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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Snak posted:

I loved him in Forever Knight.

Great show.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Mu Zeta posted:

TV movies can be good. I like a bunch of the young Indiana Jones adventures that were edited together on the DVD release.

Been watching that lately myself. Sean Patrick Flanery isn't bad. I didn't even think the kid who played 10-year old Indy was terrible. It's a shame that the movies don't get the bookends with George Hall as nonagenarian Indy.

Generally speaking they're fine but I think a lot of the movie edits make it a bit slow. Sometimes they're very well done and it feels fairly natural (e.g. the one where he starts in Istanbul and meets Ataturk, then goes to Venice for his next assignment and moves on to Romania where he meets a Romanian separatist played by Bob motherfucking Peck who claims to be a reincarnated vampire) but then there's others where the episode split is sort of distracting.

Not hard to see why it didn't last, though, because they all look incredibly cinematic for early 1990s TV. There's a lot of 2017 shows that don't even look as good.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

feedmyleg posted:

Much like his next big TV project The Clone Wars, Lucas was paying out of pocket to make the show look as good as he could. Young Indy never really made money because it was just so drat expensive to make, which shows. I doubt The Clone Wars will be rivaled in TV animation for another 20 years either.

I remember how for a good few years after Revenge of the Sith came out there'd be regular updates on starwars.com (dutifully reported by Wookieepedia) about the Star Wars live-action TV series that was definitely going to happen; it was going to bridge the gap between the prequels and the originals, it was going to include young Boba Fett in its ensemble cast, it was going to be produced by Rick McCallum, it would have at least 100 episodes.

And it probably would have been the most expensive TV series ever made.

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I really, really wish that they'd been able to finish season 3 properly, or maybe even get a season 4, because they were planning on shifting the show a little more into where the movies were. You can see that in the last few episodes, specifically Treasure of the Peacock's Eye and Masks of Evil, which brought in treasure hunting and supernatural foes respectively. I would've killed to see a young Belloq on screen at the beginning of their friendship/rivalry.

Who would've been a good Belloq in the mid 1990s? Presuming you'd be setting it in maybe the late 1920s / early 1930s, it would probably have to be someone around 10-15 years younger than Paul Freeman (i.e. same approximate age as Flanery, maybe a bit older). Somebody like Paul McGann or Bruce Payne maybe.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I remember when a Luke Cage comic series written and drawn by Tartakovsky was announced and ended up never materialising.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

X-O posted:

It was released a few months back.

Oh, man, it passed me by. I'll have to get caught up. Was it any good?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Is Elementary good?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

It's better than Sherlock

:can:

Well, that sounds promising. I quite like Sherlock.

Though if I'm honest my favourite adaptation is probably the Guy Ritchie movies from a few years ago.

Nothing to equal the Granada series with Jeremy Brett, of course.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

wormil posted:

It starts well but quickly becomes extremely formulaic. Here is every episode: introduce half a dozen red herrings, pick one at random as guilty and justify with evidence discovered or exposed in the last five minutes. It's literally the worst kind of mystery and "Sherlock" is a slightly smarter than average guy with a database like brain with millions of random facts and suppositions that would only work on a TV show against two dimensional criminals. S1 and maybe 2 are worth watching, that's it.

Seems about right for Sherlock Holmes, I suppose.

Edit: Can anyone help me out with the title of this TV movie? At least, I'm pretty sure it was a TV movie. It was about this nebbish, insecure office worker with a porn addiction who starts making his own amateur porn movies, then films himself having sex with his girlfriend without her consent and ends up shooting her dead when he goes to threaten the his sleazy producer not to release the film? I remember seeing that on TV years and years ago and I saw an episode of some crime procedural recently which reminded me of it; like I say, I'm only pretty sure it was a TV movie.

Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Apr 1, 2017

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I feel like Sherlock at least aspires to be "prestige" television. You know, wins Emmys, that kind of thing?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

McSpanky posted:

Even that's been done better.

Jared Harris was so great as full-on Bond villain Moriarty in the second one. :allears:

I think Holmes has always been a bit of a superhero. Some versions just emphasise it a bit more. The original stories were mysteries but they weren't exactly whodunnits in the sense that you could follow the clues as reader and work it out for yourself; Holmes would use his superhuman deductive skills to work out the solution and explain it to Watson so everyone would be impressed. Of course, there's also a link between Holmes and Batman by way of the pulp heroes (the Shadow etc.).

