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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Bust Rodd posted:

3) I heard of this Dwarven lich who used some goblin booster rockets to launch his 'lac into low orbit. Dude is like 6,000 years old now, I've met eleven mage knights who keep mistaking him for an elder god because know one can figure out how to fuckin' end the dude, his phylactery is flying through the material plane at speeds a friggin' air elemental couldn't touch.

This is a great idea, but for the love of Vecna make sure it stays in orbit, you don't want to face the True Death out of nowhere when your 'lac burns up on reentry.

Hobelhouse posted:

Hey everybody, Evil Wizarding student here. I decided to go with necromancy after all! But now I'm coming into a fork in the road. My advisor is pushing me to specialize in ghosts, says it's an up and coming field. "Transparent Glowing Green is the new Black" were his exact words. I'd always seen myself going more for the skeleton/zombie route but I hear there's some guys doing rad poo poo with ghosts out in Necronomicon Valley. I saw an article that HexTech has been putting poltergeists to good work in raising dark towers for their new 666G network. I've always been inspired by their motto ("Be Evil") and it looks like ghostbinding has come a long way in just the last 5 years. If anything ghosts are lower upkeep than skeletons and they're smarter than zombies, and as a free bonus you get all the ectoplasm you could ever need so... I guess I'm asking if anyone's had a bad experience with ghosts? Any reason I shouldn't go for it?

Keep The Laws, and you should be fine. It's a growth industry! :iia:

ChaseSP posted:

But what do you do with the soul eating demon you're stuck with? Look it's better to prevent issues from happening in the first place.

This guy gets it. Keep The Laws.

WrenP-Complete posted:

I tell all the birds they are beautiful, not just ravens. I am a shameful evil wizard.

Healthy self esteem is essential in a bird minion, it promotes healthy preening with trophies from intruders.

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Johnny Aztec posted:

What ...what if you took Conjuration as your barred school?

Enchantment.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Screaming Idiot posted:

One of my guys said that he talked to himself a lot and spent a lot of time jumping over stones to build speed, but he was clearly drunk.

I've heard of this kind of thing before. You may be dealing with a Crow Revenant with possible Creeping Enthrallment. You know, one of those crow spirit things powered by true love or whatever. It's always a good idea to kill household heads first, and not make them watch what you do (skeletonizing and adding to the workforce is a popular choice) to the domestic partners and/or kids, just in case. For the love of Vecna, don't taunt them. Crow Revenants are almost impossible to get rid of once they get their "vengeance" dander up.

The problem is, orcs are super prone to enthrallment (I mean, they have to to, to be a cheap and easy to control workforce) and it's possible that you're dealing with some kind infestation. Crow Revenant infestations are like bedbugs except you don't want them where you live, it makes managing your living workforce a pain in the rear end.

The only real way to be sure you've gotten rid of the whole thing is to completely vacate your territory, which is obviously not on the table for most evil wizards starting out. If you've got a vacation or other secondary hold or keep somewhere, obviously, you can chill there for a few hundo till the infestation burns itself out and the Crow Revenant thinks it's beat you and releases it's host into the afterlife. You may as well write off the souls of that guy and his family, you're never gonna be rid of the Crow Revenant if you use them to power anything.

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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I was talking with my buddy Tingle the other day, and he says that his magic words are never stolen as long as he only lets mute elves in on the secret. Hope that helps!

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Automatic Slim posted:

Spell components like precious stones get part of their potency by the misery inflicted on those who've dug them out. The tears and pain of forced child labor adds an extra enticement to the summoning and binding of ruinous powers from beyond. Besides, what's the point of being an evil wizard if you pay fair market value of the labor.

That's not, strictly speaking, true.

It is a happy coincidence, though. :)

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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naem posted:

Next time just put a really big obvious trap door to your skeleton pit right on the middle of the floor and start "monologuing."

