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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

syscall girl posted:

After having glimpsed a bit of Transformers I will say Shakespeare in Texas as an idea is infinitely more appealing than Bay has any right to have stumbled upon.

It's not exactly Texas but there's a movie called Scotland, PA which is Macbeth but centered around a man trying to become the manager of a fast food restaurant in rural 1970s Pennsylvania.

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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Neo Rasa posted:

Oh also besides all of this schlock and goofy dogshit Cannon is also responsible for Runaway Train which is a legit really good movie and began life as a Kurosawa film.

Runaway Train was also directed by the guy who co-wrote Tarkovsky's first few movies. It's also notable as being the film debut of Danny Trejo.

Anyways I've been meaning to see The Apple since it was featured on How Did This Get Made a few years ago, and all this talk is making me think the time has finally come to make the plunge.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Tars Tarkas posted:

It will probably be an editorial mess like Rogue One was, but IMHO they at least pulled that off into a passable film I like better than Episode 7. Multiple books will be written about this movie, weird thinkpieces, oral histories, lots of things to consume, many might be better than the film itself. Or not, who knows?!

Probably a lot less than if it was for another movie. Force Awakens was supposed to have a fully detailed making-of book about its conception and development and filming, but even the issues with that meant it got shelved by Lucasfilm. There's no way they'll let anything come out about the development of something that's an even bigger mess like this, especially since it would reflect badly on the brand.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Neo Rasa posted:

The integrity of a brand with Star Wars of all things' merchandising and EU needs to be preserved at all costs.

Lucasfilm has spent the last 20 years relentlessly promoting the idea that the prequels are actually great and Jar Jar is actually a beloved character so I don't think it's incongruent to assume they wouldn't want to talk about a development of a movie whose main message would be "Boy, we really hosed up badly."

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Dunkirk just seemed like such a strange choice for Nolan. I'm sure it will be at least decent but a straightforward war movie just seems like something that lacks the "hook" (for lack of a better word) that all of Nolan's previous movies have had. I guess if the movie focuses on the bizarreness of soldiers just waiting to be picked up in this cold sandy beach while the enemy refuses to fight, but I can't see that sustaining an entire movie.

Plus, I think it's his first movie since Insomnia without Michael Caine.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Sir Kodiak posted:

If that's Nolan's pattern, I guess we're getting Memento II in a couple years.

Isn't there a (Nolan-less) remake of Memento that was announced not too long ago?

Guy Mann posted:

Autism as a super power is beyond trite but The Accountant at least made it fun by translating it into rear end-kicking powers on top of being really good at math.

How about Brad Pitt as an autistic astronaut who has to rescue his dad, non-autistic astronaut Tommy Lee Jones, who was captured by aliens around Neptune?

http://deadline.com/2017/06/tommy-lee-jones-brad-pitt-ad-astra-james-gray-new-regency-1202119181/

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

RedSpider posted:

Neil Blomkamp's short films 'Rakka' and 'Firebase' on youtube are both more impressive than Elysium and especially that steaming pile of poo poo Chappie. The special effects in Firebase are top notch for such a low budget. Maybe he might redeem himself in the near future?

He also did the continuation of the BMW "Hire" short films/ads starring Clive Owen last year. It was decent, but not as good as some of the earlier Hire shorts from 15 years earlier (especially the ones by Ang Lee, Guy Ritchie, and Tony Scott). That said I liked Firebase a lot.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Basebf555 posted:

At it's best, Bond is a travelogue series. If it's not taking you to exotic locations and showing you fantastic sights, it's probably a lesser Bond movie. There are a few exceptions of course, the series has been around a long time, but for the most part it's at it's best when the locations are eye popping.

Also notable is that Fleming's older brother Peter wrote a number of travelogues from exotic locations in the 1930s, and I know at least some Fleming biographers argue (no idea how true it is myself) that Ian wanting to imitate Peter was partly why he got into writing Bond.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

It would be cool to do a piece about Ian Fleming's wife, who at some point started pushing back on some of his stupider ideas. Enough about the guy with the golden typewriter.

After the Suez Crisis, the UK Prime Minister Anthony Eden went to stay with the Flemings in Jamaica. At the time, Ann Fleming was carrying on an affair with Eden's leader of the opposition, Hugh Gaitskell. Additionally, Casino Royale was published by Macmillan, the book publisher's owned by the family of Eden's successor as PM, Harold Macmillan.

