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A Wrestling Fan’s Guide to Tokyo and Japan A big thanks to harperdc for putting the above together -------------- Next cards: quote:
Links: NJPW's official website NJPW World Watch all major shows live or on demand for only about $10 a month Senor LARIATO's spreadsheet of must watch matches in the NJPW World Archives Chris Charlton's twitter providing translations of Japanese language promos and interviews PUROLOVE has results, schedules, and official gate figures for all puro feds large and small Voices of Wrestling covers New Japan well and their forums are actually decent unlike most wrestling message boards I've seen besides this one. They have an ebook available covering NJPW in 2016 which is available with a pay-what-you-want donation. Forum thread for all puro outside of NJPW and DG Thauros fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Dec 18, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 13:42 |
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quote:NJPW "WRESTLE KINGDOM 11 IN TOKYO DOME", 04.01.2017 (NJPW World) quote:NJPW "NEW YEAR DASH !!", 05.01.2017 (NJPW World) Thauros fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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lot of people are up in arms over LIJ's treatment on NYD. I'm usually the first on the push Naito bandwagon but really don't see an issue. Naito was pinned by Elgin only after interference by Dragon Lee while Hiromu still has never been pinned. I don't personally understand the trios title decision from today either but those titles really don't mean much anyway and BUSHI doesn't really need protected. The only person they've really ever helped is David Finlay. I'm on board with the big Suzuki-gun return for now as well. MiSu vs. Okada for the title hasn't been done since I think Dontaku 2013 and KES is probably the best tag team the company has. Yes, Iizuka and Taichi are trash but hopefully they're not really focused on much in a company with more depth. Kanemaru is often uninspired but he has talent and hopefully he shows a bit of a spark now that he's out of a company he never really wanted to go back to.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 16:12 |
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Wazzu posted:So I haven't really watched since last year's Wrestle Kingdom. Allegedly the can't miss matches are Okada vs Ishii, Omega vs Naito, one of the Okada vs Marafuji matches (which one). Kamaitachi vs. Dragon Lee-Fantasticamania, Okada vs. Naito-Invasion Attack, KUSHIDA vs. Liger- Dontaku, Ricochet vs. Ospreay- BOSJ, Tanahashi vs. Okada - G1 A Block final show, Shibata vs. Kojima Thauros fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Jan 5, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 16:39 |
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yeah the proper word would be re-debut, but it's Dave, y'know? The return of a 7 person stable that includes a guy main eventing your next big show plus an incredibly talented guest star set to resume one of the best rivalries of recent years qualifies as big I'm skeptical that this is happening myself, but LIGERFEVER's afraid that NJPW totally screwed over CMLL and is sending them Yoshitatsu in exchange for DL and that he's gonna stay for a fairly lengthy term like Dorada did. Thauros fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jan 5, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 17:08 |
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Shibata vs. Suzuki would be a natural feud they've never really done. I was on board with the Goto switch but now I wish they'd have waited
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 20:03 |
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Super No Vacancy posted:<-suzuki-gun--LIJ--bullet club--CHAOS--GBH--new japan main force-> harperdc posted:I could understand BC being on the slide a bit but I didn't realize LIJ are considered bigger heels than they are. Super No Vacancy posted:my rationale is LIJ does vicious things like neck chairshots or targeting elgin's eye whereas bullet club basically does hijinx to try to steal wins, and dresses up as the ghostbusters or the terminator. naito is a cool heel but kenny is like barelllly a heel at all suzuki-gun's def at the most heelish end. I'd rate LIJ and BC the same. Both have some straightforward heel members (BC's Tongans and Yujiro , EVIL and SANADA for LIJ), with cool heel leaders who are happy to soak up the adulation of their unit's fans. LIJ can be more vicious true, but also is more likely to be cheered over faces. Kenny's very over and absolutely a star, but I've never seen him get definitively cheered over someone like a Tana, Okada, or KUSHIDA the way LIJ dudes have. Thauros fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jan 6, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 01:27 |
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i wonder if the third gen guys are pissed at all that they've received collectively one IWGP Heavyweight Title shot in the Bushiroad era iirc (Kojima at Destruction 2013) while 48 year old MiSu is a stable leader and still booked as a main event caliber level badass rather than an old dude?Super No Vacancy posted:wait forgot one v true. btw I'd love to have been able to spy on the phone call/texts between Billy Gunn and Triple H regarding Tatsu's new gimmick.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 01:47 |