I don't know what it is but they just can't help listen to your "evil plan." Make sure you ham it up and get some cackles in there- he'll stop right on top of the fake rug and give you a NAY EVIL DOER THY SHANT PROSPER THIS DAY, FOR 'TIS JUSTICE WHENCE MUST PREVAIL BY MY STRONG ARMS AND SWARTHY- THWAP! (that's a sound effect) AAAAARRRRGH tumble skeletons got 'em

No. Don't do this. Forums poster naem is obviously a paladin or cleric.

Never monologue. Just kill them. Show, don't tell.

Automatic Slim posted:

Don't showboat. Don't grandstand. Don't monologue. The "righteous" hang their hat on some kind of moral argument or big speech justification to BBEGs. Cold, impersonal evil really unnerves crusaders. If you want a flashy end, go Ozymandias, achieve your goal, and tell them their too late when they storm the castle.

Don't get cute. Stay professional. Save that ridiculous laugh after you've reanimated the your enemies soulless corpses.

This guy gets it.

Hihohe posted:

Look if monologuing is wrong I dont want to be right.

A sense of flair and presentation is what seperates us wizards from some assholes who throw fireballs like cigarettes butts. If your gonna get into evil magicry, you gotta have passion. When you obtain that immortality, you gotta keep having fun or living forever is gonna stop losing its allure.

Look, you can just be an evil bard if you want to showboat. There's no shame in it.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:

Anyone else command an army of tiny faefolk? All ya gotta do is feed them pizza. Click here for more wizard tricks they don't want you to know.

There's gonna be a Price. The Fae have their own set of hosed up Laws. I'm not saying to Keep their Laws, but I'm saying that you may have a hosed up situation on your hands.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Hihohe posted:

Leave it to a bunch of goons to make evil wizardry boring. Might as well put on a bunch of suits and join the republican party.
Hmm... ah yes, the Keepers Of The Laws... Lite Version.

Scary! posted:

Uhhh guys I just summoned a pack of wolves to form a death metal band. I kicked them out of the band after one of them poo poo in my boots of healing and how they're scratching at my door and laughing at my wizard hat wh n I walk out in public

brutal

soy posted:

REPUBLICAN WIZARD CHECKING IN

IN VAS MANI

IN VAS DES POR NATCHOS

(Favoring the multiplayer Ultima over the single player versions until they imploded was a stroke of evil genius, EA are masters of their craft!)

Anyway I was in my wizard cups yesterday, what do you all like to imbibe or consume relax or take a break from grinding everything beneath your heels?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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sweet geek swag posted:

Honestly I prefer ghouls to skeletons, but skeletons are just so easy to get. And lol if you don't use Improved Animate Dead to keep them Animated permanently. They are not even slightly smart, but if you need something that requires massive amounts of manual labor they are great. And once you have actual minions and acolytes you can send them to supervise. Standard skeletons do suck in fights, any idiot with a mace or club can smash them, so it is best to use them as supplemental fighters or in vast numbers. Ultimately no single minion type is sufficient for today's up and coming dark wizard on the go. I use a mix of ghouls, skeletons, mid tier demons and devil's, as well as my cultists, my undead Blackguard, my Eldritch Abomination and my fallen Archangel.

It's best to use more than one color, just so you don't get color hosed. Free tip!

Hobelhouse posted:

Oh man, it's simple, I picked some of this up when I was taking Eldritch Reckoning 101, you can put it in an Excel sheet even. Just take the 6th day of the 6th month of the nearest 6th Infernal year. Then, apply Zagnor's Profane Sequence based on the current earthly year. Separate out the new derived month, day, and year again and put them into the Formula of the Bloody-handed Betrayer. Then, take the unnatural logarithm of the solutions and you have the current Infernal Date.

Of course, things get a little more complicated when you have a leap year - then you need to start using the Exponents of Excruciation. And devils take you if it's the INFERNAL Leap Year - there's no helping it, you have to delve deep into some Forbidden Calculus to get it right then. Be careful and don't take shortcuts - my classmate tried rounding up before taking the Integral of the Black Toad, he got some real nasty burns when his calculator caught fire.

A little training pays off big!