Phanatic posted:

Another was to get Aleister Crowley to convince Rudolph Hess that there was a secret cell of pro-German Englishmen operating in the UK who wanted to depose Churchill, so that they could feed Hess false information. Crowley was tapped because Hess was even more of a nutbag than most of the other Nazi leaders and was hugely into astrology and the occult and all that. This plan ended up being overtaken by events, because the dumbass flew a plane to England all on his own to try to negotiate a peace treaty behind Hitler's back (There's speculation that he was convinced this would work by another British intelligence ruse, but the relevant files are still sealed...one source credits Fleming with *that* plan as well but there's no corroboration) and was, as you'd expect, taken prisoner.

Fleming/Crowley's WWII interaction and the flight of Hess are two of the many plots of the fantastic 2012 novel The House of Rumour by Jake Arnott. I highly recommend it.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Big Mean Jerk posted:

That's the exclusive property of the upcoming Dark Horse Comics Dark Horse Cinematic Universe (or the DHC^2U if you prefer).

Speaking of Dark Horse adaptations, Umbrella Academy just got announced as the next Netflix adaptation.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I know this was a number of pages ago now but I just got around to watching Overnight after it was discussed in this thread, and holy poo poo... that whole situation couldn't have happened to a more deserving person (and of course if he hadn't been such a narcissistic shithead it probably wouldn't have happened). And watching that group of greasy Irish-Bostonian stereotypes constantly over-drinking and chain-smoking made me a bit queasy.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008


Is 12 Feet Deep the second installment of the 47 Meters Down Cinematic Universe?

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Rakka seemed to be more like Falling Skies than anything. It felt very much like a remake of it.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Baron von Eevl posted:

1) only one of those movies is about Wiseau and Sestero, the other is just starring them and inspired by them.
2) the DP on the Disaster Artist is the older brother from the post-apocalyptic DDR movie.

Paul Scheer (who plays the DP in Disaster Artist) is also in the other Wiseau/Sestero movie.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I rewatched The Lost World and Jurassic Park III since they were on IFC yesterday. I think it was actually the first time I've seen Jurassic Park III since I saw it the one time in theaters when it came out.

Lost World is impressive in how much worse the CGI was than the first one, I think from overuse of the dinosaurs at close range, especially the raptors. It also felt far less tense - the scene near the end when they're in the radio center with the raptors is so much less compelling than the raptor kitchen scene in the first one. I did really like the scene with the trailer hanging off the cliff and the "long grass" scene, even though it was only a minute or so long. The score is also fairly disappointing - it's up there with Force Awakens for John Williams just phoning it in and relying on past stuff, not just Jurassic Park but it also feels a lot like an Indiana Jones soundtrack. And there's still the huge plot hole with how the single T-rex seemingly killed everyone on the ship, including getting into the cabin. I do think that as hokey as the T-rex in San Diego endpiece in, it is definitely more memorable than any sequence in Jurassic World. The cast was great though, and the characters pretty well developed.

Jurassic Park III shocked me from just how cheap it looked. The CGI, the small cast of nobodies playing trite stereotypes, the marriage reconciliation storyline for Tea Leoni and William H. Macy, the very obvious greenscreening for segments... just junk. I couldn't believe it cost one and a half times the budget of the original.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Cythereal posted:

It is the only movie that comes to mind where the military arrives to fight the monsters and the military actually wins. Maybe The Mist.

Shaun of the Dead.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Went to see The Big Sick today, and beforehand they had one of those ad/infomercial type things for some movie starring Ryan Reynolds, Samuel L. Jackson, and Salma Hayek. Looking it up now, it's called The Hitman's Bodyguard. I bring it up because it comes out in a month and I had never even heard of it before today. I can only imagine how much it's going to bomb.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

My thoughts on Valerian from the comic thread:

Chairman Capone posted:

Just saw Valerian. The theater was almost empty - maybe a dozen or so total besides me, and I think at least four of them walked out about the 2/3 mark. My views (keeping in mind I have not read the comics):

The pros:
  • Great visuals and designs for the aliens, ships, environments (at least most of the time) and some interesting sci-fi concepts. Main reason I wanted to see the movie in the first place.
  • Ethan Hawke and Rihanna put in good, if small, performances. (Honestly, I thought Rihanna was better than either of the main leads.)
  • Really liked the opening credits montage.
  • The villains were a racist military officer who uses human access to the galactic free market and claims of cultural superiority to justify covering up genocide, which seems tailor made to appeal to the CineD crowd.


