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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Elviscat posted:

They stole our goddamn beards from us.

They did it in the most insulting way possible too, they didn't make a new regulation, they claimed that SUBPAC "recently became aware" "some submarines allowed sailors to violate regulations with regards to facial hair".

Motherfucker, you're a submarine officer, was your head jammed up your rear end for your entire career obstructing your vision? Just acknowledge that it was a tradition loved by the submarines force that is no longer tenable because you can't get a seal in an EAB.

Doesn't matter now I guess, I can grow all the beard I want.

wait, they took away underway beards?

was it someone butthurt about them removing smoking?

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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
Hot drat I should have said I was a follower of Norse Paganism instead of NORELPREF

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Elviscat posted:

Supposedly because some sailors couldn't fight the BHR fire because they had no shave chits.



thats bs. oba & eab has zero problems with some hair. if you had like a 3 or 4 inch long beard maybe it might have a problem

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Boris Galerkin posted:

Hope you all don’t mind me posting about The Last Ship again because I get curious about the accuracies/inaccuracies sometimes.

So in the last episode I watched the ship was hunting-evading an enemy nuclear sub, an Astute class one. I’m not sure how I feel about a single ship hunting a nuclear submarine buuuut in the episode they showed that they had a guy who’s entire job was to wear a headset to listen to the beeps and boops from the sonar and answer questions to the captain based on those sounds alone. The TV shows him closing his eyes to focus and he never looks at the screen when he tells the captain the enemy is 40 mi away or that they are at 34 degrees or whatever.

Surely the show showing sonar as this super duper low tech is just a made for tv thing? Y’all have computers that listen to the boops and can identify poo poo faster and more accurate than a person? Right?

Side note the show likes to keep showing off the same stock footage of a SM-3 launching. I’ll never get tired of seeing this because my very first job was working on the thrusters for that missile’s kill vehicle, which sounds a lot cooler than it was.

:lol:


If active sonar is going on you will know the exact bearing it is along with the SPL (sound pressure level) but not an exact distance. There is a sensor that is dedicated to that, very similar to a RAWR on an aircraft (that tells you what radar is in the air and its direction).

To find out the exact range requires the ages old method of triangulation via bearing rates. I'm sure you can look up TMA formulas on the internet that explain it.

Sonar is also a team thing not 1 guy doing it all.

Also to know "what" something is requires knowledge. There is no computer that spits out "ITS A CLASS XXXXXX"


edit : but you're talking about the surface ship doing active. that will give a distance to the return which will be pretty accurate. it will not tell you anything else, just a distance to the return not what anything is and reading active sonar is a bit of a skill.

ded fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Dec 8, 2023

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
my nam was for fixing gear we had no documentation or proper access to, which kept us at sea and on our special mission thing. AFTAS was such a cobbled together pile of stuff.

i had to figure out a way to delete things in the /root directory on a sunspark unix system that we did not have the admin access to because the civilian rider was not with us. then the next week one of the cards in the system broke for processing the tb-29 information and thankfully we actually had a spare for it.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Boris Galerkin posted:

Thanks for the info on sonar and subs. I’ve just learned today that you can actually hear the pings when another ship has active sonar on even without headsets connected to the system… y’all hear that just while you’re walking around the ship?

I always assumed any scenes in movies that showed something like this was fake because I assumed that subs had some layer of sound dampening material, like idk even an air gap inside the hull?

sound travels much better in water than in the air. you can hear things from the other side of the ocean - like say from the US west coast to Japan with the right equipment & other factors. active sonar is called a fish fryer for a reason. it puts out a shitload of power into the water that is many times louder than any rock concert or jet engine.

edit : for example when that sub went down near south america weather sonar from hundreds of miles away picked up the noise


:argh: i havent heard that sound in 20 years and i do not miss it


ded fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Dec 9, 2023

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Qtotonibudinibudet posted:

lol what shenanigans managed that

truly i should have joined the navy. a neverending series of problems that caters to my expertise: finding scuffed solutions to even more scuffed computer problems

my solution was to overwrite things. i could change the permission to allow files to be written to, but not deleted. so i took a file that was 4k in size from outside of /root and overwrote it. i had to do this over and over. every time the system crashed it put a dump file in there that filled the hard drive (this is 1997 and they were mb in size not gb) and made the whole thing no longer work.

it took me about 2 days of screwing around to figure this out because i had zero experience with unix, but i had used a lot of dos 3.3-6.0 so cli was familiar

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
i did some painting. like the entire topside of the submarine. because i volunteered to run deck division because i hated my sonar lpo so much.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Elviscat posted:

There are some questions that just won't be confirmed/denied here.

Luv 2 paint the entire submarine when it's 42⁰ and raining, then have it all peel off like a giant scab the second the boat submerges.



this was in hawaii so instead we sweated our balls off the whole time.

and a massive patch right in front of the sail came off on the first dive. the weps just looked at me and said "dont worry about it that happens every time"

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Mr. Nice! posted:

I've witnessed a sailor get sea sickness while on a pakistani fishing dhow in the northwest indian ocean. Well, I witnessed in that I watched via camera and later infrared while on watch while the vbss team was over. He was very clear that the rocking was making him seasick and that he was going to poo poo himself. Unfortunately his only option was to use the head of the dhow, which is literally a hole in the brow. The infrared picked up the poo as it flew out of him.

the things some people do for scat porn

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
crab dad is the prime example of choose your rate choose your fate

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
an actual captains chair on a bridge?????

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

You guys can circlejerk and mock me all you want, but I’m going to be sincere. I will ask you to actually read what I’m saying and not put words in my mouth, and to treat the context of the ongoing genocide in Palestine and the wider conflict in the region with seriousness in this context.