Peanut Butler posted:

I wear like twelve magic rings because idgaf about wizard law rings for everything

My dude. Wear all the rings you want, amassing Great Power is totally Within The Laws. It sounds like you may be dealing with repressed Paladin Logic, there's a couple ways to get over it. I know some good succubii if you can't handle it on your own.

Rakosi posted:

Someone put zombie porn on my crystal ball and some builders adding an extension onto my evil tower saw it and told the cops. How screwed am i?

A minor fae glamour will usually work the first couple of times this happens, but you're gonna have to kill all these dudes for sure.

Then make your own, "fresh," porn.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Goa Tse-tung posted:

What do you guys think of witches? I'm kinda torn, I once fell in love (like real, true love!) with this super hot witch, because she made me some of her broth everyday. We had wild witch sex, all the time, I think. I kinda hurts trying to remember, but it also feels good?

Then my Imp familiar found me and poisened her in her sleep, that was sad. I don't think I could love another witch after that. :(

Why didn't you bring her back? Surely you know how to defeat the shackles of this mortal coil?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Pffft, reanimating and enthralling an ex is no biggie. Plus, you get to end things on your terms if you change your mind.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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VendaGoat posted:

There is a huge difference between being a total sociopath and being an evil wizard bent on dominating a (insert region here) because of past wrongs.

Some villains are made. Some villains just are.

Actually, there's a lot of overlap.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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VendaGoat posted:

To the uninitiated, yes.

Everything is a lie. All things are permitted.

As long as you Keep The Laws, obviously.

VendaGoat posted:

Just polymorph someone into your dream and then dominate them.

This isn't celestial abjuration. Sheesh.

Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.

Peanut Butler posted:

yea mine dude I doth wear twelve rings for I have e'en now in my clutches ten of the crystals of knull, two more of which stand betwixt mine minions and mine nemesis
after I have enslaved his people using a machine made from his mother's bones and get the crystals I shall

havent thought of that actually idk what do other evil wizards do when thine nemesis is struck fell and the crystals lie within thine grasp? are cruises still fun? talkies?

There will always be other nemesises. Nemesii? You'll find something else to do. You could join a fandom, for instance.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Speleothing posted:

What's the best way to get skeletons to look good in a suit? I've been trying to make my lair a little classier, and have been hoping to get some nice uniforms for all the minions. They just look so baggy and cheap even on a high quality skeleton.

Spandex.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Eela6 posted:

Hi fellow wizards. Just checking in. I've taken the hat and cloak off the peg and I'm back into full-time wizardry after two decades of consulting and applied bardic research. That's right - I'm bringing back musical evil.

I've got a small lair going on. Besides the flesh-tearing, maddening rhythm beating from what was once a human heart, it's a pretty traditional set-up. An orc and skeleton joint, you know.

I'm set up down by a haunted marsh I bought for a song (literally!)

My problem is birds. Something about my evil music just keeps attracting birds. I'm not talking crows and ravens, I'm talking cute little songbirds with red wingtips, bright green hummingbirds, the whole princess-in-a-tower shtick. They're chattering around, lighting on my shoulder, singing along. I can toss a half dozen fireballs and scare them away for an hour or two, but they keep coming back, and they seem practically immune to magic. I boiled a hundred of them and stitched their flesh and bone into to a golem, and it fell apart within a half hour. The next day there were more cute birds than ever.

I'm a sixty-nine year-old warlock with my soul hidden in a box made from a dragon's ribcage, not a buxom maiden waiting to be rescued. I don't know what to do! I consulted for years and I've never seen anything like this. Please help!

You want to encourage them to do disgusting things, like, I don't know, peck at stuff? Eat stuff. Be scary. Bird stuff. Use your imagination. Get some creepy-rear end bird flocks going.

Or, you know, give in to that maiden.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Well, unless you have enough to share.

(Keep The Laws)

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Hobelhouse posted:

Buddy of mine used to run the local chapter of the Cult of Ba'al and he got maaaaad brainwashed cultist pussy. Ba'al is kind of a party animal though, IDK about some random entropy god. You'll all probably wind up looking like diseased skeletons and corpulent germbags in no time and that is NOT a good look for getting down with (one of my exs was Nurgle- curious, don't ask)

Which Ba'al are you talking about? Zebub? Horchata? Frank? Ba'al is a title.

