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Just because something is symbolic doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Even things like 'gun' or 'chair' can only be thought of as symbols.
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MAKE EARTH GREATER THAN EVER BEFORE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNlby8jiSug Ancestors PLUS
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Are there D&D Hillarymen castaways in this thread or something?
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Mar 4, 2017 04:08
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Yossarian-22 posted:Are there D&D Hillarymen castaways in this thread or something? Nah those ninnies aren't here - we cool. The real Hillarymen won't criticize Obama because *the legacy* and party unity.
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MizPiz posted:And since then, the Pakistani government has been fighting against the Taliban, with members of the military arming and training independent groups (usually tribal clans) to fight against them. The exception to that are the members of the military who are arming and training clans that are a part of or allied to the Taliban, which is why your assumption that the Pakistani government is a hegemonic force is adorable. actually the Pakistani government fights against the Taliban mostly because the US tells them to and threatened to bomb them back to the stone age if they don't. the Pakistani government knows that the US was gonna leave Afghanistan because that's what americans always do: leave after a few years, they need the Taliban and other Islamist militant groups to fight proxy wars mostly against India specially in Kashmir and in Afghanistan although sometimes they go further than that (i.e Mumbai). The reason why they backed the most fundamentalist group of Islamists is precisely because those guys will never defect over to Russia or India. So Pakistan basically fights them just enough so the US don't get too pissed but on the long run very much want to preserve those groups. Pakistan sees itself as in an eternal war against India which it can no longer match conventionally because the Indian economy is doing so much better. So it resorts to two asymmetrical weapons: Islamic militants on one hand and nuclear weapons on the other, because it's no longer capable of fighting and winning a real war against India.
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Mar 4, 2017 04:52
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rudatron posted:No they loving do not you psycopath. the only states which places equal or higher value on non-citizens as its own people are basically countries which are poor enough that a US/China/Russia/w/e citizen being killed in their country would decrease tourism enough to hurt their economy that they have to care about them more
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Typo posted:the only states which places equal or higher value on non-citizens as its own people are basically countries which are poor enough that a US/China/Russia/w/e citizen being killed in their country would decrease tourism enough to hurt their economy that they have to care about them more yikes
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The Kingfish posted:yikes "Drone (strikes) come at you fast." - Obama
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rudatron posted:Just because something is symbolic doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Even things like 'gun' or 'chair' can only be thought of as symbols. you can say a chair doesn't exist but I can still sit on it the government can say my rights don't exist and then I'm dead
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Mar 4, 2017 20:53
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typo is wrong but less wrong than most
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spacetoaster posted:Except for all the money, guns, and bombs. Yeah. Isn't the entire reason ISIS is so strong because Obama went ahead and armed and funded everyone who didn't like Assad and then they turned out to be Radical Islamic Terrorists (tm)?
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uh no they are Moderate Rebels
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Trumpenproletariat posted:Isn't the entire reason ISIS is so strong because Obama went ahead and armed and funded everyone who didn't like Assad and then they turned out to be Radical Islamic Terrorists (tm)? Obama would never use the term islamic terrorist. 
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Typo posted:the only states which places equal or higher value on non-citizens as its own people are basically countries which are poor enough that a US/China/Russia/w/e citizen being killed in their country would decrease tourism enough to hurt their economy that they have to care about them more
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rudatron posted:States are a political structure, they exist to serve the needs of actually existing human beings. If the nation-state system does not serve the interests of actual human beings, then it should be abolished and replaced with a system that can. If that's not possible, it should at least be constrained from committing atrocities. An example of such constraint would be to deny the right of 'states' to do whatever the gently caress they want to people who aren't citizens, because that's dumb. nice! 
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Trumpenproletariat posted:Isn't the entire reason ISIS is so strong because Obama went ahead and armed and funded everyone who didn't like Assad and then they turned out to be Radical Islamic Terrorists (tm)? No, but I'm sure that will be the narrative forever because only America has the power to make anyone do anything anywhere.
