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peanut- posted:It probably won't really. Some banking functions will be moved, but financial centres are sticky and comprised of people that are quite happy where they are. The back office stuff that mostly doesn't happen in central London is much more at risk. Its more than just leverage for Britain in talks, it also provides an impetus for the EU nations to ensure that its completed as quickly as possible. Hence why various EU countries have asked that talks should have already started as many are very worried about the affect that reducing the options to liquidity for business that access to the London capital markets provide. Spain just last week raising this point, along with Italy and various Eastern European countries have all raised this issue has to be resolved as quick as possible. So its safe to assume an interim banking deal very early on in the BREXIT talks, assuming France doesn't do a France and try and block everything.
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This thread has found a new low. Catheter chat is far worse than Train or Rowing chat.
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Collective insanity could break out across Europe where they seek the destruction of the whole world instantly, so its more like 1/∞ to be fair.
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jBrereton posted:It's also worth pointing out that house prices in Yorkshire are very variable. A three bed with a garden can set you back £300,000 or more in York, which will buy you about two streets in Hull. If you want the most extreme example of price differences that is probably Skipton and Nelson. Small towns 10 miles apart but one is in Yorkshire other is in Lancashire, one will set you back almost Harrogate prices for houses while the other has some of the cheapest houses in the UK e.g. you can get a 3 bed Terrace for £35,000 in Nelson. Nelson also has great transport links around Lancashire and its slightly pretty, but its suffered extreme white flight, hence why house prices are so low. ukle fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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If there is any truth to these rumours, surely the most logical time would be after May triggers article 50. It would mean that the new leader won't have any of that on their hands when they take over.
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Pissflaps posted:I think it's bobbins tbh. Agreed, it would make too much sense for him to quit now.
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44% of the people who currently say they would vote Labour don't even want Corbyn as PM. That's about as damning a statistic as you could realistically have in how little Corbyn is liked. ukle fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Feb 17, 2017 20:21
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MikeCrotch posted:This is bad for Corbyn It is amazing that UKIP have shown that Labour aren't the most disorganised political party. Farage may have been a miracle worker keeping that shambles in check for so long. Only the conservatives are the only national party with any effective organisation any more; Labour are a mess, UKIP are imploding, and the Lib Dems are none existent. Its so surprising considering the turmoil in the Tories prior to the Brexit vote.
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Feb 20, 2017 12:13
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learnincurve posted:Corbin is the best thing that's happened to the Tory party since Kinnock. That is severely insulting to Kinnock. Kinnock was a bad choice to run the party for many reasons for so long, but he is not Corbyn bad. Their really isn't anyone in British political history as bad a leader as Corbyn. The country is falling apart, outside of Brexit, and yet the Conservatives are storming at the polls all thanks to Corbyn - as he has a VERY negative image with the general populous, so even if he was a natural leader, which he is far from, he would still not be able to lead the Labour party.
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Feb 21, 2017 00:24
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Pissflaps posted:This would have fascinating implications for Brexit. Not just Brexit, but Europe as a whole. It will change the landscape of Europe completely; its actually quite shocking how well she is doing lately as she does seem the most competent politician in France. Also tomorrows by election results are due around 2am, BBC has a This Week special running too at least 3am, if you feel like staying up and watching / setting your alarms.
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Feb 22, 2017 10:46
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Jippa posted:I don't know how french politics works but isn't La Pen predicted to do well in the first bit then lose the second bit. I remember them discussing it on newsnight last week. She was, but then her opponents keep being poo poo while she keeps doing manoeuvres that are increasing her popularity.
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Feb 22, 2017 11:25
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Just a FYI in case you not seen the weather - https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/834348246319394816 This storm has potential for a Red Warning to be issued for the North West as some of the weather models are showing it with 90+ MPH gusts around Merseyside, with 80+ MPH widely in land. Might want to check your trees, etc especially if you are in the North West.
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Feb 22, 2017 11:56
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Anyone who thinks that by now the posting of council by-elections in this is anything but some kind of meta-trolling really is just showing the utter contempt and lack of respect they have for the other posters in this thread if they think they really are that stupid to take them as some kind of super important result. 30% turnout would be impressive given how poo poo Stoke's turnout is in General Elections. My guess is its going to be around 25% turnout.
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Not to bang a drum about it but tomorrows storm is going to be a bad one. The midday weather model runs are showing it having almost 90 mph gusts over large sections of the UK. If anything the existing met warning areas will be increased, and if it carries on like this I bet the met issues a red warning for a few spots. This could be a historic storm. If you have any trees / anything susceptible to wind check it tonight, especially if you are in the North West, Midlands or East Anglia.
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EmptyVessel posted:So stop booing on about it here then. Out of curiosity what is Corbyn doing?