Ba'al Zebub is "Lord of the Flies" and took ownership of the name after some crazy Yam (the Storm God) cultists started carrying him around in a box and promoting their worldwide cultural hegemony (that thing with Mithras really made the whole thing snowball in a delightfully hilarious direction) which included calling Him a giant piece of poo poo. His portfolio is actually farming, fertility and the soft rains, though He has started to dabble in excrement, pestilence, and golden showers as sort of a disruptive marketing thing.

Ba'al Frank, though. Ba'al Frank... is a real party dude.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Tiny Deer posted:

The path to good is a slippery slope, you have to stay alert. Never play with nature magic, it's almost as bad as the loving gibbon talking about 'evil barding'. Song is inherently harmonic, dum-dums, harmony = GOOD. You're just asking for some beautiful and innocent maiden to ensnare your heart with her pure voice if you gently caress with it.

FALSE. It is a well-known fact that devils are the best musicians and the font of harmonic power from which bards and other musicians draw.

Especially metal. :rock:

nomadologique posted:

please don't enslave dracoliches, seriously folks, these are conscious creatures. i used to work for one, very nice fellow, discounted me a significant portion of my soul at the end of my term of employment.

You know, becoming an immortal dragon lich is kind of my endgame, that's why I've turned the sun red and the land to ash with my defiling magics in my quest for unlife singularity.

All within The Laws, obviously. Everything has a price.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Goa Tse-tung posted:

yo did you do that thing where you create an Obsidian Desert? that sounds rad as gently caress

Yes, and a Sea of Ash, too! All the hosed up poo poo of the ocean but with the blind aeons of eternity and stone!

Defiling magic is totes hella rad.

Screaming Idiot posted:

If I wanted to obey laws I'd become some paladin's bootlick. I became an evil wizard so I could surpass mortality, shatter the bonds of the physical world, and SHOW THAT loving ASSWIPE TODD THAT I AM NOT A BITCH

gently caress YOU TODD

HOW DO YOU LIKE BEING MY UNDYING poo poo-SLAVE? gently caress YOU POLISH MY CHAMBER-POT WITH THE DESSICATED REMNANTS OF YOUR OWN SCALP

THAT IS WHAT YOU GET FOR PICKING ON ME IN SCHOOL TODD

AND NO I DON'T CARE IF IT HAPPENED ALMOST TWENTY YEARS AGO REVENGE IS BEST SERVED COLD AND ALSO A IN CHAMBER POT FILLED WITH LIQUID FECES

You know, being mad about The Laws existing is exactly like being one of those human teenagers loudly, vaguely mad about someone called "SkyDaddy" and their opinions on his followers...

Except The Laws are real and worth throwing a hissy fit over.

Also, good luck with Todd! I'm sure he deserves it.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Usually all that is left of my enemies is ashes and their eternal sorrow, I kind of wish I had some maidens with lucious, swinging bones around to give me head.

The heads of my enemies, that is. I don't have a wiener on the traditional sense anymore, I don't think, the process of becoming an immortal dracolich-king is kind of weird.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
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Space Taxi posted:

The neighbour's kid keeps hanging around my tower wanting to be my apprentice. I wouldn't mind an apprentice really but this kid is dumb as poo poo. I don't even know if he's worth dismembering for spare parts for my flesh golem.

I think I'll just harvest his soul and use it as a porch light.

Give him a test. One you don't expect him to survive. Just keep making tests you don't expect him to survive and he'll serve his purpose, you might even get an actual apprentice out of it.

Just make sure he doesn't resent you, learn how to kill you, or have an opportunity to do so.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Screaming Idiot posted:

So I've decided to branch out into mad science as well as evil wizarding, and the results have been fantastic! I just finished my giant cybernetic battle-golem made from enchanted titanium plates with demon-infused motivators units fueled by a custom-designed necrotomic power plant. It's armed with hellfire missiles -- literal hellfire, mind you, the cool neon green stuff -- and baleflame plasma cannon using the souls of war orphans as ammunition.

