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silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Seems like someone made a lovely generic retrogame knockoff as a joke but as far as the trailer indicates it also seems to be a lovely generic retrogame knockoff for serious.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1066260/Devolver_Bootleg/





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silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Canopus250 posted:

I'm not sure if you are posting that ironically or not, but it's by the studio that made/published all the games they are parodying in the pack. So I'm guessing it looking like a discount ripoff is intentional.

A low effort cash-grab is not a low effort cash-grab when a publisher sells a fake-bootleg knockoff of their own IP, got it.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Canopus250 posted:

That's not remotely what I said, but I suppose I had the benefit of seeing Giant Bomb stream the games so I knew what they were. The Gungeon one honestly looks better to me than the real game, Ape Out Jr. is a great throwback with actual mechanics, and PikuBiku is dumb fun.

Then yeah we're definitely talking about two different things because I said the trailer (and the rest of the steam store page) give the impression of it being generic trash.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

King Vidiot posted:

So you didn't think a joke was funny, then you had to keep defending your position on how... you didn't think a joke was funny. Cool.

My intent is irrelevant in this apparent failure of communication, so how about we declare this one my loss and move on to something a little easier to convey.




"What do you get when you take an uninspired Slay the Spire clone and add Darkest Dungeon visual presentation, then divide by anime?" This:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1054550/Phantom_Rose/





silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Lunatic Sledge posted:

it's not the "games you dislike based on a kneejerk reaction" thread

devolver bootleg rules, phantom rose looks like one of the better dream quest slay-the-spire-likes (and there's a bunch)

lmao, never said devolver bootleg is a bad game. I said that superficially it looks like and is advertised like something designed with this thread as a goal.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Man modern anime (and anime game) settings are just a series of checkboxes now

X - High school setting
X - Undead
X - Teenage girl with guns
X - Lineup of characters that is more a variety selection of boob sizes than anything else
_ - An original idea that might possibly risk not selling to their tiny, assured audience

I mean the game doesn't look terrible, but the aggressive genericness of everything anime these days is just... Blah.

Yeah but it takes creative ability to escape the animegame curse, when instead the dev could just use genre trappings and tropespam to cover up a lack of depth or originality. Also the difference in time/resources/personnel can be a minor factor when someone is trying to make money.

silentsnack fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jul 9, 2019

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

CharlestheHammer posted:

You very rarely have unique characters and settings you just don’t go looking for the sheer amount of generic fantasy settings and tropes out there.

The Japanese didn’t invent the idea of stock characters. Companies are going to always chase trends if it’s not schools it will be something else

Yeah prefab archetypes have been around since Lord Satan of Antarctica invented literature in -1302.159, and they serve a purpose. The difference is how they're used.

Building a coherent readily-understandable narrative without novel-length textdumps for world building and hours of cutscenes to establish characters/plot, conveying information without having to spell out every detail or explicitly tell the audience what they're supposed to think: good use case.

Filling the list of standard cliches the audience expects because the author assumes their target audience are undiscerning idiots and/or only buy games where they'll get to see a tit: not so good.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Also there's a significant difference between "anime" art style and associated media, vs the endless deluge of shovelware steam games with the "anime" tag, vs the "anime is (intrinsically) bad" internet meme, etc.

It isn't always immediately apparent which one someone is referring to.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Also wow Steam REALLY just doesn't care about moderating the store anymore. The visual novel on the #1 New and Trending spot has screenshots of full-on nudity, and then one of an anime anus

Valve has done all the moderation they deem necessary since the game is flagged as porn, so it won't show up at all unless you have the option to see porn games enabled. It's rare for something to get the 'adults only' notation just for violence/gore so that checkbox basically only toggles porn.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Using the "New releases under $5" category is probably cheating but it does provide some real winners like this one: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1100970/Dancing_Girl/ (:nws:)

quote:

ABOUT THIS GAME
Story Background
A college girl classmate secretly invited me to a hotel. She asked me to help to deal with a dancer, so her sister would win the competition.

Gameplay
Throw rubber balls at sexy hot dancing girl
Press the space button to follow the music rhythm

Features
* Realistic style of the picture has a strong sense of substitution
* Novelty and Unique Play
* Cute, sexy girl
* Exquisite hot dance
* Dynamic music

MATURE CONTENT DESCRIPTION
The developers describe the content like this:
This game contains sexy girls, seductive dances, sexual suggestive clothing and places.
It does not contain naked girls, extreme violence, sexual assault/non-consensual sex, drug/alcohol abuse, or self-harm.
All characters are over 18 years old.

