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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Lol if you ain't down with the DSA.

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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THIS IS COINTELPRO ACE OF BAES IS A FED!

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Venom Snake posted:

So infowars is harassing my local campus socialists and DSA chapter. Shits hosed up.

You must send out the gay frogs.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

I love that this thread is allowing me to ID my SA comrades in the DSA slack. :devil:

loving Fed!

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Venom Snake posted:

We are inciting violence and preparing for a socialist uprising

:yeah:


YOU CAN CANT FOOL ME FED, IVE BEEN IN ENOUGH CULTS TO KNOW WHAT A STING LOOKS LIKE!

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Pollyanna posted:

25~30 ppl including the organizers, mostly dudes, quite a few trenchcoats

I read trenchcoats as technocrats and got nervous

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Fuckit put me in the OP for Oklahoma

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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CSPAM Hates Nerds

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Anime Schoolgirl posted:

isn't this more like one of those cases where it's the host trying to take back everything from the parasite though

Nah the Dems have always been a party for the elite.

I'd argue they tend to be more classist than Republicans.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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HorseRenoir posted:

Acting like "the Democrats" is some sort of foreign faraway entity and not a dumb group of clueless idiots you can influence and replace is stupid as hell

If you think that ousting incompetent clowns like Robby Mook from the Dem power structure is too hard of a task for you, then good luck accomplishing anything else

Lol when did I imply that?

I'm simply stating that the idea that Democrats have ever been left wing is bullshit. They only adopt left wing policies situationally.

I support attempts to replace Dem politicians where possible. Hell, I'm canvasing tomorrow.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Venom Snake posted:

We need someone to make one of those Osama mountain fortress edits but with Knights For Socialism

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Condiv posted:

could you go into more detail about this? or pm me? thanks

Seconded, I thought PP was on the up and up

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Ruzihm posted:

(reposting from the trump thread)



[source]

so basically keep being centrist nothings? cool strats.

Let's look outside the traditional mold of the first half of the 20th century to the traditional mold of the second half of the 20th century!

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Larry Parrish posted:

Alright Maria Svart appropriating y'allidarity is honestly far more annoying to me than anything else in the last month of DSA drama

Y'all's our word she isn't allowed to say it! :qqsay:


I'm being sincere btw

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Zenos Paradise posted:

National Physique Committee? :shrug:

I'm definitely open to more radical solutions too, if you'd like to share any suggestions.

The newest Cumtown had a bit about Joe Arpaio and they started talking about the militarization of the police. And Nick had a sober moment about how the idea of a shaved headed officer decked out like SWAT would never have crossed his mind as a child in the 90's. It's pretty hosed up how fast America broke it's own brain after 9/11

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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ThndrShk2k posted:

Well each area sent a dude to vote on their behalf at the convention, to vote for 16 people.
So through democracy, you -among many- were represented by your peers who are representing the many -upon many- chosen to represent you -the few-.


If that's not democratic socialism, I duno what is.

it's almost like the idea of representative democracy is dumb in an age with instant communication...

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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TrilliontonNixon posted:

Ignore the twitter bullshit. I'll bet this isn't even really a thing for like 95% of the membership. The locals do good work, don't let some online drama overshadow that.
You don't have to be a dues paying member to be active in the local DSA

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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TrilliontonNixon posted:

Again, there should be a space where discussion of this sort of thing can take place, and it's a failure on the part of the DSA that there isn't one.

um excuse me

your posting in it

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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apropos to nothing posted:

I really don't understand all the hate for democratic centralism. I see it all the time in this thread and when I meet DSA people irl they treat it like some weird boogie man. Democratic centralism is literally just democracy. We all vote on something, make a decision based on that vote, and then do the thing we voted on. if you disagree with the decision, you still have to abide by it but can continue to voice your displeasure and attempt to reverse the decision at another vote. The reason its a big deal that people abide by the decision even if they disagree is because if you're actively engaging in disruptive activity like civil disobedience, you need to have a group that you know won't have someone go against the decision of the group by punching a cop or throwing a brick through a window and potentially risk getting all of you arrested. It also means you can have faith that your comrades in other areas are operating in about the same fashion so there's no worry that an individual or a whole branch in somewhere like, oh who knows let's just say Austin Texas, is making your org look bad by doing stuff that the rest of the org would never do and finds reprehensible. like it's fine if you dont like the idea of democratic centralism, nobody is forcing you to use it or like it, but its not This One Weird Trick to Summon the Ghost of Stalin.