Pics or it didn't happen.

aegof posted:

Mixing science and magic can be extremely effective. Magic gets jealous, is the thing. It won't let you be a master of magic and science, and will start to passive-aggressively make higher level spells harder and harder to pull off. This usually doesn't matter; the flexibility of technology typically makes up the difference, and it's as easy as temporarily forgetting how electricity works to get back on magic's good side. But absolutely do not allow a rival wizard or scientist to catch you in an anti-magic or -technology field. Any magi-tech stuff you've brought into the field will at best be nonfunctional and you may not have the power to take your rival on anymore.

Also, watch for heroic hackers, engineers, and other kinds of modern nerd. If your technology has any kind of structural or security weakness, these kids will find it, and it will ruin your plans at the worst possible moment. Use proper passwords, protect mechanical joints, etc.

Finally, look into cyber-liching. Did you know that 15% of modern memes are phylacteries?

I'm gonna have to look into all of this, although I'm not sure I left enough people alive on my last push towards immortal dragon emperor for them to invent the Internet on my plane.

I could "let" them discover it, I suppose.

Power_of_the_glory posted:

Anyone else ever feel that they are an evil witch trapped in the body of an evil wizard?

There are spells for that.

You can resort to fleshcrafting if the body-acceptance mindshaping absolutely will not take hold, but it's a last resort.

Power_of_the_glory posted:

I have tried that, but everytime I try to fornicate with a devil to form the pact to officially become an evil witch, I am rejected. Devils are surprisingly transphobic.

Anyone else impressed how well David Bowie is maintaing his body after becoming lich? Dead for a year and still not a single bone showing.

Devils, being masters of Lawful Evil, know the Truth, as they must manipulate it to their monkey paw purposes. They can smell your blood, which has a Y chromosome.

You either need to broker a new deal that suits your purposes (you will need a good Devil lawyer on your side,) get a better fleshcrafting spell or a Belt of Gender Swapping, or mind control a Devil before you attempt this. A combination of all three has the best chance of success.

And yes, Bowie was a master.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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naem posted:

IS, Bowie IS a master

Oops, my bad. You are correct of course.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
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Eela6 posted:

Devils aren't just capital-E Evil, they're jerks, through and through. They have a commitment to petty evil that's admirable in its own way.

I'll rip out an orphan's heart to power my dread magics in an instant. A devil will do it because they can.

P.S: If anyone wants a pit full of dead noblewomen let me know. I think there's fourteen of them so far. So many drat princesses. They're nearly as thick as these loving birds.

You may be (you totally are, I'm being polite and understated here) confusing demons and devils there. A devil usually waits for and acts upon the conditions in a legally binding contract, a demon does whatever you leave an opening for.

This is D&D 101, guys.

Arkanomen posted:

Yup, that's a pretty common problem. When working on the material plane you have to understand balance and how going full public super evil for too long causes the pendulum to swing back. Heroic bands suddenly appear using powers way outside mortal means, dependable servants suddenly lose their minds and become useless and the walls of power and fear you've spent ages building start to give way to hope and goodness.


Think back to how things were when you got your start and you'll see how it's an opposites thing. This is where a lot of first timers plateau and eventually give up. You're stuck in a material narrative and you have to break it like you broke the neck of your first love. Make it hard, brutal and unexpected.

The classic move is to build a massive fortress, fill it with horrors and demons and all those little side projects you left to fester. Make it grand with spikes and moaning spirits, really ham it up, pull out all the stops. In the final chamber leave a senile old man you turned into a lich. Make it look like he has been the one running the show and just lost his mind over the years. You then gently caress off to another plane and watch the heroes just loving faceplant. Sure you'll lose what you built but gently caress it. You're an evil wizard, mortal concerns are beneath you, but if you're really attached just wait a century for things to turn around and then just reappear and start the whole thing over again. It's kinda fun but it gets old after the 600th time.