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obama's about to go to loving jail forever 
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spacetoaster posted:Obama had no problems with the saudis. trump would never bow
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Trumpenproletariat posted:Isn't the entire reason ISIS is so strong because Obama went ahead and armed and funded everyone who didn't like Assad and then they turned out to be Radical Islamic Terrorists (tm)? also because they got a huge chunk of manpower from people we threw in prison in the iraq war and then just left there http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/26/the-great-iraqi-jail-break/ american and russian weapons have been flowing into the middle east for decades through all sorts of vectors
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Typo posted:the funny thing is obama actually really pissed off wall street cuz he wouldn't do poo poo like have dinner or take photos with their ceos while at the same time pissing off the liberal base and the tea party by not punishing any of them for 2008 They live among us, the moderates, if what they have can be called life. You’ve probably seen them, strolling on the streets and driving in their cars and looking every bit like the human beings they aren’t; maybe you happen to be one yourself. There are (but why?) people who will go out in the evening and drink exactly one half of a bottle of wine; people who think the new Simpsons episodes are still pretty funny; people who can look at the sheer swirling insanity that surrounds us, the artificial famines and the drowning refugees and the suffocating alienation, and declare themselves to be moderate in relation to it. Things aren’t perfect, but a few tweaks here and there should set things straight: raise the top income tax bracket (but not by too much), legalise marijuana (but not any of the interesting drugs), overthrow the Assad government in Syria, casual Fridays at the office and police action against internet trolls; forge a world that’s basically the same but a little bit nicer. For those of us suffering from compulsive self-destruction, chronic back pain, vague and unexplained sexual guilt, amphetamine withdrawal, and a quiet but persistent voice in the back of our heads that regales us with a nightly lullaby about every lovely thing we’ve ever done – in other words, for those of us with a normal and healthy response to life under late capitalism – the moderates take on demoniac proportions. There’s nothing quite so revolting as another person’s happiness. In the United States prescription drugs are routinely advertised on TV: the pictures show attractive middle-aged white people taking picnics, riding bicycles, not being dead, etc., while a cheery voice quickly runs through all the drug’s potentially lethal side-effects. It would take the forbearance of a coma patient not to wish every single one of them – from dizziness and erectile dysfunction through to thrombocytopaenia, atrial fibrillation, and instant death – on these blithely fictional ghouls. The foundations of social and biological life are collapsing around them, and they ride their bikes through a verdant meadow drenched in sunlight, just so grateful to finally be rid of their osteoarthritis
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Maybe Democrats will take the way the GOP is treating Barack despite the fact that he practically kowtowed to them as proof that they should stop acting like compromise is po-Bwahahahahahahehgaspsnorthahahaha
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rudatron posted:States are a political structure, they exist to serve the needs of actually existing human beings. If the nation-state system does not serve the interests of actual human beings, then it should be abolished and replaced with a system that can. If that's not possible, it should at least be constrained from committing atrocities. An example of such constraint would be to deny the right of 'states' to do whatever the gently caress they want to people who aren't citizens, because that's dumb. states are simply outgrowth of tribes and tribalism, they exist to serve specifically groups of human beings in a world where different groups of people love to kill each other. It does not serve the needs of every single person on the planet. the alternative is of course one-world government, every attempt at establishing something like it have resulted in incredible amount of blood spilled for very disappointing results
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no one has ever tried to establish a "one world government" wtf are you talking about
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the black husserl posted:no one has ever tried to establish a "one world government" wtf are you talking about Remember that one time George Bush Sr said something about a New World Order. That was totally him signally that the Illuminati has taken over the world and to start releasing chemtrails.
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the black husserl posted:no one has ever tried to establish a "one world government" wtf are you talking about a whole lotta empires in the ancient world only stopped expanding because they failed/couldn't afford to go any further and if they hadn't fallen apart would've gleefully conquered the world as they knew it.
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Typo is one of the morons in the dumb & gay LF thread who thought he'd finally be the one to defeat Marxism with liberal logic. You're all wasting your time. Even the premise that the United States has a right to kill anyone they believe is a threat to its citizens, including all potential collateral damage - is specious. Because the vast majority of people we're bombing aren't a threat to the United States and probably were never going to be. What we're really doing is bombing people considered enemies by our "client" states.
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I thought black quarter backs were supposed to be all Jiving and juking op (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Typo is one of the morons in the dumb & gay LF thread who thought he'd finally be the one to defeat Marxism with liberal logic. lol you still not over the communism thread
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Coolness Averted posted:a whole lotta empires in the ancient world only stopped expanding because they failed/couldn't afford to go any further and if they hadn't fallen apart would've gleefully conquered the world as they knew it. or even modern ones for that matter like the nazis and the early ussr: one of the reasons why the ussr was federated is cuz lenin thought if there's more conquests like poland or revolutions they could incorporate them into the ussr as SSRs
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Typo posted:or even modern ones for that matter like the nazis and the early ussr: one of the reasons why the ussr was federated is cuz lenin thought if there's more conquests like poland or revolutions they could incorporate them into the ussr as SSRs no that's nonsense Lenin was totally faithful to the principle of self-determination* *except in cases of georgia, ukraine, poland, azerbaijan,
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Typo posted:lol you still not over the communism thread The point is that you're a sociopathic sophist and your posting is bad.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The point is that you're a sociopathic sophist and your posting is bad. *marxposter bursts into thread* "let us not forget the many extremely reactionary posts that forums user 'typo' has made in the hoxaism thread, which should be more than enough to discredit him"
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Typo posted:the funny thing is obama actually really pissed off wall street lol, whatever. Obama was bailing out wall street immediately after taking office. Like, he is literally a corporate whore. I stand by my statement that he was a great republican president.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:*marxposter bursts into thread* "let us not forget the many extremely reactionary posts that forums user 'typo' has made in the hoxaism thread, which should be more than enough to discredit him" Go away. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 08:07 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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spacetoaster posted:lol, whatever. whores can still get bad yelp reviews, I think
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Coolness Averted posted:whores can still get bad yelp reviews, I think It's just word of mouth with corporate whores.
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spacetoaster posted:lol, whatever. wasn't the bailout passed by Bush?
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Typo posted:wasn't the bailout passed by Bush? yeah obama actually didn't do anything he gets credit for Bailed out banks on bush's terms & did nothing to fix anything left iraq on Bush's terms, still in every other goddamn country Did hillary's healthcare plan and never ever sought to improve on it after it stuck Osama was actually already long dead, due to diabetes
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Vladimir Putin posted:The more I found out about the Bin Laden raid the more that I came to realize how special Obama is. The Bin Laden raid took a lot of guts because the downside risk was so great--so many things could have gone wrong including but not limited to Pakistan F-16's shooting down the helicopters or American jets shooting down Pakistani jets to defend the helos, the SEAL team taken captive, the whole SEAL team dying, a poo poo load of people dying but Bin Laden was never really there, a poo poo load of people dying but Bin Laden got away, the Seal team walked into a trap, a shitload of civilians getting killed in the operation, etc.... You're an idiot
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Typo posted:wasn't the bailout passed by Bush? Bush passed one, yes. But Obama had his very own called The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. He also bailed out GM too. Like I said. A good Republican.
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