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Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

This is an idiotic reaction to a phenomenon of mass ignorance. You should be reaching out to these people and trying to educate them as a basis for forming a real mass politics. They obviously didn't decide they don't want healthcare, or else they wouldn't express the fear that they're gonna lose it. They thought Trump was going to replace the ACA with a better healthcare system, which is what he actually said. They didn't think he'd try to wipe it all out in one fell swoop without an alternative plan. That makes them idiotic rubes, not maliciously self-destructive psychopaths. This has always been a country of rubes and con men, and you can't blame people for their gross ignorance when the system is built up to keep them that way.

All you're doing here is demonstrating why people can still have so much contempt for Liberals, even in spite of Trump voters. You're no less petty or spiteful, and your politics are garbage.
To be honest, "Wow, Trump really betrayed the American people by repealing the ACA without a replacement" feels like saying "Oh my, I had no idea that huffing paint kills brain cells," but after reading that AMA about someone's WWII Axis grandpa and similar stories, this is the most likely narrative they're going to accept.

"Wow, Hitler really betrayed the german people" is what many of them walked away from WWII with, if they weren't executed or avoided starvation. I don't have much hope for the fools this time.

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Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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No sympathy
California Farmers Backed Trump, but Now Fear Losing Field Workers

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Jeff Marchini and others in the Central Valley here bet their farms on the election of Donald J. Trump. His message of reducing regulations and taxes appealed to this Republican stronghold, one of Mr. Trump’s strongest bases of support in the state.

As for his promises about cracking down on illegal immigrants, many assumed Mr. Trump’s pledges were mostly just talk. But two weeks into his administration, Mr. Trump has signed executive orders that have upended the country’s immigration laws. Now farmers here are deeply alarmed about what the new policies could mean for their workers, most of whom are unauthorized, and the businesses that depend on them.

“Everything’s coming so quickly,” Mr. Marchini said. “We’re not loading people into buses or deporting them, that’s not happening yet.” As he looked out over a crew of workers bent over as they rifled through muddy leaves to find purple heads of radicchio, he said that as a businessman, Mr. Trump would know that farmers had invested millions of dollars into produce that is growing right now, and that not being able to pick and sell those crops would represent huge losses for the state economy. “I’m confident that he can grasp the magnitude and the anxiety of what’s happening now.”

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Farmers are also anxiously awaiting the administration’s plans to alter longstanding trade agreements. Mr. Trump has said he will pull out of the North American Free Trade Agreement if he cannot negotiate better terms for the United States. Growers would benefit if Mr. Trump negotiated more favorable terms. But backing out of the agreement entirely could provoke retaliation from Mexico that would hurt California’s agricultural industry, which earned $21 billion from trade last year.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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They have an uncommon virtue of always seeing the best in people.

I mean "in white people," sorry.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Trump looked me directly in the eye and said "I will make all your dreams come true"

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Azathoth posted:

Normally, the problem with these voters is that they don't have realistic expectations of what government can and cannot do for them, so they tend to get disillusioned really easily. I don't ever recall seeing a political party get power then quite so brazenly put out a legislative agenda that objectively fucks over quite such a wide swath of their supporters, so we're basically sailing into uncharted political waters with this.
I kinda feel like Trump voters will be very tolerant of him loving them over because a number of them really hate themselves and feel like they deserve to be crushed under the boot of the business men who are superior to them. This is what happens when they idolize the working class and self sufficiency when they, themselves, are on disability and need government programs to survive. They'll be very vocal in their hatred of others with lives like this, but they'll keep their self hated inside and accept when the people they voted into office destroy their lives because they feel they deserve it.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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HorseRenoir posted:

Every time I try to feel sad for these people I remember that they wanted these things to happen to everyone except themselves and I just go "haha nevermind"
Everybody wants to go to the Colosseum, but nobody wants to get eaten by the lions. :munch:

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Crossposting
But maybe this is inappropriate since this Trump voter is realizing they're going to die in Mexico.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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VitalSigns posted:

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion says, "These frogs, they're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. There's a lot of bad froggies out there and I'm going to round them up and sting them to death."