Keep The Laws, and you won't have to vaycay on another plane so often.

The senile old man lich is a nice touch.

Power_of_the_glory posted:

Honestly, in this situation it is best to let them think they have won and that you have been vanquished for all time. Disappear for a few decades and let the now saved kingdom enter a new golden age. Return and before the heroes realize you have begun to regain your power, murder them in front of their children. Let the children escape because their is no way they can ever be a threat to you.

Oh, oh buddy, no. You gotta murder them kiddies too, only the ones who get away have no combat or magical skills to speak of and are therefore safe.

Skypie posted:

I think if you've identified that The Balance is swinging away from you, you're not in a bad spot. It's a good tip off not to burn your powerful resources first. It can be difficult and time-consuming to force it back your way so you may be better served by playing the cosmic narrative to what I call the "mid season finale."

It's kind of a crossroads in The Balance where the heroes must make a major sacrifice. Usually it's that one of the grizzled, experienced adventurers dies or a love interest is killed. Supposed to be a low point for the heroes before they regroup and triumph.

Being that it is a crossroad moment, though, it's an excellent tool opportunity to seize the initiative. Make some bargains outside the material plane or engineer some kind of covenant with the Unseelie (those dark fae LOVE this kind of stuff and aren't strictly beholden to balance - letter of The Law stuff, not so much the spirit) then execute your non-material deals during this and you can wipe out the heroes.

Worry about The Balance once you've gotten a hang of The Laws. The Balance requires a good Laws foundation to be exploitable in your favor.

Skypie posted:

Well I mean this is why it's important to follow The Laws. You might be doing some nasty evil, but the gods can't directly intervene if you're not objectively crossing lines.

Goes back to the letter is the Law stuff.

:) You get it.

Mad Hamish posted:

Dude, how have you not realized that you're stuck in a narrative? Did you have an inspector come by to check for excessive deposits of narrativium before you built your mountaintop doom fortress? Like poo poo man, what did you expect? I'll bet at this point the narrative is so strong that when the villagers in the valley below look up to the spiked turrets of your lair in superstitious terror, lightning flashes and thunder rolls, regardless of how nice the weather is.

You've got to get out of there before that narrative kills you. Don't you know how dangerous narrativium is? It's like the first thing they teach you in Evil Wizard School.

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Eela6 posted:

:rolleyes:

Sure, buddy.

Hey, I don't Make The Laws, I just Keep Them. Do what thou wilt and all, man. Just don't come crying to us when a demon is using your spleen for a prophylactic.

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Power_of_the_glory posted:

You guys really need to stop hating on us part fish people. My grandfather was a deep one and I am proud of my heritage. Being able to live underwater has helped me evade most curious adventure seekers. Most heroes don't want to deal with the oceans what so ever. The few that do are usually too stupid to realize that wearing full plate armor while on deck of their ship is suicide. I have dragged many would be heroes to their doom with just a few simple summoned tentacles. Nothing is more satisfying that watching a Paladin try to remove their armor while they are drowning (most don't even put any points into swimming anyway). I probably have more wealth and souls than all of you and I have never had to make a deal with any abyssal beings or become a lich (because I am already immortal due to my eldritch heritage).

It really sounds like you're fishinglooking for something to be offended about, man. Nobody here except that one guy cares if you're a Deep One or that you have Deep One friends.

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My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Let's be totally honest for a second here. No wizard ever really sees themselves as evil, per se. It's just shortsighted idiots who resent our bootstrapping and want the fruits of our magical labors re-distributed to peasants from the Black Forest who didn't earn them.

Evil, for lack of a better world, is good.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Well, yes, it is.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

Gridlocked posted:

I keep trying to make golems but necromaners keep stealing my raw materials to raise them as zombies. Can someone please give me some advice? TIA.

Your problem here is that you are starting with flesh golems, blood golems, bone golems, etc. Those come later in the build order, you need a couple straw golems at least to keep rival graverobbers away from your flesh farms until they are up and running.