The cons:
  • The story was trite and the dialogue was bland.
  • Way, way too long. There was no reason this was almost 2.5 hours long. None at all.
  • At multiple points throughout the movie, major plot points are given out in huge chunks of expository dialogue. Rutger Hauer is wasted so he can give a 30 second monologue during the opening credits to help set up the premise.
  • Dane DeHaan and Cara Delevigne are really wooden actors and have no chemistry with each other, even though 90% of their interactions are supposed to be endearing flirtations. Almost none of the other actors in here acquitted themselves much, either.
  • Related to the above, Valerian was a completely unsympathetic and annoying/borderline gross character. He was probably intended to come across as a charming Han Solo rogue type but was portrayed more like a sleazy PUA in space. This may have to do with my above point about Dane DeHaan.
  • This felt very derivative. I know people are going to say that Mass Effect and Star Wars and Blade Runner stole stuff from the original comics or whatever, but even beyond the visual references (and whether that's true or not, as someone who hasn't read the comics but has seen those movies/games, it's really hard not to see them being pretty blatant in some of the designs) there are shots clearly borrowing from iconic Star Wars scenes and other shots clearly inspired by sci-fi FPS games, Cara Delevigne even has an "I have a bad feeling about this," and to be honest, there were multiple times when I felt like the movie was recreating parts of The Phantom Menace, of all movies.
  • Again, perhaps related to the above, this felt less like a movie and more like watching a Let's Play of Mass Effect or EVE or something like that.


The weird:
  • There's a space hooker who imitates Jessica Rabbit.


Ultimately, while I did really love a lot of the visuals in the movie, I can't really recommend it.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

Allegedly he has almost no real teeth left.

I'm curious as to why Whoopi is in this poo poo. She's got a successful show already and probably rakes in enough in royalties to never have to work again.

Isn't she a 9/11 Truther also? Although maybe I'm confusing it with her being a "the moon landings were faked" conspiracist.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

At the end of the Ready Player One book, the main character, because he won the challenge, is given the equivalent of a big red button that if pushed would delete the entire virtual world forever. Crossing my fingers that Spielberg ends the movie with him pushing the button.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Neo Rasa posted:

I was hoping WB would fully leverage 00s "nostalgia" and have Harry Potter/Lord of the Rings/etc. 00s stuff only in it to maximally anger people who like the book while still making a billion dollars anyway because it's a movie with those characters in it.

There is some post-80s stuff in the book. I'm pretty sure Harry Potter and LOTR get a few mentions, and the main character flies around in the ship from Firefly. Funnily enough he also mentions there being additional Indiana Jones movies after Crystal Skull, but only the six Star Warses.

Reading the RP1 wiki page just now, apparently Cline based the African-American lesbian character on Harry Knowles, which is just hilariously ridiculous.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

The MSJ posted:

Looks pretty scaly to me. I think he was supposed to look like the original pre-snout Lizard in the Ditko comics.


Electro was really the best part of ASM2. They actually time his use of powers to the music, and the soundtrack incorporates the crazy voices in his head.

Makes me think it was supposed to evoke the human-dinosauroid thought experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troodon#The_.22Dinosauroid.22

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Vegetable posted:

The joker should be a Native American guy who goes around killing imperialist whites and the story should be white society is terrified but everybody else is like meh

There are a ton of Western films made in the Eastern Bloc in the 1960s/70s that are pretty much this. "The Sons of Great Bear" is probably the best example.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

PotatoManJack posted:

I'd actually really like to see a cinematic take on Animal Farm

Isn't Andy Serkis planning on directing an Animal Farm film after his Jungle Book one comes out?

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:

One of the networks did an adaptation of Animal Farm that I thought was alright in the 90s.

There have been two adaptations of Animal Farm, and I love how both of them show clearly the eras they were made in. The 1950s cartoon ends with the animals launching a revolution to overthrow the pigs. The live action one from the 1990s that ends with the pigs vanishing and the humans coming back to take over the farm and all the animals welcoming them back.

The 1990s one has some good voices in it, too. Patrick Stewart is Napoleon, as I recall. Pete Postlethwait as the farmer they overthrow.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

well why not posted:

jokes aside, I can't wait to see what Taika Waititi does next.

It's the We're Wolves sequel to What We Do in the Shadows, isn't it?

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Timby posted:

Natasha Lyonne became a junkie, Thomas Ian Nicholas is doing garbage like Walt Before Mickey (truly one of the dumbest, most mind-numbing movies I've ever seen), I couldn't tell you the last time I saw Chris Klein (outside of NASH OUT) or Jason Biggs anywhere, I think Mena Suvari and Shannon Elizabeth are doing DTV stuff ... I guess Eddie Kaye Thomas is on Scorpion, isn't he?

