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Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

BUSH 2112 posted:

meh, making fun of these people doesn't make someone an rear end in a top hat. it's possible to feel bad for people's self-inflicted misfortunes and hope for the best for them, while still laughing at their terrible judgment because a literal child could tell that trump would be a terrible president.

I have a lot of friends who are grade school teachers. One day one of them started sending me snaps of some writing exercise to the presidential candidates.

Every single one of them read along the lines of "dear mr trump please become president and build the wall and keep all the illegals out or we'll be doomed"

Come to think of it I don't think I've ever met an inherently liberal/smart kid.

Jedi Knight Luigi has issued a correction as of 15:24 on Feb 5, 2017

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Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Agean90 posted:

most kids just have the same politics as their parents, if your in a deep red area this isn't surprising

The kids in question live:
Northern Illinois
Denver area
Minneapolis area

Get ready for another generation of uncritical thinkers.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Business Gorillas posted:

I mean I don't think that gauging political ideologies in the second grade is a good idea but then again I've been trying to become a velociraptor for years

My dude I highly doubt growing up in he 90s will be anything like growing up today. These kids are using iPhones practically in the cradle, like, not even hand-me-down Razr flip phones.

But it's nice that you're hopeful.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

newsflash, the suburbs are filled with upper middle class white republicans who are scared of brown ppl

You might as well be posting "newsflash politics don't matter and the rich will always rule"

Unless Bernie is made head of FEMA and relocates all white suburbanites to the nearest city center.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

lol, looks like sometimes in life you need to make more than one compromise! our president thanks you for your principled stand tho

A lot if not the vast majority of Sanders die-hards voted Clinton.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

zegermans posted:

How did a cracker barrel restaurant learn to use SA

I too have come across many Cracker Barrels full of Hillary-votin' brocialists.

Not saying I agree with him but your analogy makes no sense.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

It's going to be really strange over the next couple of years to see the cycle repeat: the racism of cutting welfare, the realization of their own welfare being included, the rage at their ideas of white supremacy being neutered because skin color is just a way of Republicans having the poor eliminate themselves, and then a bunch of people going into white supremacy because their parents died poor and destitute while 'all of those <insert slur here> are riding around in their Caddies while my good, honest, hardworking parents died!' While ignoring that their parents were on government programs their politics eliminated out of racism, but never mind that.

In a way, it is a beautiful scam: you take people who treasure ignorance and you trap them in a cycle where they have no way out of it because they would have to go against that same everpresent ignorance. I mean eventually it will burn itself out but not before we get a lot of tearful speeches that are basically idiots cutting off their own nose to spite their face but can't see it because their entire worldview, from religion to politics, is basically so racist that they would end themselves instead of question it.

I must hand it to Republicans: their hatred is something to behold. They're ugly human beings who don't deserve human rights, but holy poo poo do they plan well.

Republicans who make more than $50,000/year don't care about social welfare programs, and they tend to vote more often than poor people of any ideology. I think the left hasn't figured out that there are simply many more middle-class conservatives who just don't wanna pay taxes for a more robust social welfare system than they think there are. Why should they? They have insurance with their job already.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The Left has, libs haven't. It's infuriating that every piece of data showing that Trump's real support base was in the middle classes still hasn't sunk in to the Democratic mindset. They'd still rather chase suburban Republican moms than court the poor.

Let's talk about the title of this thread then. Is it even relevant? I feel like the news likes to tout these one-off stories centered on poor Trump voters, but there are millions of conservatives out there who are far and away not in the same economic state of existence. And they seem almost divinely immune to Overton windows and "pendulums". Even pro-life Democrats like Heath Mello can't martial their votes.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Al! posted:

if he survives the first artillery barrage that is

one of my family friends (pseudo-cousin if you will) is a commissioned officer in the Army and super pro trump. He was stationed in Korea like all last year.

One night he awoke to a very loud BANG sound, which he thought was an artillery strike. He lied in his cot for a minute hoping for a swift death, because the place was estimated to sustain over 90% casualties if a barrage from the North were to commence. Turns out it was just a blown electric generator.

He can't wait to go back!

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

hm actually i'll just keep living in the Liberal Havens and, since I make a bunch of money, not deal with the consequences of any of this. And, if for whatever reason I stop making a bunch of money, I'll just kill myself. Bing bing bong, so simple.

Right?

Here's a dose of realpolitik: two of my cousins (conservative) already have like 5 kids each, and they're not slowing down (pretty sure they're tacit quiverfulls). I'm probably the only left-leaning person in my extended family, and my wife and I don't plan on having kids anytime soon.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Al! posted:

wait pizza shops dont get commercial insurance for their delivery drivers!?!?!?!??!

Nope. You have to cover yourself. No one does this though and just lies if they get an accident. "I was driving home from the mall."

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

ikanreed posted:

My position isn't between those positions at all. I view both as pointedly naive about complex causes reducing them to simplistic absolutes.

White racist shits who view politics as a zero sum game and abhor upholding the principles they claim to value exist. People who turn to scapegoats for their real problems exist. People who indulge in a bit of both exist. People who buy right wing media narratives about how racism is made up because they're innundated in propoganda exist. Single issue voters who look over the Republicans' vile beliefs about other things exist.

gently caress reductionism

Please continue speaking truth to power.

Coming from a religiously conservative private school that last one is the most egregious. Hundreds if not thousands of first time voters (majority of them girls actually) expressing their choice of Trump simply because he’s in the “pro-life” party.