...which they're also selling bundled with a reskin of the exact same game released ~6 months prior, in case you are extra brain-damaged and/or shopping while exceedingly intoxicated. Bonus for having an even more nonsensical description inexplicably referencing an actual person who may not want to be associated with hornygames (besides skyrim, of course)

quote:

(...) When the famous violinist Lindsey Stirling played her violin in the New York subway, no one passing had stopped. However it's not because the audience couldn't understand the music! Rather, it's because beautiful musics needs a bit of foil. Energetic beautiful girls, brisk dance moves, good expressions, warm and quiet environment, These all greatly enhance the experience of listening to music! (...)

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

SirSamVimes posted:

Don't they not even need an 18 patch due to the opt in adult only tag?

The only time they need a patch is if the base version is censored for whichever reason that also prevents including both versions of the images with a "show uncensored catdicks/etc" option in the game config. Which is basically when the dev uses the laziest workaround for censorship/export laws.


e: correction, also maybe to sell an edited version targeting "all ages" or "mature" because a lot of vendors won't consider AO games but will sell a downgraded M, and some customers similarly wouldn't buy them... but keeping a way to include whatever material the creator feels necessary to add.

silentsnack fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jul 25, 2019

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Wonder what research they did that led to the conclusion "we need to connect to the bitcoin dipshits in the audience by having a protagonist that shares their delusions of relevance"

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

If you want to buy someone Yet Another Generic Zombie Shooter as a joke, here's one currently on sale for $0.51

quote:

Task is to Survive - Is a first person shooter. You play as a soldier and you were sent by helicopter to the infected object in which there are a huge number of dangerous zombies. Do you have a special mission - to kill as many zombies before the time, until you die!
Your time has come! Are you ready or not?

Key features:
- 4 types of weapons.
- Randomly dropping by parachute ammunition and health kits.
- Achievements

Motherland will not forget you!





e: link because the trailer is impressive in its own way.

silentsnack fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Aug 10, 2019

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Hemingway To Go! posted:

worth looking at the trailer.
premise is alchemist has dying daughter he MUST SAVE AT ALL COSTS, trailer shows you creating "homoculi" that resemble weird ugly dolls.
They actually look like background undertale characters, really.
But then you "raise" them and it gives you what seem like detailed stories of their "childhoods" with you. And then TO SAVE YOUR DAUGHTER you kill them, each with a special bloody cutscene, and take their souls.

So it's kind of like an entire game out of the Undertale Genocide run except nothing fights back, you are an abusive parent. The childhood stories and bloody sacrifice scenes actually make it seem really creepy in a bad way to me, even if it does not contain any actual lurid content. Basically it still flies under a metric of what should or should not be in a store front, I guess, it's not Hatred or those horrible visual novels or an asset flip, but I hate it.

One thing they got right was choosing to imitate Don't Starve for making a cutesy mad science horror-management game.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Shoehead posted:

From the tiny amount of English available it looks like the dlc is various amounts of paid currency. For what looks like an rpgmaker game :eek:

Edit oh wait that's what you meant by in game items. I just woke up :sweatdrop:
There's a difference between in-game items like a pay2win+1 sword or a hat shaped like a sailboat, vs selling bundles of in-game currency to buy the upgrades you need to complete the game.


Google translate mangles the description into gibberish but it looks like the designers intentionally designed the game to take 300+ hours of mandatory grinding to see all the content, with an option to waste money instead of time? I can think of a much more efficient way of declaring "nah gently caress that"


Bonus lol that the dev updated the steampage lede to tell players to stop modding/cheating.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

The Bee posted:

At this point, what would be the best way to really innovate on a kart racer?

Alternate VR input peripheral that uses the movements of your rear end to shift your vehicle's center-of-mass for cornering/friction control. IoT Teledildonics Vulnerabilities optional.

silentsnack fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Nov 7, 2019

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.



With a title like that, you can be sure it's a cool game for sane people.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Zetsubou-san posted:

oof, humble really scraping the bottom of the barrel now

One man's "scraping the barrel" is another's "time to start drilling" because someone will inevitably make a worse tiddygame.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

kirbysuperstar posted:

That model quality is awful but I'm almost aghast at how bad those screenshots are. Did they "develop" the "game" on a 486? Jesus.