All they have to do is scare them away, although if they do kill the necromancer's minions that's more flesh, bones, etc for your pile.

I mean, Animate Scarecrow is a simple spell, and necromancer minions are a cowardly and superstitious lot...

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:

Conversely, you could put a Delayed Corpse Explosion spell on those suckers and wait 'till you hear the screams.

A necromancer can always gain more minions, fool!

It's like you don't know anything about startup culture.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Skypie posted:

Any necromancer worth his salt won't be anywhere near freshly raised minions anyway. They'll put new corpses in the fields where nothing gets hurt if they lapse into madness or explode or spontaneously decompose into pools of acid.

It's just smart business - corpses are weird and volatile sometimes. Gotta make sure you have prime ingredients before you start stitching together your golems or abominations.

No, not freshly raised minions, I mean the teenage posers who wear clothes from Hot Topic and think that necromancy is cool.

Necromancy is not "cool," necromancy is a tool like any other tool. Just like ninja.

The thing is, you can get stupid kids to easily interfere with most kinds of dark wizards who are just starting to get settled in to a new territory before the arcane machines and defenses are set.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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It's usually that a kid grows up thinking ninja or necromancers are the coolest thing ever and they focus on becoming one above all other skills. Trust me, I've seen it a million times over my aeons of transformation into an immortal dragon-king-god.

Sure, ninja are sweet and they basically flip out ALL THE TIME and play electric guitars with their boners, and necromancy is a powerful school of magic, but you need a backup plan for your day job until you get your big break.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Okay, and this is important, you have to learn to invest wisely in local businesses. Not only do they provide a good front for all your... research... but they let you get your insidious grasp around just about everything.

This is more of a Lawful Evil thing, you can kill and molest them all later on once you're established, but honestly there will be no delicious fear to harvest if you've wiped everyone out.

Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, and make sound financial decisions.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Automatic Slim posted:

Because of last night's Game of Thrones, everyone is going to want a Dracolich.



Yeah, didn't spoiler.



Evil.

Nice!

I mean, it's not evil because the pursuit of knowledge is never evil and the limited studies done (due to everyone being such coddled babies about it) have shown that "spoilers" don't actually decrease enjoyment of consumed, there's a actually a greater stigma attached to "spoilers" than, say, Satanism. Satanists actually are pretty ethical people and Keep The Laws better than most if not all other groups, as a whole.

key party favors posted:

extremely busy with the eclipse. where were you guys? I basically had to solo this. wtf class of the third liminal skull? where were you guys?

Look, I've seen Raiders of the Lost Ark and I don't need that kind of poo poo in my unlike. I just don't.

Barudak posted:

So they tell me, me!, that it doesnt loving matter if I got contracts with all this poo poo written out between me and joe shitfarmer or that I heal him fully and erase his memories of it afterwards, collecting his tears in vials is considered non-lawful and like, gently caress man, if its not lawful whyve I got so much signed paperwork and records coming out my rear end like Im trying to transmute air to wood?

That's just, like, one guy. Even if you take all his tears, it's not gonna be enough, not for the good poo poo. What you need to do is get multiple streams of reagents.

One way to do so is to create a shell corporation (Like you don't know how to do this, we're all "evil" here, bro) that harvests the tears for you and absolves you of all responsibility should paladins or other do-"good"-ers start asking questions. For all my tear needs I generally rely on cursed eyewash stations with fluids which have conveniently have "just passed their expiration dates" and that the managers at whatever company I'm supplying conveniently "forgot" to order more while they were in their office making sure people didn't work more than 36 hours a week.

You could also try onion farms, restaurant kitchens where the cuisine is onion-heavy or even try to get in touch with Dave Mustaine, he's got some great tears in a vial. He just cries directly in there whenever he thinks about James and Lars. Be creative! Whatever you choose to do, It just has to be simple, easily repeatable, and you gotta be able to use minions to automate the process.

Which brings me to:

Bacontotem posted:

Ya'll have been quite lately. Did I miss out on another dimension shift again?