Tell that to the SR's

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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It's a great day to wake up and be proven right

you loving morons

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Welcum to the Revolutionary Communist Party

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Agean90 posted:

born in a mountain
raised in a cave
georgism and trucking
is all i crave

i only know about this from playing that one hoi4 mod with wobblie america

Funnily enough, Marx didn't like George's Single Tax because he thought it was a step backwards, dialectically. Marx thought enclosure of the commons was a necessary evil to transition from mercantilism to capitalism

Not that that matters since that national focus tree ends with "Syndicalism with American Characteristics", you loving revisionist

Serf posted:

it starts with shared commiseration. figure out what problems you have in common with the other person and relate how capitalism is causing them

Also try not to focus to hard on jargon or specifically trying to get someone to Socialism immediately. It's much easier to convince someone (preferably close to you) that the status quo (Capitalism) isn't working for them because it's currently working as intended. Once they figure that out, it's not as hard to make the leap to the alternative, socialism.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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I got mine in about 2 weeks. :shrug:

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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That's always guaranteed bait for Homex, it's funny how consistently he replies to that stuff with a pithy "lol"

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Ol Standard Retard posted:

while it is a sick Billy Bragg jam,

WTF!

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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bump_fn posted:

jfc lotta rich ppl itt

Don't worry, they're in the DSA system now I'm sure they'll go willingly to the gulags after Bernie does a military coup.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Greatbacon posted:

I mean, by that logic the image of the defiant Native American in face of the encroaching US is a bad symbol because the introduction of horses and guns were also tools of colonialism.

Like, it's not wrong, but man, the whole world has been shaped by colonialism. There's literally no escaping it's undertones in all facets of modern society. Sometimes bread just means we want to feed the world.



got any sevens posted:

he's right, but bread is delicious

is dsa a full splinter political party yet
have they started the second revolution?

Bread wasn't invented in Europe and it's not eurocentric wtf are you on about

Milled grains are a cornerstone of all agricultural societies

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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rudatron posted:

rice isn't a milled grain and has probably had a bigger impact on the world than wheat

But even then, the Chinese still have loving bread

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Stop being a pedant rudatron, you're better than this

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Montana looking like good gulag territory

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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GunnerJ posted:

Refoundation. What are you doing.



This logo looks like it belongs to a hockey team.

I see :dong:

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Phi230 posted:

Having no theory to back up your practice just makes you a lib. All flailing no results

Good thing we have anime, then

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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apokaladle posted:

also maybe someday we can acknowledge that the dirtbag leftism embodied by the chapo crew among others helps reinforce an atmosphere where bigotry can flourish under the auspices of crudeness much like certain other transgressive spaces

I doubt crudeness is driving anyone to bigotry that weren't already there.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Vhak lord of hate posted:

Eject anyone in the DSA with over 1k followers, they're undoubtedly a sex creep

Finally, someone speaks sense

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Karl Barks posted:

the first step in the revolution is de-industrializing the US. so that we can then re-industrialize it

Turns out Reagan was the deepest cover socialist of all time

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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apropos to nothing posted:

all the dsa people I've met and worked with irl are very nice and work well with other groups so I'm not sure why everybody itt is so sectarian. seems like every page somebody is making GBS threads on the iso or psl or some group

ISO is an extremely funny organization.

It's very hard not to mock them, even if they weren't actively attempting to poach members

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Goon Danton posted:

Why did they do that? Are they mourning the loss of the USSR? Is fun counterrevolutionary?

Why would trots mourn the fall of a degenerate workers state?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Vhak lord of hate posted:

there was to a big socialist halloween/oct revolution party where the theme was "wear red and have a good time" and they sat at a back table dressed entirely in black and spent the whole time handing out pamphlets and frowning.

i will never not think that is funny

This reads like a portlandia skit.

God bless them

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Zegermans new gimmick is being an unironic Trot

What a heel turn

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

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Annual Prophet posted:

everyone wanted to pick his brain on that

:drat:

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