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Oh, and could harperdc or anyone else with knowledge of Japanese shed light on what the Boat Race thing that prominently sponsored WK and NYD is? http://boatrace-3days2017.jp/ Obiously Tana/Okada/Makabe are involved but I can't figure out much beyond it. Thauros fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jan 6, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 02:36 |
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harperdc posted:Looks like a cross-promotion event with BOAT RACE in Japan, better known as Kyotei https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyōtei huh i knew about keirin and obviously parimutuel betting on horse racing is commonplace in the west but I had no idea there was an aquatic equivalent
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 02:49 |
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I thought I read something about him signing a new deal? I'll give the man credit, he's very good at working me. I thought he was gone for sure when he was doing the poo poo with The New Day but assumed he was staying now.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 14:09 |
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And woah, no Dragon Lee vs. Hiromu for the IWGP jr title at Fantasticamania. Must mean it's being held off for New BEginning.Solus posted:NJPW managed to trade Dragon loving Lee for Yoshitatsu. It's not going to be on World but at least one of the non Korakuen shows usually makes Japanese TV. If it does the Real Hero guys will upload it since there's no legal way for us to watch it otherwise. Thauros fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Jan 6, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 14:12 |
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Thauros posted:
The first show on the 13th from Osaka #2 will air on the 19th and be available on the RH Drive on the 20th. None in between the opener and the Korakuen triple shot will make tape. One nice bonus of the Samurai show is that the CMLL themes won't be edited out.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 16:57 |
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Speaking of Fantasticamania, if you want to whet your appetite tonight's Arena Mexico show looks great! If you didn't know it's streamed live at http://www.clarosports.com/en-vivo02/ Mexico City's on CST so it'll be 9:30 EST.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 17:05 |
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Super No Vacancy posted:they have champions lose in tags/multimans all the time to set up future challengers, they did the same thing with goto. you should differentiate tag losses from singles losses he also only lost after interference from a big name guest star making his return. Phenix Rising posted:I haven't followed NJPW in a year. What does this mean/reference? Is NJPW touring the US?! NJPW has a show termed a "G1 Special" in Long Beach in July. No one seems to know exactly what it is but unfortunately what it isn't is a real G1 tournament show. If you mean what they did a year ago he means the Jan 4 raid when Nakamura, Styles, Anderson, and Gallows all gave notice that they were leaving the company. Thauros fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jan 9, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 01:59 |
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Okada and Naito are gonna have prominent places on the poster as they're big stars. Wouldn't necessarily read too much into that.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 20:23 |
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Mercury Crusader posted:When are they gonna put Scott "Flapjack" Norton and Cheeseburger together as a tag team? I wonder if they'd qualify as a junior team if they fit under the combined weight limit?
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 05:32 |
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Phenix Rising posted:I love Minoru and TAKA. When did they show up?? I really fell off of following NJPW after last year's WK. New Year's Dash. It's a good run in/beatdown segement at the end of the semi-main. I see I was right about another tag threeway.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 14:24 |
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My suspicions on another tag threeway were correct. There's also a match between Shibata and Ospreay that will be for the RPW championship assuming Shibata retains vs. Riddle. NJPW Road to New Beginning Janurary 27th at 4:30 EST/9:30 GMT Korakuen Hall Yuji Nagata vs. Tomoyuki Oka Jushin "Thunder" Liger, Tiger Mask, and Yoshitatsu vs. David Finlay, Henare, and Hirai Kawato CHAOS (YOSHI-HASHI, Jado, and Gedo) vs. Suzuki-gun (Takashi Iizuka, Yoshinobu Kanemaru, and El Desperado) TenCozy vs. Killer Elite Squad Katsuyori Shibata, GBH, and Juice vs. CHAOS (Goto, Ishii, YTR, and Ospreay) Tanahashi, Nakanishi, Taguchi, Elgin, and KUSHIDA vs. L.I.J (Naito, SANADA, EVIL, Hiromu, and BUSHI) CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada and RPG Vice) vs. Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki, TAKA Michinoku, and Taichi) NJPW New Beginning Sapporo February 5th at 1 AM EST/6 AM GMT Hokkaido Prefectural Sports Center KUSHIDA and Hirai Kawato vs. Suzuki-gun (Yoshinobu Kanemaru and El Desperado) Yuji Nagata and TenCozy vs. David Finlay, Yoshitatsu, and Henare Katsuyori Shibata, Jushin Liger, and Tiger Mask vs. CHAOS (Will Ospreay, Jado, and Gedo) YOSHI-HASHI vs. Takashi Iizuka Tanahashi, Nakanishi, Taguchi, Elgin, and Dragon Lee vs. L.I.J(Naito, Hiromu, SANADA, EVIL, and BUSHI) IWGP Jr. Tag Championship Match:RPG Vice(c) vs. Suzuki-gun (TAKA and Taichi) NEVER Openweight Championship:Hirooki Goto (c) vs. Juice Robinson IWGP Tag Team Championship 3Way:CHAOS [YTR/Ishii](c) vs. GBH vs. KES IWGP Heavyweight Championship:Kazuchika Okada(c) vs. Minoru Suzuki Road to New Beginning February 7th at 4:30 AM EDT/9:30 GMT Korakuen Hall Henare vs. Tomoyuki Ota Yuji Nagata and Satoshi Kojima vs. David Finlay and Yoshitatsu Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Jushin Liger, and Tiger Mask vs. Suzuki-gun (Takashi Iizuka, Yoshinobu Kanemaru, and El Desperado) Elimination Match:Katsuyori Shibata, GBH, KUSHIDA, and Juice Robinson vs. CHAOS (Goto, Y-H, Ospreay, Jado, and Gedo) Elimination Match:CHAOS (Okada, YTR, Ishii, and RPG Vice) vs. Suzuki-Gun (MiSu, KES, Taka, and Taichi) Elimination Match:Tana, Elgin, Nakanishi, Dragon Lee, and Taguchi vs. L.I.J (Naito, SANADA, EVIL, Hiromu, and BUSHI) For those who aren't aware over the top rope eliminations count as well as standard pinfalls/subs in NJPW elimination matches New Beginning Osaka February 11th at 4:00 EDT/9:00 GMT EDION Arena Osaka Yoshitatsu and Hirai Kawato vs. David Finlay and Henare TenCozy and KUSHIDA vs. Suzuki-gun (Takashi Iizuka, Yoshinobu Kanemaru, and El Desperado) Nagata, Juice, Liger, and TMIV vs. CHAOS (Goto, YOSHI, Jado, and Gedo) CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada and RPG Vice) vs. Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki, TAKA, and Taichi) NEVER Trios Championship:Hiroshi Tanahashi, Manabu Nakanishi, and Ryusuke Taguchi vs. L.I.J (SANADA, EVIL, and BUSHI) Katsuyori Shibata vs. Will Ospreay (for the RPW title if Shibata's still the champ) IWGP Tag Championship 3 Way: CHAOS (YTR/Ishii) vs. KES vs. GBH (champions tbd in Sapporo) IWGP Jr Heavyweight Championship:Hiromu Takahashi(c) vs. Dragon Lee IWGP Intercontinental Championship:Tetsuya Naito(c) vs. Michael Elgin Thauros fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jan 11, 2017 |
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RealFoxy posted:I wonder what Kota Ibushi's going to be doing moving forward. Ibushi/Omega seems like a money feud in NJPW but I think he's still wrestling's Buddhist Monk and intent on.....Doing whatever it is he plans on doing with his career. I highly doubt Ibushi will wear the Lion Mark ever again but if he can freelance as a cartoon character I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him return for a program with Omega.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 18:47 |
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I think KES is arguably the best team in the division. Desperado and TAKA are ok for junior depth and can be fun in the right situation.. Iizuka's terrible and Taichi's arguably worse because they'd be more likely to focus on him. Iizuka'a 50 year old bad brawler. Taichi's in his mid 30s and is just a lovely worker who I've never seen have an impressive singles match in years. Imagine basically the jr equivalent of Yujiro in that the only appeal is his valet(s). I am a fan of both their themes tho. Kanemaru's the mystery. His NOAH work was absolutely terrible but he obviously did not want to be there and he's shown flashes of still being a competent worker. Hopefully he shows more now that he's out of there. I'm higher on this than most people who have watched NOAH over the last two years because I really don't think they'll be booked the same way in NJPW and we'll be seeing less of Taichi and Iizuka in prominent roles. Thauros fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jan 11, 2017 |
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its me glenda posted:i set aside a budget of $2500usd for tokyo dome next year will that be enough and should we devote a travel thread after g1 for the dome if enough goons are goin again i wish that would be enough in my case cause I'd go. usually when i've looked that's what plane tickets alone cost for me
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 20:08 |
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I honestly wouldn't be hat worried about expenses once I'm over there as I don't mind cheap lodging. gently caress, I'd want to stay in a capsule motel one night just for the experience. Have to look more into airfare options
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 23:11 |
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Nagata is the best New Japan dad, but Kojima is the cool uncle who takes you for ice cream when your dad is being too hard on you. Give him a follow if you haven't already https://twitter.com/cozy_lariat/status/819519276281307138
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 17:04 |
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You wonder who the hell they'll even get to do commentary if Corino goes to WWE as everyone expected last month.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 17:35 |
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https://twitter.com/youkmcy is her twitter.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 10:49 |
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I figured the Taichi situation was a close analogue and he got a major push (albeit in NOAH) not long after his suspension and paycut, but a bunch of people said that the Taichi sexts occured four years before they were publicly revealed.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 15:58 |
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Oh wow, I saw that in the first picture I saw her tweet and I wondered where it came from
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2017 22:58 |
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It's been so long since I've listened to his commentary and that was in a radically different promotion so I have no clue whether he's a good choice or not.