I’ve met a Palestinian who was shot in the leg by an IDF sniper for trying to render aid, and watched another clearly marked medical worker with him get his head opened by a 7.62. I find it hard to even find dark humor in the situation in Gaza the and wider context in the region.

I never actually said I supported, nor think they’re “good,” or fully believe that their only motivation, and this isn’t an attempt to own you or argue. I do think the belief that the Houthis can be painted with a broad brush as simply just antisemitic American-hating terrorist pirates is incredibly racist, dehumanizing, and especially as Americans and specifically former or current members of the US military the fact that we just a couple years ago finished up a horrific genocidal campaign by our gulf state proxies armed to the teeth with the our latest export models of Arleigh Burke’s, Abrams, and F16s that lead to one of the greatest mass starvations in recent history.

Look I get that most of us are in different information bubbles but for gods sake just look up how many civilians our “allies” have killed in Yemen and now Palestine. Whatever thing you say about the Houthis, regardless of if there is truth to it or it’s just recycling warmed over 2002 era racism, they’re not the country standing between basically at this point the rest of the world and making sure Israel can depopulate Gaza and we are, and I don’t understand why this doesn’t also sicken the rest of you.

hey bud, we have an I/P trap thread.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4044116

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

Then maybe “Houthis/Arabs are racist savages who hate our freedom” posts should go in there as well. Or just not be posted.

well you seem to be going on about i/p stuff while trying to justify antiship missiles being fired at random ships. so whatever man. no not posting

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
my friend you seem to have very strong opinions about pirates somehow being actually legal and good. maybe you should try posting about it in cspam or dnd because this thread is actually about people who swore an oath that includes "fighting piracy" or randos who wander in as well so gently caress it keep on trucken

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

Well maybe we can tell Israel to stop exterminating Gaza and see if that works before starting a new war

I have strong opinions about racist troupes being used to justify an active genocide. Are you really just going to keep making up some hysterical story that I justified random acts of piracy? And gently caress off with this “I swore an oath” poo poo, I was in too and the reason I’m sickened was because I really believed in this poo poo and I’m watching us enable sheer pointless cruelty.

and shooting anti ship missiles and armed drones at unarmed shipping vessels is justified how exactly?

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

It's not but keep having fun with this "when did you stop beating your wife" poo poo.

Your turn, justify to me how it's moral for the US Navy to park a couple carrier groups in the region and tell everyone hands off, the IDF can have a little Enstazgruppen as a treat.

ok. now i get it. you found some bites so you have to keep it going. right on my man.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
today this is the forums turd thread. normally it farts along saying a turd is coming but right now the turd is in full effect

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Elviscat posted:

Y'all ever get woke up by the messenger, go eat, head on back to the engine room for watch, and one RO unit's overfilling the RFTs, the other's dumping brine in the bilge, the LOPs are geysering 2190 out of the water seal, one condenser has no vacuum, and ERUL doesn't know what he hosed up so he's cowering and crying in a corner, the EP is in some hosed up lineup with no procedure for recovery, the EWS and ERS are shooting the poo poo in maneuvering, who just have all the alarms cutout, and ERLL is literally just missing somehow?

Because that's how I feel getting off work and reading this thread.

Please translate appropriately for your rate.

i hate that i understood most of that

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
the best mahu on the island

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Crab Dad posted:

So when life gives you lemons…
I got the 1900 to 0700 shift.
However this means I get off work to go smash a bowling alley breakfast everyday then fall asleep with a big ol’ belly.

Also the PS1 I worked with last time was showing me his Joint achievement and apologized for not helping me write myself up for one so he’ll take care of me this time. Hooray shinies.

Also fml that would have counted towards my chief test no?

midwatch, in port, at a shore station?

you poor thing

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
the printer never sleeps my friend

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Quackles posted:

Wait, what did it turn out he had been doing?

being in debt that you cant pay off on time is a red flag for a clearance

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
no no no. the NAM is for when the yeomen file paperwork on time

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
when in doubt charlie out

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
they will try to give crab the chief initiation poo poo and he will blow them off

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Elviscat posted:

It was a Good Time watching CSC make his own, substantial, meal before going on watch, while we were rationing. Motherfucker would stand in front of us and tell us we were getting plenty of food and to stop whining about it.

E: he got made fun of so hard he started doing it before the prewatch brief, and scuttling down to Chief's quarters to eat, instead of sitting in crew's mess.

E2: same (loving fat, of course) CSC was big on portion sizing even when we were just loving around off the coast and could get food any time. We were restricted to half a waffle (he had the irons back in the galley instead of self-serve on a table like most boats) he, of course, would get a full waffle.

We were getting the poo poo kicked out of us at cribbage by the CO one day, and one of my buddies ratted the CSC out to the CO, who demanded to know if it was true, and then ordered CSC to serve a full waffle to all sailors at breakfast.

CSC smashed the loving waffle irons in the trash compactor rather than allow us full waffles.

The next CO made the CSC go through a full NR-style command-level critique for running out of butter on deployment (the "I can't believe there's no butter" critique) and it made the CSC cry actual adult man tears, lol.

why didnt the skipper mast him for smashing the waffle irons? that is some hosed up poo poo

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Crab Dad posted:

https://imgur.com/a/YRg1rJG

Without a doubt the best feeling thing I’ve done for another sailor.

you actually shipmated him


and not in a buddy fucker way

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
since you're a first class they prob expect you to hand walk that poo poo

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Crab Dad posted:

gently caress.

gently caress.

gently caress.

IT1,

Congratulations on your selection to Chief!


Cycle 114 Reserve SBE results…

Crabdad ITC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5qi3IooOVI

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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
jfc if you don't actually make selection the entire navy needs to be burned down

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