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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:i don't really have any more polite ways to explain this. you know why Dem politicians are scared of targeting campaigns to young left-wing voters? because you dumbfucks consistently gently caress them over by not showing up to vote while the old racist grandpas watching fox news do nothing but vote vote vote every election for the worst assholes imaginable, and if you can't count on some goodwill support from your base you have to move to the center. it's not a grand conspiracy, it's not "some game theory". it's basic logic. and it never loving ends bc every 8 years its another cohort of college kids who think they know better just as the last one finally learned their lesson. look at all of these words i wont read
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For whatever reason the nazis glean all of the positive parts (by their standards) of the third Reich but forgot to finish the book and find out what happened when Nazi Germany pissed off the reds
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Aug 16, 2017 21:19
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Quidam Viator posted:I love this thread, because it's about the fact that we're adults in the richest country on Earth, and if you're not freaking out and taking serious action to preserve your loving life and not become a Trump casualty, you missed the biggest loving tell ever. It's dead obvious where Trump's America is going. i'm waiting for the eastern seaboard to flood and i get to scream IMMIGRANTS GO HOME at everyone that shittalks ohio
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Aug 24, 2017 21:32
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:the wealthier parts of the coast such as the port cities will build cities on stilts iirc SoCal already asked if we could build a water pipeline to them and we told them to gently caress off 
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Aug 24, 2017 23:25
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having read all of those words, that dude's right insofar as 4 years of trimp peeling the mask off of benevolent capitalism and neoliberal politics is good however, lol buttmad much?
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Sep 3, 2017 17:26
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:glad we've all come to the logical conclusion itt that donald j trump being president is a net good. if the socialist revolution hasn't happened by 2020 we should all give him another four years You can think trump emboldening the alt right into self owning themselves out of existence is a net good for society and still think he's a bad president without exploding He's right insofar as the right wing was getting ready for another 4 years of chud rebellion and we probably wouldve had an actually competent fascist win in 2020
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Azuth0667 posted:dnd, I've watched it happen in the climate change thread, the energy thread, the rwm thread, &c. Something is broken in these people's brains that they are not willing to take an imperfect solution to solve a huge problem now then improve upon said solution continuously. what you're talking about is actual incrementalism, which is good the suck zone version of incrementalism is immediately starting at a compromise (either out of bad faith or refusing to use the bully pulpit) and compromising again and again until almost nothing happens the second version has been used pretty consistently by the business wings of both parties to stave off any populist policy. an unintended consequence of this is the gradual erosion of belief in "the process" to the point that the entire government is the enemy to the common man, but i guess that doesn't matter too much when you're retired on your whore island (paid for by corporate donations to your campaign) at that point
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Sep 4, 2017 06:01
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you can whine about how things like Obamacare were Actually Good, but poo poo like minimum wage reform being phased in over 10 years (and still won't keep up with inflation) or means tested medicare aren't very reassuring to people that have been suffering, are currently suffering, and will continue to suffer for the duration of the program's implementation
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Sep 4, 2017 06:03
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:this is exactly the take i'd expect from the dude who thinks gerrymandering effects presidential elections special call out to the thousands of dems that talk like this and are fuckin gobsmacked that regular people don't want to put them in office, despite them having the "correct stance" on everything
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Sep 4, 2017 06:06
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Azuth0667 posted:I don't think its quite the same because a lot of it is big stuff. Like corporate speech restrictions, breaking up blatant monopolies, removing the anti-union bits of taft-hartley, changing the tax code, &c. Good incrementalism would be the CRA (iirc it was initially just making it easier for PoCs to vote and then had its scope continually expanded) Bad incrementalism would be Obamacare (your base wants single payer, but you start at the compromise of a public option, which gets cut immediately to make the insurance lobby happy) The point I'm trying to make is incrementalism towards a goal is good, but incrementalism AS a goal is very very bad
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promising his supporters wages will go up while signing a bill increasing minimum wage to 15$/hour in the year 2055.