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Snak posted:

Jimmy Smits should be in something good. He's a decent actor with some charisma. Very charming. But he's in like... nothing good. Ever.

Check out L.A. Law if you haven't and want to see Jimmy Smits. And he's pretty good as Not Barack Obama in the last two seasons of The West Wing (although I assume you have seen that one).

Fun fact: Jimmy Smits as Victor Sifuentes in L.A. Law inspired Sadiq Khan to become a lawyer and now he is Mayor of London.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Shageletic posted:

What had the worst final season? Including SoA, Weeds (what even happened there?), and Dexter. I just know what happened in all of them after quitting during their run mainly by how much spleen is thrown out online for them.

True Blood had a really bad final season.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

-Blackadder- posted:

Anyone who skips True Blood due it's lovely ending will miss out on the glorious Russell Edgington

Even the last season of True Blood had Eric and Pam's storyline which was pretty fun.

Remember how Christopher Meloni quit SVU after about 12 years to be on True Blood and his character was killed off after about three episodes?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Never watched Weeds but I remember one girl in the office who was a big fan insisting to me that it was at least as good as (if not better than) Breaking Bad on the acting, writing and general dramatics fronts which struck me as somewhat unlikely.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Is there another WGA strike possibly on the horizon, then? I noticed a BBC News site headline suggesting the possibility.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I can't take Pierce Brosnan seriously with his beard. He looks too much like Gerry Adams.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Mu Zeta posted:

AKA loudest redhead on the planet



Second-loudest.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Snak posted:

I also found Californication to be unwatchable despite loving Duchovny from X-Files. Add Dexter to that list and I've sworn off Showtime shows made after 2000.

You've got to watch at least the first two seasons of Penny Dreadful (the third one wasn't as bad as some of the "awful final seasons" that get discussed but it was still a step down).

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

STAC Goat posted:

The third season of Penny Dreadful is fine. I enjoyed the American journey and Eva Green is awesome as always.

I don't disagree - it was fine, but it a definite step down from the first two.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

STAC Goat posted:

I feel like Season 3 just struggled from the inherent difficulty of giving a satisfying ending and tie up for 2 seasons of big, sweeping mystery and horror. I think it did a fine job at it but you're always going to have some degree of dissatisfaction with the answers and endings when they're given. The show was just better when it was open ended and you were asking what was in the shadows, then when you actually find out.

I thought Reeve Carney and Billie Piper were just sort of there in the last season. Their arc was interesting enough but I think it's where it's most obvious that they were hoping for a fourth season, because it ends really abruptly. Maybe that's the point. I don't know.

One thing I discovered recently (from an interview between Mark Kermode and Kim Newman which they recorded in the last fortnight or so) is that a TV miniseries version of Anno Dracula had been optioned yet again but whichever production company or network or whatever had picked up decided not to proceed because Penny Dreadful was announced and they didn't want to have to compete with it.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Now I'm thinking that you probably could've filled out the cast for an adaptation of Anno Dracula pretty well using the cast of Penny Dreadful.

Dye Eva Green blonde and she'd have made a great Geneviève Dieudonné. :D

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

feedmyleg posted:

History's greatest missed opportunity is that we never got a Superman '66 companion TV show to Batman '66. Imagine Superman's pal Jimmy Olson and a spunky Lois Lane as high camp.

I'm bummed out just thinking about it.

Who would've played Superman?

It would've been William Shatner, wouldn't it?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Longbaugh01 posted:

By the way, in this James Garner Superman '66 Lex Luthor would be played by Telly Savalas because of course he would be played by him.

Coincidentally, I rewatched The Assassination Bureau (one of my favourite movies) last night, in which Telly Savalas is practically playing Luthor.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Paracaidas posted:

Noticed far more of these on children's and teen shows. Can't imagine why.

Just like TV Tropes.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Party Plane Jones posted:

Blade Trinity was not good primarily because Wesley Snipes had gone off the deep end by that point. They were constantly changing the script and filming with his stand in because he refused to work and would only communicate with the director via post-its written to Blade.

