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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I didn't think anybody could be more racist than middle class American whites, until I became posting buds with a white upper class Brazilian. Uh... they're passionate folks that's for sure.

It's also interesting how the paranoid style of right wing politics in the US was embraced wholly by the reactionary right in Brazil. There's enough conspiracy theories about Dilma to make the birth certificate scandal look like child's play. My favorite being that she's a KGB agent. Yes, there's still a KGB apparently.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

I'm gonna post later but theres a Financial Times article about white southern Brazilians being recruited for the Azov Batallion in Ukraine and I don't think the US even has that poo poo.

I couldn't make sense of this until I remembered the Banderivets are causing Jews to flee Ukraine in the tens of thousands. I'm also guessing they think Russia is still communist?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

I'm at Rio for the weekend for a student council and poo poo looks serious. The current governor has been indected and arrested for being involved in some nasty poo poo and there are several protests going on because the state public workers haven't been paid for months after the Olympics+World Cup+Oil Price Drop trifecta destroyed Rio's finances. Now everyone is afraid the cops will strike/mutiny like the ones at Espirito Santo did a week ago which ended in massive riots, looting and people getting butchered in the middle of the street.

I'd buy that for a dollar!

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

qnqnx posted:

It has always been full of cuicos and momios. Source: living there most of my life.
Sitting in a McDonalds watching the old ladies cry at the news of Pinochet being dead was p. funny.

Talk about a cherished memory.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Welcome back to the Washington Consensus, friend.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

BOY OH BOY

What's happenin?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Jose posted:

why is brazil getting on austerity haven't they seen its been a disaster everywhere else?

Brazil has a very reactionary political element that's been modeling itself after the "Paranoid Style" of American right wing politics. They don't care if austerity is a proven disaster because any movement to the left is a KGB conspiracy to bring communism to Brazil. Plus they'll make loads of money when the government privatizes public services.

Plutonis posted:

Also Temer said before he was gonna renounce if he ever had charges pressed against them but he predictably chickened out now

lmao. hmm right wing heads of state refusing to let go of power after turning their countries into disaster zones it's almost like there's a pattern or something

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

We're very interested in the opinion of "War profiteers are actually good" man.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

at least look up the definitions of words before using them lol

charging excessive prizes for imported food under siege conditions is a textbook definition of war profiteering.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The best thing I'll ever say about Fallen Hamprince is that at least he's not the worst poster, lmao.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

There's no way Ukraine's is that low.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Badger of Basra posted:

I wonder why [North] Sudan and South Sudan are so different

Is this a serious question?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

Former president Lula got condemned to nine years in jail. Meanwhile most members of the Temer cabinet and congressmen allied to him that were involved with some serious graft and corruption charges had their accusations silently wiped under the rug these past few months. Also the Senate passed the new labor laws that are widely hated by everyone and will roll back rights a century. :discourse:

:thermidor:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

petit bourgeois is always reactionary

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

We're all living in very stupid times.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

Congress just voted to archive the criminal process against Temer lmfao

http://i.imgur.com/sKEvUiU.mp4

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

A hallmark of The Paranoid Style is to act like left-liberals are actually Stalin.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Nebakenezzer posted:

Because the first article on the Guardian I saw about Venezuela had the ex-mayor of London Ken Livingston saying that Chavez hosed up when he didn't straight up murder the oligarchs in Venezuela

I think then I went for a bike ride

He's not wrong.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

lollontee posted:

i dunno what to call it when someone fails at socialism

capitalism

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Nebakenezzer posted:

Disagree, imposing price controls to make basic goods cheaper and ignoring if the producers of such things can make money under price controls is not capitalism

Failing to do socialism means you're still capitalist, chump.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Wrong again, dcuck.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Byolante posted:

You say that now but we haven't had the Qatar world cup yet.

I hope the blood paste from all the construction workers buried into the foundations seeps into the ground and poisons the athletic dorms.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

get that OUT of my face posted:

fun fact: during one of the rounds to decide who would host the 2016 olympics, Doha had more votes than Rio. the IOC still eliminated Doha during that round. why? how? who knows

Well look at it this way, a lot more people would have died.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Santos is not good, but he's practically a saint compared to the American bootlicker Uribe.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

qnqnx posted:

The FARC did not deserve any pardons.

:yeah:

They deserved the whole country.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


now what do these polls look like uncucked?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Chavez basically ran a caudillo style government but one that spent money on poor people, and that's what libs think socialism is.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Furia posted:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colectivo_(Venezuela)


That is nothing praiseworthy

good if true, actually

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Frijolero posted:

I like to compare Chavez to Huey Long. Neither was a true socialist, neither was a truly good man (prone to grandiosity, corruption, and authoritarianism), but both of them actually cared about poor people and both of them INVESTED in poor people. All those bridges and roads in LA didn't build themselves. All those people in extreme poverty were/are eternally grateful that somebody stood up for them, at least for a while.

And if you look at the context behind each, they both came out of corrupt systems (and left behind corrupt systems), but they were at least able to expand suffrage to the poorest people.

The Maduro government stays afloat purely on the good will cultivated by Chavez, but it's questionable just how long that can last.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Furia posted:

Ah, the "no it's Maduro's fault!" defense

Venezuela's economy nosedived after they read your posts.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

the weird thing is its not like lula was really that bad for the rich. he was ultimately pretty drat neoliberal. yet they cant even allow his relatively modest welfare programs for the poor to the point theyre willing to risk totally delegitimizing everything and leaving the people no choice but violence, riots, revolution. how loving stupid.

They're confident that they will win.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

R. Mute posted:

p much every country has had some dullard pointing out at one point that revolutionary progress or anything other than the most tepid of changes are just not part of their national ethos. it's dumb.

The British political tradition is so bland they think getting a monarch from a different inbred bloodline was a "Glorious Revolution"

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

didn’t one of the generals threaten a coup if they don’t put Lula in prison?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

joepinetree posted:

In so many words. And then one of the courts that is handling Lula's appeal "liked" the comment, and Globo read it as a final note in their nightly news.

What a country. :allears:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Metal Cat posted:

The problem is not the justice system clamping on corrupt left-wing politicians (as long as it's reasonably proven)

Well that's the problem isn't it? I haven't been following too closely, but I'm led to believe they never produced any evidence of corruption in Lula's case.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Condolences on not getting the civil war you wanted, Plutonis.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

American reactionaries haven't quite gotten to the point where they can break kayfabe, and openly show vicious Latin American style contempt for the poor because they still need poor people to vote for them.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Jose posted:

70% is downright sensible for someone rigging an election if he did. you'd think more dictators would do that instead of always getting 95%+ of the vote

Maduro got 70% of the vote because the main opposition group boycotted the election when they could have won.

Jose posted:

yeah the US really isn't in a position to criticise any other countries elections lol

https://twitter.com/hannahdreier/status/998539490728783872

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