So, yeah, ouch. That series certainly didn't launch any careers.

I think John Cho and Casey Affleck both had bit roles in the first two movies. So maybe it's an inverse-square screentime-to-success ratio.

Young Freud posted:

People forgetting that she's got top billing in those ridiculously popular Sharknado movies.

Are the Sharknado movies really still that popular? I feel like after the third one I just stopped hearing anything about them, other than the occasional bit of bad press over stuff like the union busting on set and them having to edit out Jared Fogle. And the huge number of cameos they pack them with can't be all that cheap, just from the number of them alone.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Skwirl posted:

Edit: Is there a list of Black List scripts that ended up getting made? I wonder what good:bad ratio on those would be.

Looking it up, Wikipedia has a list of them. There's definitely a range. Bad Teacher and X-Men Origins: Wolverine are on there, but so are Arrival, John Wick, and The Revenant, for example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_List_(survey)

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008


Not unexpected, but great to have it official. I liked John Wick, but Chapter 2 was just such a fun movie. Great visual style and I admire its willingness to just fully embrace this bizarre secret society of ritualistic assassins full on.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I Live, I Die, I Live Again!

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Kanish posted:

Speaking of Avatar, can anyone tell me why they made a theme park for it? I just don't know a single person who really was that engrossed into the avatar "universe" to care enough about it to even go to a theme park, much less 9 years later. Hell, I cant even remember a single name of any of the characters.

Disney approached Cameron about making an Avatar theme park only a year and a half or so after Avatar came out, at a time when hype for it was still big, and more importantly, at a time when the sequels were supposed to start coming out in 2015. So if everything was on track, the park would be opening in time to cash in on the huge Avatar Mania of Avatar 2-5.

Also of note, this was a year before Disney bought Lucasfilm and decided they would start churning out their own annual space fantasy series. I'm sure if they had gotten Lucasfilm first they never would have bothered with Avatar World.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Vegetable posted:

Disney should just buy Studio Ghibli and have them churn out classics on the regular.

That was something Disney was rumored to be looking to do a few years ago. I feel like I remember back in the 90s or early 00s, there were also rumors that Disney was interested in buying Nintendo.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

got any sevens posted:

In mid October they're replaying Princess Bride on 2 days for the 30th anniversary. Fuckin love that movie.

Is it just me or are there a higher than usual number of re-releases that came/are coming out this summer/fall? Princess Bride, ET, Close Encounters, Wrath of Khan, Wall Street, even the Samurai Jack TV movie getting a theatrical release, I feel like a couple more I'm missing. I guess it's a sign of the slow movie season.

got any sevens posted:

There is a sequel book, actually. Or it was a few bonus chapters at the end of the first, something like that. Fezzik helped babysit Westley and buttercup's kid.

I think Goldman just wrote those chapters as a joke for the 20th anniversary of the novel or something like that. I can't imagine he'll ever get around to actually doing something with it, I don't think Goldman has written a novel since before the Princess Bride movie came out.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Guy Mann posted:

Just reading Harry Knowles' Blade 2 review made me feel violated, I can't imagine how much worse it would be to actually get groped by the dude.

https://twitter.com/NakatomiTim/status/912517434363584512

I remember back when Heroes started in 2006 a big chunk of his review was him talking about how because Claire was a virgin when she developed her powers she would always have a hymen no matter how many times she had sex and how excited that thought made him.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Really just Genesys. The Sarah Conner Chronicles and Salvation each incorporated stuff from T3 (Sarah's future cancer death in the former, whatever her name was that is John's wife in Salvation).

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

The MSJ posted:

Remember that Cleopatra movie that is having a hard time getting made and had everyone from David Fincher to Ang Lee attached to it? Now Dennis Villeneuve is in talks to direct.

http://collider.com/denis-villeneuve-cleopatra-sony/

Is Villeneuve actually rumored to be in consideration for the next Bond? I'd be interested in that. Though actually, I guess we already got Skyfall with Roger Deakins as cinematographer, which is a close second.

But really, stick with Dune, Denis!

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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Syfy also did a Neverland miniseries a few years ago that was decent. Rhys Ifans was Hook, Keira Knightley was Tinkerbell, and they even got Bob Hoskins back as Smee. Charles Dance was also in it.

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