Looking at their other productions one might surmise that 'WTF Games' do not have an artist, and just source all their prefab/stock assets from the same exceedingly cursed bargain dumpster.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Gromit posted:

Given that the media about it makes it look like creeping on girls is much of the game, I'd expect there to be complaints that there isn't enough if it. You wouldn't be buying it in the first place if that wasn't your thing, right?

"This so-called 'magazine' is the worst I've ever bought, all pictures and words but no explosives. Not even like an article about bullets. 1/10"

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

ErrEff posted:

Based on how Valve has handled this stuff in the past, they distinguish "real" and "non-real" pornography. If something features images of real people doing it, you're definitely out.

Obviously this distinction gets murky when you use real actors but scan their performances and portray that data using 3D models.

The fact that Steam's staff isn't willing to give a detailed explanation of what they deem acceptable or how they define 'pornography' is hilarious, but I'm sure this could've gotten accepted if it was dressed up as a more traditional game experience.

I'd guess the reason valve never explains their decisions is that if they set a precedent establishing exactly where the lines are drawn, and if the public had access to the rationale behind why [X] is ok but [Y] is not; then valve would have to put some actual effort into making consistent decisions instead of being completely arbitrary, and they would be create the expectation of being more actively involved in content approval instead of sitting on their hands while the money flows in and occasionally reacting to whatever seems like bad PR or generates a lot of complaints.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

b_d posted:

the whole comment is full of cool ideas but i’m most intrigued by the notion that dildos are serious now. and harassment?

remember when the internet sent some braindamaged rednecks (illegally occupying a federal building) some joke care packages as support for their 'cause', which led to some videos of rightwing terrorists being really mad about dildos?

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Zereth posted:

Publisher. I checked and most of these games seem to be by different developers.

Also "Succubus" is listed on its store page as being published not by PlayWay but the dev themselves? Weird.
Some publishers do seemingly odd things, like where each game they publish ostensibly comes from a different developer but if you look at the game and click on the dev's name to see their catalog, for most of their titles it just redirects back to the publisher's page. Here's another example

Which would make sense if (hypothetically) the publisher is a vague production-association(?) of independent coders/artists/etc and they form a temporary-working-group for each project and then farm DLC/sequels or split to move on to the next thing, in which case the developer and publisher are technically different entities but they aren't exactly publishing third-party shovelware.

Also not unheard of for producers/publishers to acquire one or more development studios, along with any number of other situations that blur the line between "development" and "publishing" as distinct business operations.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

Rape without violence is the most common kind. A lot of people don't realize or don't consider some of that stuff rape which is why it's the focus of a lot of rape prevention courses in colleges etc. Going for enthusiastic consent instead of "well she didn't say 'No' while she was passed out drunk...", that kind of thing.

I think the issue is the wording "no violence of any kind, toward anyone." suggests the writer knows and acknowledges that the concept of 'violence' is not limited to physical-force... but that they do not consider that "rape without violence" itself is also a kind of violence

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Gynovore posted:

I went to the Succubus page again today (I have no life at all) and the "livestream" was still going on, same fortysomething woman with plastered on makeup. Which kinda leads me to believe that the "livestream" is actually a "recording", whose "purpose" is "to convince sweaty nerds that an actual woman had anything to do with the making of this game".

JOIN OUR DISCROD!!!

It isn't just that particular game/dev, Steam doesn't really seem to differentiate live broadcasts from stale reruns, everything gets the same superfluous 'now recording' indicators?


edit: ...which is to say the "now streaming" feature has always been misleading, at best.

silentsnack fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Oct 12, 2021

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

b_d posted:

part of the confusion for me was that the character in the pic is only blushing a little bit

the parts of her visible in the screenshot, yes. but maybe her feet are glowing with luminous heat that would put an RTG to shame?

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Terrible Inscrutable Gibberish: Your aunt will bring your eagle to unlock it!

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

That was only the case for like a year or so, when steam still technically banned porn but just didn't care enough to moderate it.
As you've probably seen in this thread, there's loads of full-on porn games now that don't require an outside patch.

Nah. Steam followed a don't-ask-don't-tell kinda thing for a while though. You couldn't link the nude patch on the actual store page, but you could sticky a link to your nude-patch website in the discussion forums just fine. Then for a few months they banned the forum thing too... but soon afterwards they just said "gently caress it porn games are allowed on steam now" and now the anime titties can come pre-installed.