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VitalSigns posted:Your Silent Generation dad is cool, unlike most of his generation, (source: Silents are more consistently Republican than boomers, also source my silent generation grandparents are from South Carolina and whoa doggy do they love Nixon and hate the blacks and Mexicans) my silent generation dad was a IWW member, helped liberate italy from fascism, and got blacklisted from trying to organize his workplace 
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Sep 5, 2017 03:47
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:this is a good chart to summarize why the old guard elected democrats are so reluctant to champion single payer and higher minimum wage-- it's not corruption, it's fear born of decades of republican rule. factor in all the ways young and minority voters get disenfranchised and have lower turnout in general, and it's not that hard to understand the continued hesitancy. some consistent wins by younger progressive candidates would do wonders for bringing the rest around IMO is "they're not corrupt, they're totally spineless and put party politics over country" supposed to make me feel better? edit: if we need to beat some of them with progressive candidates anyways, why don't we just get rid of all of them? sounds like keeping a bunch of spineless centrists around who apparently buckle at the slightest amount of resistance is bad for fights that will happen when said progressive candidates start pushing for anti-corporate policy Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 13:19 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Potato Salad posted:Bear in mind that baby-with-bathwater center-left vs socialist infighting is literally how whiplash conservative nationalists turned a minority of seats into absolute power in early Nazi Germany. Godwin's Law has been temporarily suspended by Mike Godwin. missing from this story: the german centrists giving hitler the chancellorship in a coalition so the communists couldn't take power
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Sep 8, 2017 01:42
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The trump voters in Florida will be fine. Rick Scott made it illegal to say climate change and if you don't say the words it can't hurt you
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Sep 8, 2017 23:26
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Grassy Knowles posted:‘Gen-X,’ and every other ‘Generation’ is bullshit. They’re meaningless distinctions with no consensus over definition which allows anyone to skew them to whatever suits the point they’re trying to make at the time. i mean previously sure but there's distinct differences between the people that grew up without computers, the people that grew up without cell phones, and the people that grew up with both computers and cell phones
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Sep 10, 2017 15:19
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if only there was some way to quickly and conveniently group people by what technological and political events happened during their childhoods
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Sep 10, 2017 15:32
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having been to the clinton presidential library i'm pretty sure there's no difference between a presidential library and a mastaba
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Sep 10, 2017 17:15
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My friend's CHUD evangelical wife now has mold growing in her lungs because the poor, urban public school she works at couldn't afford to do remodelling
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Sep 14, 2017 13:35
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Epic High Five posted:lol She complains about having to come to the school early so the poor kids can have breakfast so yeah probably
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Sep 14, 2017 20:00
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Badger of Basra posted:can i put this here This is the platonic ideal of boomers.txt "Oh I think the world is dying better put literal doomsayers into office"
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Sep 27, 2017 13:09
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:caitlyn again we need to have a strong resistance to trump! *people start asking for healthcare and higher wages* no not that
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Oct 14, 2017 01:53
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:actually the opioid crisis is fake news spread by deep state obama holdouts to keep decent hard working white americans in excruciating chronic pain aka their daily existence i was at the ohio democrat gubernatorial debate yesterday and the first question involved millennials downloading an app so the state can get real time data on rural overdoses (i'm not kidding)
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Oct 30, 2017 13:36
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VitalSigns posted:The headline makes them sound like dumby dumb dumbs, but if you actually read the article there aren't any jobs in the area hiring for what the federal government wants to train these ex-miners to do, so from their standpoint they are acting rationally because it actually is a waste of time. If you want to give these miners shiny new non-polluting jobs then you have to actually give them shiny new non-polluting jobs, not just put them in training while they starve waiting for someone else to eventually decide that there are enough economic incentives to open a tech company in Buttfuck County WV someday, maybe. its almost like these retraining classes are bullshit and everyone knows it 
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"why is our reality tv show president such a messy bitch?"
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Jan 7, 2018 18:34
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Samovar posted:Gee, I didn't think that cracking down on immigrants meant cracking down on people in our community which now means our local industries don't have the labour pools required to function. Duhhhh. i got to listen to a lobbyist for farm groups gripe about how they can't find anyone to work 16 hour days for $11/hour i asked them why would someone gently caress up their back and destroy their bodies for $11/hour when they can vegetate at a call center for $10. the conversation changed pretty quickly after that
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Willie Tomg posted:so what'd he say? "call centers don't exist out here so we're the best they got" and she did a pivot
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Who retweets porn?
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Mar 7, 2018 21:23
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Kurtofan posted:is jeb short for jebediah jeb is like GOB from arrested development, its short for john elliot bush or something like that
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Mar 28, 2018 12:28
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"We need a strong president who will put America First!" "No not like that"
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Duscat posted:all this volatility is killing my day trading career I remember reading something about how day traders hooted and hollered about automation until they realized their jobs were getting automated too It was incredibly 
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Philthy posted:They were expecting local guaranteed IT jobs. In the middle of loving nowhere. Literally "why aren't these rubes buying this snake oil?"
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Apr 15, 2018 21:34
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Say what you want about trump, but at least he made the poop trains run on time
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Apr 21, 2018 13:41
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A ghost ship full of mutated sailors who ate nothing but soybeans for years is a pretty good video game level
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May 5, 2018 13:54
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That game about the plant zombies but instead of fungus human hybrids everyone has rockin tits and bleeds soy sauce
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May 5, 2018 13:55
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The guys who made their livelihoods abusing immigrants getting exactly what they voted for is the reason I come to this thread
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May 10, 2018 23:49
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tbh boomers letting their businesses die because they refuse to reduce their jet ski budget it pretty par for the course
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May 11, 2018 02:00
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its almost as funny as when they realize their half a million dollar mcmansions 60 miles away from the city (and the black people in them) don't have any fuckin value if nobody wants to buy them
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May 11, 2018 02:00
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Krankenstyle posted:lol american workers don't have labor rights Mostly true but a farm owner raping a bunch of his female workers would go over a lot worse if they were Americans (or worse yet, white)
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May 11, 2018 12:12
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Epic High Five posted:This is also what always gets me about the mass automation of food service If you use fast food kiosks or self checkouts you're no better than a scab imo
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"I didn't know that they would deport MY underpaid workers", said local man who voted for the Deport Underpaid Workers Party
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