My plan 'tis... fairly close to completion. I have Kept The Laws. I have amassed unassailable defenses, yea, that e'en the denizens of the Celestial Planes doth tremble at the thought of challenging my dread resplendence.

I'm going to Alter a Law.

Why would I do such a thing, I, who doth goad and prod and cajole others to Keep The Laws? In sooth, I have no love for these dread Laws, yea, e'en as I Keep them. For they are... they are... just the worst. Seriously guys. I hate The Laws. I cannot undo them as they are part of the fabric of Reality the Creator wove as he shat Reality into hellish Existence. With his many butts, obviously.

I'm not going to go into specifics here because any paladin or adventurer with :10bux: can post here and read my plans, and I didn't get to be a lich by letting other people in on my plans, but suffice it to say, I have finally ground out enough reagents to substantially change one (1) of the Laws.

Which Law? I cannot decide at the moment. However... I would be open to suggestions. And bribes. Bribes are important.

Fellow "Evil" Wizards, tell me which Law you would have me change to a mockery of it's former self, and how much you're gonna pay for finally, finally, making The Laws... just.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Toilet Shoes posted:

Legalize Hemp

The Laws of Man do not concern me, and I'm pretty sure cannabis is going to be legal everywhere soon anyway. This seems like a waste, plus, what's in it for me? Verily, I can toke up most unrighteously whenever the spirit doth grab me.


Goa Tse-tung posted:

I know it's more like a guidline and not a LAW, but you do something with Never Deal With A Dragon? I've got sooooo many ideas, cmon make them, like, not gently caress us over so much, or less vengefull, can you do that?

That's more of a Rule Of Thumb, which, whilebgenerally should be Followed, may be safely ignored, mostly.

Hmm. The Law of Supply and Demand or the Law of Equivalency. I will take some time to decide and also allow for some of you yahoos to read the Book wherein the Laws are Kept so that you may reacquaint yourselves with them so that you may know what you want me to Alter first.

Also to let you guys get some more bribes together. I realize this is short notice to spring something like this upon you.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Body swapping is probably the best in this situation, 'it's true. Like Skypie said, make sure to keep a low profile for a while, so no one casts Detect Evil on you.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:

Sorry for the previous post. My familiar was trying to send a message for help with his beak. The demon tricked me and I am now in the jar. He took the soul that was in here and took human form, then left. I have conjured an unseen servant, which I was able to have pull out a battery from my Amazon Fire remote, wrap that in some foil, and use as a phone stylus to write this post. I am about 8 inches tall right now and I am not really sure how airtight this jar is. It seems ok. But I really need to open this thing now. I foolishly had my familiar drop it from height but it didn't break and I think I broke a leg. And to rub salt in the wound, there's a lot of salt in here from my earlier attempt to bind the demon.

Teleportation is in my barred school. I can summon my own food in here but I'm not carrying any of my books with my most useful spells. They're voice warded in my study but my voice is high pitched and isn't activating the unlock. I've got some of my lighter spellbooks with lower level spells but these have had little effect on the bottle. The fumes from this acid arrow aren't great and I'm woozy. Hard to concentrate and cast spells.

I've hosed up. I'm going to have to magic the poo poo out of this.

I assume you've tried Bigby's Opening Hand? I mean, it's pretty basic stuff, but...

Have Blue posted:

im wondering is any demonomancers cant help me out w/ a quick q:

the nine hells linked to my astral plane were recently restructured into a 7 circle system and im having a devil of a time(heh) redoing all my infernal pacts. Do I really have to redo everything or can I just amend my previous agreements?

It's their responsibility to keep any outstanding commitments regardless of restructuring. As long as these pacts are with devils, not demons.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Demonic contracts are forever, broseph.

No statute of limitations once a deal is struck.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Oh, they're getting with the times, I see. Most of my contracts are grandfathered in.

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
The problem wth Fae bargains is you're only likely to get something resembling a fair deal from the Seelie Court, and even then, they're gonna gently caress with you more than normal for being "evil."

The Faewild is a great place to hide a phylactery if you can secure a hiding place, though, let me tell you.

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