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 15:00 |
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@Alize7777777 posted:
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https://twitter.com/FortuneKK_0327/status/821933773868572672
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 06:00 |
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Solus posted:Who's ready for Fantasticamania? Get Hype First card is tomorrow morning at 5:30 EDT/10:30 GMT NJPW/CMLL Fantasticamania January 20th at 4:30 EDT/9:30 GMT Korakuen Hall Dragón Lee (c) vs. Bárbaro Cavernario - CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship Match Titán vs. Hiromu Takahashi Mistico, Volador Jr. and Juice Robinson vs. Último Guerrero, Euforia and Okada Atlantis, Tanahashi, Kushida, Taguchi and David Finlay vs. Rush, Naito, Sanada, ”King of Darkness” Evil and Bushi Máximo Sexy and Stuka Jr. vs. Hechicero and Okumura Soberano Jr., Liger and Tiger Mask vs. Raziel, Jado and Gedo Blue Panther Jr. and Henare vs. Ephesto and Will Ospreay
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Thrifting Day! posted:Did NJPW world do a broadcast in English for the CMLL Fantastica show? No, although both NB shows will have it. Here's tomorrow's card, looks p solid. NJPW/CMLL Fantasticamania January 21st at 4:30 EDT/9:30 GMT Korakuen Hall Máximo Sexy (c) vs. Hechicero - CMLL World Heavyweight Title Match Atlantis vs. Rush Mistico and Volador Jr. vs. Último Guerrero and Euforia Dragón Lee, Titán, Tanahashi, Juice Robinson and David Finlay vs. Naito, Sanada, ”King of Darkness” Evil, Hiromu Takahashi and Bushi Soberano Jr., Kushida and Taguchi vs. Bárbaro Cavernario, Okada and Will Ospreay Stuka Jr. vs. Okumura Blue Panther Jr., Liger, Tiger Mask and Henare vs. Ephesto, Raziel, Jado and Gedo
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2017 01:51 |
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Wiccan Wasteland posted:So I'm finally getting around to watching Wrestle Kingdom and... um... are the ring mics up too loud because there is so much cursing lmfao. They should do a Gedo vs. Makabe match on a Road to Show without commentary.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2017 08:40 |
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NJPW/CMLL Fantasticamania January 22nd at 4:30 EDT/9:30 GMT Korakuen Hall Volador Jr. vs. Último Guerrero Mistico vs. Euforia Atlantis, Tanahashi, Kushida and David Finlay vs. Rush, Naito, Sanada and ”King of Darkness” Evil Máximo Sexy, Juice Robinson and Taguchi vs. Ephesto, Okada and Will Ospreay Dragón Lee and Titán vs. Hiromu Takahashi and Bushi Stuka Jr., Liger and Tiger Mask vs. Hechicero, Okumura and Raziel Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr. and Henare vs. Bárbaro Cavernario, Jado and Gedo Final Fantasticamania card starting in half an hour
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2017 10:03 |
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Reminder that the first Korakuen show of the New Beginning tour featuring the return of Suzuki-gun is tomorrow morning at 4:30 EST/9:30 GMT NJPW Road to New Beginning Janurary 27th at 4:30 EST/9:30 GMT Korakuen Hall Yuji Nagata vs. Tomoyuki Oka Jushin "Thunder" Liger, Tiger Mask, and Yoshitatsu vs. David Finlay, Henare, and Hirai Kawato CHAOS (YOSHI-HASHI, Jado, and Gedo) vs. Suzuki-gun (Takashi Iizuka, Yoshinobu Kanemaru, and El Desperado) TenCozy vs. Killer Elite Squad Katsuyori Shibata, GBH, and Juice vs. CHAOS (Goto, Ishii, YTR, and Ospreay) Tanahashi, Nakanishi, Taguchi, Elgin, and KUSHIDA vs. L.I.J (Naito, SANADA, EVIL, Hiromu, and BUSHI) CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada and RPG Vice) vs. Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki, TAKA Michinoku, and Taichi) I'd also definitely recommend checking out @reasonjp on twitter for translations of Minoru Suzuki's interview with Kidani from this morning if you haven't already
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 01:08 |
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show's on now if anyone cares
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 11:02 |
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Germ Incubator posted:Debating whether better or worse than having to watch TAICHI rip off his pants and do a terrible Gackt impression. better since he at least still has his amazing theme while NJPW World no longer has the rights to Taichi's after having it during the SJC and that was his only redeeming quality.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2017 01:47 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=838jTFJg310 NJPW is finally starting to subtitle videos which is great to see
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 18:36 |
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http://www.njpw1972.com/news/news_0127.html NJPW finally relaunched their Englishlangauge site and they have a translation of the Suzuki/Nogami interview from a few days ago (Suzuki showed up with vodka in hand if you didn't know). Good read
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