like John Hinckley trying to impress an underaged Jodie Foster crazy. It is actually possible to talk with people without acting like this. Seek help.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:30 |
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Crain posted:Dude, this is getting sociopathic. Like John Hinckley trying to impress an underaged Jodie Foster crazy. Thanks for trying to portray criticism as mental illness, I am sure that will warm the hearts of the people you are shielding.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:33 |
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Grognan posted:Thanks for trying to portray criticism as mental illness, I am sure that will warm the hearts of the people you are shielding. I was talking about the way you post you sociopathic person. The thing that you could not prove but retreated to "oh well they're just mad I'm participating" Grognan you are psychotically bent on your justifications of your beliefs. I like that you posted about how this is trying to attack mental illness instead of trying to get you to help yourself.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:38 |
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What are you even trying to say grognan? Could you please take the time to articulate your thoughts in a coherent manner? Please don't elaborate "clam tickle thing"id rather be in the dark on that one.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:41 |
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MariusLecter posted:What are you even trying to say grognan? Could you please take the time to articulate your thoughts in a coherent manner? We could also ignore the rear end in a top hat propagating lovely conspiracy theories about other posters and actively ignoring multiple links proving what was being discussed is true in favor of talking about, oh, I dunno, feminism?
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:43 |
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Maybe also try leaving out the unnecessary accusations of mental illness when someone responds to you? Might make it easier to actually see your point. Ya know, get the chaff out of the way.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 09:43 |
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Grognan posted:LOL reading those articles, this is not a thing that happens in first world countries and you are still psychotically doing your clam tickle thing. First off, episiotomiesshould be really rare because they can prolong healing, increase rate of infection and aren't really all that beneficial. But they are still being done. Second, plenty of episiotomies are done without the woman's consent simply because it's easier. Third, there are multiple types of data aside from objective data.
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Grognan posted:LOL reading those articles, this is not a thing that happens in first world countries and you are still psychotically doing your clam tickle thing. Well you clearly didn't read the studies. But here, I've used my massive man-brain and employed "The Google" for your benefit: http://www.whattoexpect.com/forums/september-2015-babies/topic/husband-stitch-12.html http://www.mothering.com/forum/213-birth-beyond/264611-can-someone-explain-what-happy-husband-stitch.html http://www.compleatmother.com/arch_blessings.htm All of these contain posts from actual women who had this done to them. Most if not all presumably from the US, which despite recent events technically still qualifies as a first world nation. Now please stop posting in this thread.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 13:38 |
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blackguy32 posted:First off, episiotomiesshould be really rare because they can prolong healing, increase rate of infection and aren't really all that beneficial. But they are still being done. Just to add to this as well... You'll have to take my word for it on this one because I'm having difficulty finding the study but women who were allowed to push for at least three hours over two cut the need for being cut something to the tune of 90%. Allowing women to take their time, use warm compresses and natural pushing techniques can help them potentially avoid being cut without actual need. I really think the whole nature of L&D being extremely rushed in some respects is one of the reasons midwifery and the use of doulas has skyrocketed in interest again. There's a lot of encouragement for women to labour in different ways, and approach the birthing process in a more holistic way. Women want to feel like human beings during their pregnancy and delivery, not a slab of meat strapped to a bed and then cut open because it's quicker without exploring other options. I'd also throw the use of epidurals in there too because there's a lot of anecdotal evidence (wow, that's a thing, can you believe it?!) that women who have not wanted epidurals for whatever reason were pressured into them by hospital staff. These are both from a pretty quick perusal of searching on unnecessary episiotomies and c-sections http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/721538_1 http://m.acog.org/Resources-And-Pub...sMobileSet=true quote:A large population-based study from Canada found that the risk of severe maternal morbidities––defined as hemorrhage that requires hysterectomy or transfusion, uterine rupture, anesthetic complications, shock, cardiac arrest, acute renal failure, assisted ventilation, venous thromboembolism, major infection, or in-hospital wound disruption or hematoma––was increased threefold for cesarean delivery as compared with vaginal delivery (2.7% versus 0.9%, respectively) (7). There also are concerns regarding the long-term risks associated with cesarean delivery, particularly those associated with subsequent pregnancies. The incidence of placental abnormalities, such as placenta previa, in future pregnancies increases with each subsequent cesarean delivery, from 1% with one prior cesarean delivery to almost 3% with three or more prior cesarean deliveries.
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Yikes. And of course Japan is just the worst again.
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