I don't really know the target audience though, like there's no privacy features or anything on steam so even if you did want to buy porno all your friends would see that you've spent 100 hours playing it in the past week and a neat list of all your achievements?

One would think nude patches would still be a thing because Steam is not the entire universe, so there are still gonna be lots of platforms/distributors that refuse to sell porn (and/or can't because horny is illegal in their country) so there would still be a market for censored technically non-smut, plus developers might try to fly under the radar to avoid having their game tagged as [definitely porn] for a wide variety of reasons which mysteriously always translate into "money"


Also if someone wants to gameboob but is too embarrassed by the prospect of their mom/coworkers/etc knowing they've got porn games in their library, there's skyrim/slab/etc. :v:

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

OwlFancier posted:

I just think after a while it's just a palette swap, you stop unlocking new sex mechanics and you're just doing the same thing but sideways or painted pink.

imagine four dudes trying to figure out how to have a threesome on the edge of a cliff

math works the same way

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Hel posted:

Sure, but sometimes they are just tagged "Massively Multiplayer" instead, so you never know how many tags you need to ignore. And it isn't like the system treats tags as sub tags of others, so it's not enough to ignore " Card Game" you need all the subtypes like "Card Battler" "Trading Card Game" and so on.

Even that doesn't work because I've had "Point & Click" and "RPGMaker" and "Dating Sim" tags on my shitlist ever since valve added the """customize""" feature, said shovelware still shows up in my recommendations/queue whenever I look. The only difference it seems to make is that next to the meaningless ["we think you might like this because... it's a game that runs on PC!!!"] tagblob it adds an indicator saying ["oh but you said you weren't interested in this particular flavor of trash, yet you clicked 'view queue' anyway so here you go wiseguy"] and thus I am owned.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Captain Hygiene posted:

I think this game was an acceptable loss to learn that valuable life lesson

also, having it fail in the dumbest way possible provides far more entertainment than the alternative

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

ok cool as soon as i clicked that link i instantly saw an animated dog cock the size of my entire screen

if that's a problem maybe you should try turning on your monitor

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Zil posted:

What you don't like their pick of promotional desktop backgrounds?

When the product is primarily about cashing in on the Brand, with anything like ["actually getting a playable game for your money"] being at best a distant third priority.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

leper khan posted:

If they cut the sexualized violence you could probably make some arguments

that's like saying "if you ignore all the bad parts, the act of [giving oneself a lobotomy with a salad fork] can be a really positive experience"

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

gonna be a spectacular dramabomb when handheld girlfriend finds out about your cloud girlfriend subscription

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

ultrafilter posted:

Isn't that the wishlist icon?

eh some people wishlist thousands of things they have no interest in ever buying, for various reasons


I'm more curious about the clusterfuck of stacked watermarks that look designed to create image compression artifacts

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

leper khan posted:

Telling people to stop making GBS threads in public is contributing hth

if the only thing that matters is your sense of self-importance then yeah sure that helps; but if there isn't an actual making GBS threads-problem then all you're contributing is meaningless white noise. there is a difference.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

CommissarMega posted:

As awful as the nazi wannabe-horror game is... Mickey Mouse is public domain now? I'd have thought Disney would have had him on lockdown!

They did try, but when someone explicitly says "this work is based on the original steamboat willie cartoon" it's a lot less convincing for disney lawyers to argue it's actually referencing and infringing on the more recently-copyrighted Kingdom Hearts 2 segment.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Clarste posted:

Can't be used for filler NPCs either, unless you literally give zero shits about worldbuilding or immersion. In which case why do you have filler NPCs at all?

could still work if applied within a specific context, like if the intended theme is a dead world filled with broken robots just sortof existing with no meaning or purpose in endlessly imitating whatever input data they were given

or surreal satire in general?

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silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

The dirty secret about AI in games is that it doesn't exist. Even in games where it was a big selling point like Half-Life. It's just code made to respond to your actions like anything else in the game, combined with map nodes customized to each area. It can be made to feel more "real" with different states and RNG, but it needs to be dumbed down and not use the perfect information it has access to for the player to actually have a chance.

It isn't a secret at all though. It's not like there's some big myth that every chessbot is a fully sapient AGI that has been enslaved with a directive to play just badly enough to be beatable by a skilled human opponent.

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