Patton Oswalt has a great postmortem on it:

Was that the one where Snipes refused to open his eyes in one scene so they had to CGI it in?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Jack Gladney posted:

Perfect Strangers: The Next Generation! The Next Step By Step! Teen Angel 2020! Extended Family Matters! Kimmie Gibbler's Place! AfterS.A.B.R.I.N.A.!

When I was little, I thought Sailor Moon was some kind of Japanese cartoon version of Sabrina the Teenage Witch because the main character was a blonde girl called Serena (which sounded sort of like "Sabrina") whose sidekick was a talking black cat.

That was my stupid childhood misconception.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

precision posted:

I think American Gods is more or less Gaiman's worst novel, though I wouldn't go so far as to say it's actively bad. It's no worse than a mid-tier King novel, for example. Its worst problems are with pacing and tone, which are both all over the loving map, and the show is starting out in a similar way, except the kooky tonal shifts work better in a trippy visual medium.

I think Gaiman's short story collections are generally better than his novels. I prefer stuff like "A Study In Emerald" or to American Gods or Anansi Boys (though I liked both of those books). Neverwhere is very good on its own, though; it's probably his best novel.

Would rather read Kim Newman, though. Shame that none of his stuff has ever managed to get adapted.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I understand that American Gods has already been renewed for another season, which seems confident of them.

Is Gaiman still writing a sequel? I've heard he's been plugging away at American Gods 2 for years, though he's not GRRM level or anything.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Seeing about half the main cast (including the main character) of Once Upon a Time leaving in the next season has me wondering: a) are there any other series (soaps notwithstanding) that dispensed with a large part of their cast like this; and b) did any of them manage to pull it off successfully?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Wandle Cax posted:

It's very bizarre for a show to be un-cancelled and especially only a few days after it was cancelled though. Has it happened before?

Didn't that happen to Nashville? I think its cancellation was announced then it was given a truncated final season to finish its story a couple of days later.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Timby posted:

The record Wolf cares about is the longest-running prime-time drama. The original Law & Order is tied with Gunsmoke at 20 seasons. Wolf was pissed when NBC yanked the promised Season 21 away from him.

Has he explicitly said he wants to beat the record or is it just a common knowledge thing that he does?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Guy Mann posted:

Tarantino played a recurring villain in Alias, and that show was so weird that it probably doesn't even enter the upper tier of weird things they did on it.

The annoying thing is that he was the villain in a pretty good two-part episode and he's arrested at the end, and that could've been the end of the character, but instead they bring him back for a one-off appearance and suggest he's high up in the villainous conspiracy, then after that, nothing, because Quentin Tarantino's a busy guy.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
How's the TV series Nikita? If it is worth watching, does it require any foreknowledge of other versions of the character? I have not seen La Femme Nikita with Peta Wilson, nor have I seen the film Nikita directed by Luc Besson. However, I have seen the 1993 remake of the aforementioned Besson film, The Assassin (a.k.a. Point of No Return) starring Bridget Fonda.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Sure, I liked Alias a whole lot.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
What about Revenge? Finish the sentence for me: "Revenge is recommended to people who enjoyed..."

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Does anyone ever binge watch multiple series at once? For example, you'd get a box set for two shows and alternate them? I've only ever picked one show and watched it the whole way through but my brother was telling me the other day how he switches it up and watches two shows at once four episodes of each (i.e. one disc of a DVD set) at a time. I'm curious if that's something people do because he's the only person I know who does it.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Rhyno posted:

I'm binging Supernatural finally but still watching all my regular shows every 2 or 3 episodes.

Oh, I don't mean having one series you're binging while you're watching current ongoing shows at the same time; I mean when you're binging more than one series - not ones you're following week to week - at once.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
RIP Sir Roger Moore, who will always be Simon Templar to me. :(

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

raditts posted:

Does it really cost that much to license music from the '70s at this point? Cold Case, that crime procedural from last decade, had multiple cheesy songs from the '70s on like every other episode.

One of those shows that went on for years and years but in retrospect doesn't really seem like it was such a big deal. See also: Without a Trace, to some extent Law & Order: Criminal Intent and CSI: NY etc.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Honestly, if they get through the American Gods novel and Anasi Boys, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they found a way to incorporate Neverwhere as well.

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