Meanwhile Heath Mello gets thrown under the bus for the crime of being a Catholic democrat.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

ScrubLeague posted:

lmao, this guy's company doesn't actually fuckin do anything with American labor. He manufactures the poo poo in China by slaves, ships it here where he wipes it down and puts it in a new box. His company absolutely should go under.

it’s a woman who inherited it from her GM boss dad. as someone said earlier it’s consultants and cronies all the way down.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Kurtofan posted:

italian americans why

I was just gonna say, not surprised that guys last name ends in a vowel :laugh:

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

This smiley was a long time coming.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Zeroisanumber posted:

I have friends who want me to go to work in Germany with them but I've been resisting moving all the way to Europe. But if another 9/11 popped of I'd be over there tomorrow.

I always wonder how people do this without marrying. Are you dating these friends? Tourist visas are 3 months max.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
democracy was a mistake

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Skellybones posted:

It's vital for minority representation that states like Wyoming with the combined population of a single large town has the same legislative power as, say, California.

and Puerto Rico has almost 6x the population of Wyoming 😂

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Ocrassus posted:

No no it's quite alright old chap. :britain: Time for this dead, gay island to finally sink into the sea, toodle-pip!

GET ME OUT OF HERE!! :kingsley:

Couldn’t you move to Canada or some other old dominion? I know Canadians can work in he UK without having to jump through many hoops, so the reverse must be true.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

jBrereton posted:

Don't be a settler.

Listen I'm more than willing to give up my apartment in Minneapolis to some native americans if Norway will extend their jus sanguinis laws back a couple generations.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
we were just talking ancestry. Realistically the EU isn’t letting any of us honkies in unless we marry one of them.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
of course not! we are fantasizing!!!!!!

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

literally all of these people are asking for things Bernie would have worked on.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

hobbesmaster posted:

/ɔ/




( the “ough” in “thought )

I don’t think that’s right. Isn’t it more of a straight “oh” sound? Or is that just Norwegian bokmål?

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Avirosb posted:

Kamelåså

You just bought ten cartons of milk from me.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

campfire posted:

this is one depressing rear end thread

doomsday economics thread is worse and more wide-ranging so no one feels left out.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So Trump is set to sign a law banning bump stocks

https://mobile.twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1067985270304194561

And people are losing their goddamn minds

that slippery slope is as flat as the plains of eastern Colorado

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
What if the waiter is already Christian? Can they run them down in the parking lot and say "So can I have actual money now?"

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
Thou shalt not murder tho!

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
*me, a serious reporter*
Some folks on a comedy forum are discussing your impending death by guillotine unless you voluntarily distribute your wealth. they go by such names as “comedy bliss option” and “cuntman.net”—do you at all feel threatened by these notions?

*the billionaire I’m interviewing crosses legs, steeples fingers*
I think you just answered your own question.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Truga posted:

see, i'm right with you up to redistribute it. the billionaire class is free to divest of their wealth and resources at any time and probably save themselves, even at this late stage in the game.

i'm also going to be extremely looking away when they get horribly murdered by the people who are far enough gone to do that. for many of us, especially in the western world, this poo poo isn't even terribly personal. i live a relatively comfortable life, even though i'm by all means a dirty prole, but i'll exert the exact same amount of effort protecting the elites from getting slaughtered as they do to protect the proles, lol

also, in a couple more years of complete climate change inaction, we'll probably be seeing shitloads more people who are too far gone, so please look forward to that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxBVc2cSFeI
:v:

Apparently some of the people on this very site think they’re just too far gone enough to do it! :twisted:

My question is, what are they waiting for?

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Gringostar posted:

you, a loving moron: we don't need to kill people

me, a stable genius: the only time manmade climate change has been reversed is when a massive portion of humanity was killed off

starting with the rich who have overwhelming benefited from loving up the environment is just good praxis

What are you waiting for? Get out there and make it happen.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
Seriously what is everyone waiting for?

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

CharlestheHammer posted:

I mean do you think you can just walk up and kill all the rich.

it umm isn’t that easy. I know what your trying to do but you didn’t think this own through.

Didn’t realize I was trying to own ppl but thank you for the compliment..?

e: and why isn’t it easy? People give their lives to scratch the beast every day. Looks easy enough to me.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

Imagine saying"we should topple the government and kill the rich" but not having the conviction to do it. Cowards, the whole lot.

:hai:

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

VitalSigns posted:

Nothing to do with the libs literally voting for a Hitler dictatorship in the form of the Enabling Act right, commies made them do it.

Also the reformist Social Democrats (a) used right-wing militias to murder the communists and anarchists after the Great War, but sure it's the radical left's fault those right-wingers turned around and took over the country yeah, and (b) the Social Democrats campaigned for Heisenberg because he was a deeply concerned :decorum: conservative and not a commie, but it's the commies' fault that Heisenberg named Hitler chancellor right.

So is the reason no one is out lynching billionaires right now is because they're scared they might get killed (by democrats, republicans, whoever) doing it? Forums user Serf, how are your bread and circuses going these days? Or are you not that far gone yet?

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
Again I'm not trying to own people I'm trying to find out where that line actually is. And that's gonna be subjective from person to person.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Serf posted:

haha wtf

Let me rephrase: when exactly will you, as your gang tag says, start killing people?

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
*in a second-grade classroom*

Ok class let's go over the 5 W's:

"What?"
*Killing!

"Where?"
*Everywhere you can!

"Who?"
*The 1% (%1 if you're a young turk hehe)

"Why?"
*We are suffering needlessly!

"When?"
*(nervous cough)

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Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
Seriously, what is everyone's IRL line before they start literally killing people? This is an honest question that I understand will have different answers.

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