"I'm a good froggy, anyone can see that," the frog reasons to himself, "if the scorpion stings frogs on a more individual basis, I might even benefit from this!" So the scorpion jumps on his back, and immediately starts stinging the frog. He stings him and stings him. Blood frothing from his lips, the frog croaks "nobody expected the scorpion do this, and I still support him," but with his dying breath the frog admits it was all Obama's fault anyway.

And then the frog's family all scramble over each other to be the next to carry the scorpion.
Good, good...

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Potato Salad posted:

gently caress 'em.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAwpVJ7ZSTA&t=85s

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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It's amazing the amount of "I had no idea the leopards would eat MY face!" surrounding Trump, almost as if he surrounds himself with narcissists with poor critical thinking.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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No way, we just got a great deal on a whole shipment of...HIV bags?!? :monocle:

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Blargh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h0IpjnByfs

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Mirthless posted:

because there's always a small group of every disadvantaged minority that convinces themselves they're "the good ones" and the ruling class isn't talking about them
"I'm sure once the boss finds out about what's happening to me, he'll fix this." - Every useful idiot

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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News coverage needs to stop with the interviews with old white retirees in diners and asking MAGA chuds what Trump could possibly do to lose their support and just start turning into this thread, where we bring up more and more humiliating (hypothetical) situations where Trump would destroy their lives completely and then get them to admit they would take it like a bitch and still vote for him.

Would Trump lose your support if his tariffs create a trade war that results in you losing your job?
Would you still support Trump if he cut the social programs you depend on and your family died of starvation?
Would you still support Trump if your spouse was abducted by ICE agents for ordering at Chipolte and you never heard from or saw them again?
Would Trump lose your support if he confused diabetes with some drug addiction and made insulin illegal to produce or sell?
Would Trump lose your support if your daughter died in botched back alley abortion after he shutdown Planned Parenthood and it came out that he, himself, had paid for several abortions to porn stars he raw dogged?
Would Trump lose your support if he poo poo in your face? Not "on," "in."
Would you still support Trump if he pushed you into oncoming traffic because he was in a rush to take a big McDonald's poo poo?

And then just break out into mocking laughter every time, because nothing will stop them from being a born sucker.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Nothing bad that happens to them will sway them because they just have so much confidence in Trump. They can't explain it, like he's a confidence man.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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clockworx posted:

I was thinking more that this guy seems to think he's going to call his personal friend, The President of the United States, and he'll sort out this whole misunderstanding.
So many of these people are "Just wait til Stalin hears that you've put me in this gulag, I'm sure he'll correct this" over and over again it's adorable

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Kit Walker posted:

Even if alpha strongman tactics somehow worked, it’s hilarious that they think TRUMP of all people can pull it off. Dude acts like a whiny, petulant pissbaby on a good day and the only reason anyone has ever given a gently caress about him up to this point is that he’s (allegedly) rich. On the stage of international relationships, no world leader gives a gently caress about your personal wealth
Remember when Trump said he could get the pharmaceutical companies to voluntarily drop their prices just by asking them to? LOL

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Imagine if these people could show the same kind of loyalty to someone who even partially deserved it instead of the selfish spoiled cheeto man who is surely going to ruin their lives.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Is Trump going to pardon or execute Assange?

Trump is going to execute and then pardon Assange.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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“I said Trump was insulting Mexicans in general but he said he just talks a lot. Then when Trump released his executive orders I was mad at him. He just said he never thought it would come to this,” she said.
For they were just words, and it is known that words mean nothing.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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pushpins posted:

Lets not forget dads posing with their daughter threatening their prome date with a gun
Personal fav is the dad who's way more into his daughter's BF than she is. It is a unique but exquisite taste :discourse:

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Next Trump rally he's going to be like, "We've got a special surprise for you tonight. Something you haven't seen in a long while but I, alone, have brought back. Yep, another promise kept. A lot of people have been talking about it with great excitement. Here it is, Beautiful! Clean! Asbestos!" and it's going to drop from the ceiling and cover everyone as they clap and cheer.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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"Cost is the problem with health care, you say? HOLY PENIS what a scoop!"

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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https://twitter.com/MichelleDay99/status/887427964870242304

https://twitter.com/MichelleDay99/status/858182774796292096

Suspect, but always a statistical possibility this is a real person

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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LOL after the surprise election win they really believed he was magic. (He certainly is a very special boy, but not like that.)

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Tiler Kiwi posted:

i enjoy that massive fraud was practiced by lenders using backdating and robo signing and the collective legal response was to go "ha ha ha you scamps, don't worry we'll foreclose on everyone anyways, who cares about procedure after all"
And now the sequel with "ohohoho, we held elections who cares if they were accurate or we even acknowledge the results, the appearance of procedure was followed and that's all that matters"

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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mcvey posted:

The FBI got called for stupid LF bullshit, surely this leads to something like that right?
DHS admitted they don't know how to deal with domestic terrorism, so they're going to stick with what they know: crushing leftists groups and brutalizing minorities.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Farmer: "Instead of selling it to the city, I'm just going to eat all this soy and burn it to heat my house and inject it and hope it works like insulin."
Trucker: "Instead of driving food to the city, I'm just going to pull over and OD"

Your move, libs

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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I don't remember the Cumberbatch version of Assange being a favorable perspective of him. The protagonist is clearly Daniel Domscheit-Berg and the climax is him realizing that Assange isn't trustworthy and rushing to block him from their servers. (Also randomly bringing up his cult background and implying his hair dye is some sort of ritual from that)

I mean, Assange and his fans certainly didn't see it as favorable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9YrH8FyWs0

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Al! posted:

did the assange movie cover the rapes he did which are the reason he went into the embassy in the first place?????
It showed him having some hanky panky then cut away just so they can acknowledge it at the end but without having to make any kind of stance on it. Honestly it's a very dull, substance-less movie.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Shear Modulus posted:

lmao holy poo poo

theyre really going with space lasers for the wildfires
Trump warned them about space, dude. It's big.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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I pray to Allah this is some kind of art project

https://twitter.com/worldprinceii/status/1065769706609614848

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Did firing him free up money for the office to get coffee? Did they literally trade him for beans?!

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Waited for the Nuremberg trials to make my defiant declaration against the death penalty

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Is there any chance these people actually stay home next year?

They weren’t thinking about economics when they voted for him last time.
By 2020 they'll have another year without receiving a return lol

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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exploded mummy posted:

on Tuesday he did a live on air AMA after his show was over with Paul Joseph Watson and he is way drunker than ever and also weirdly introspective at times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVq7r69DZU

also just skip to about 48 minutes in and realize that Paul Joseph Watson then announced on Wednesday that he was leaving Infowars to make his own conspiracy site
Did he hurt his arm jerking off?

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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bird with big dick posted:

SNAP only subsidizes lobster and tobacco farmers from what I’ve heard from my totally not racial uncle
Grocier: A SNAP card?! <colored lights start flashing, confetti falls from ceiling> Right to the front of the line, my friend. Are you sure your basket is full enou--HEY <pushes elderly veteran off his crutch> WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT COMING BACK HERE? <turns back> Oh, and don't forget your complimentary filet mignon!

This is what Trump actually believes

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Me, 2019: Not $1 more for your racist border wall!
Me, 2039: Build the Wall on the Mason-Dixon Line!

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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Stay out of rural NY

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Knight
Dec 23, 2000

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chitoryu12 posted:

I've heard she's last in her class, which shouldn't be surprising.

She's about 30 now and has never actually finished school in any way or started a serious job. She's basically been a permanent student coasting from major to major.
There's a significant portion of women home-schooled in a fundamentalist environment who turn to nursing programs and med school because it's one of the only professions that is viewed as valid for women to take outside of the home. As long as your family/community doesn't go so far as to claim that all medicine is heresy to the faithful, they're seen as doing good in the world as healers and safely working in positions under male authority (maybe a future husband?). And if doesn't hurt to feel superior to dirty heathens and fetishize their pain while you're doing it.

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