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Hope nobody needs to use the Trains today - https://twitter.com/VirginTrains/status/834735246553841664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw London Euston is now shut, think Paddington has issues as well. Lines closed all over the network, and its still 3 hours or so before the worst hits London, etc.
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The raw data from that Yougov polling of peoples opinion of significant Labour MP's is really interesting. https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/5611f0zc0v/InternalResults_170212_LabourLeadership_W.pdf Some interesting points Dan Jarvis, Lisa Nandy, and Angela Rayner aren't well know at all. Anyone who is none white is disliked by UKIP voters, although Clive Lewis doesn't do too badly with them - he isn't well liked with Conservative voters though, but then again hardly anyone is. Only Sadiq Khan, Kier Starmer and Hillary Benn have passable ratings with Tory voters (out of the MP's that at least 15% of the people polled knew of). Less than 1/3rd of the people polled knew who John McDonnell was / knew enough about them to pass an opinion.
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Feb 23, 2017 16:46
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Taear posted:Looks like someone spelled "depressing" wrong. If anything its shows its not depressing for Labour, but very optimistic - IF they get rid of Corbyn, and choose someone who isn't as hated. The polling shows that out of those asked about only a few of the Labour MP's are really hated - Corbyn, McDonnell, Milliband, Watson, and Thornberry.
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Junior G-man posted:Never forget that the public, i.e. most people, don't read the papers and aren't nearly as obsessed as we tend to be. He is also shockingly well known with almost 2/3rds of those polled giving an opinion about him, so he is well liked generally as that almost 0 overall score is about as good as you can realistically get given how polarized our politics has become. I would love to see what the Labour membership view of him is, I bet its significantly more negative.
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forkboy84 posted:*Checks the TV guide, sees that there is over 3 hours of This Week on tonight* But they have a cute dog there as well. Still its better to just set an alarm for 2am and miss all the pointless poo poo.
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So the take from the nights results are UKIP are dead, and people are voting Tory as the they see them as the only option. The Tories would probably have won in Stoke FFS, if they had put the resources into trying to win the seat. Corbyn really has to go as this country is heading towards a 1 party state, we need an effective opposition not a protest party.
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TACD posted:Basic income (paid for by taxing the rich). Land value tax and/or empty property tax. There's no shortage of simple and good policies around which to base a strategy of constantly reminding people that it is Rich Bastards who are responsible for things being shite. Labour have a really easy way to appeal to the masses and it goes back to what Labour was originally set up for i.e. to support the workers. Make it so that people who are earning the regional median wage can afford to buy a house where they live, and that they can have a good quality of life. At present this is significantly broken in large parts of the country, hence why Stoke etc feel left behind as they are the have nots under the current system and have no way of getting out of this rut. Institute McDonnells idea of regional owned housing corporations to build new houses on mass, but allow people to have the right to buy them after 10 years. Its the only effective way of solving the housing crisis without also tanking house prices, and also enabling those who feel left behind by the current system to feel part of the country again. Also put a hold on all but essential immigration in a region until this metric is met.
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mehall posted:Can't do that for very important reasons. The problem is Labour have already lost the immigration argument, and now need to embrace it as its by far the biggest issue for a significant section of the voting populous. Turning the argument to be one that is fazed around that immigration needs to be controlled at a level where the country can support it would 'one up' the Tories as they already are indicating that they aren't going to stop much immigration (e.g. David Davis's comment still need for low skilled / low paid immigrants post Brexit). It would also make UKIP completely irrelevant. As to what to do in a region once the levels are met, if its managed by a completely none political organisation ala the Bank of England, and they make the decisions then its out of any parties hands. Pissflaps posted:In 'safe' labour seats maybe. After last night, I am not sure their are many safe Labour seats as the Tories are going to pounce on the missed opportunity in Stoke and try and make sure it doesn't happen again.
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Fans posted:The leadership challenge will come from one of the MPs who voted against article 50 which actually rules out Dan Jarvis. It's probably gonna be a 2010 MP Its going to be Clive Lewis if the rumours are true of Owen Smith and others trying to get him to stand. Dan Jarvis is far to unknown with the general populus and will give another sense of 'who' that Owen Smith had when he stood, while Clive Lewis has been in the news, doesn't have a bad rating and appears to have a good rating with the membership. ukle fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Tesseraction posted:Corbyn's unpopularity is not the One Small Thing stopping Labour being an electoral behemoth. Its stopping potentially 13% more people nationally from voting for Labour based on polling. 13% is a colossal amount in the FTP system and would take Labour into a majority government.
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Fans posted:One of the relative unknowns from 2010 is my bet Going on the betting markets there are only 2 names in it - Clive Lewis and Keir Starmer. Keir isn't an unknown and he isn't from 2010 as he became an MP in 2015, Keir's odds are so low it makes me wonder if there is a challenge forming.
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https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/836154494870241280 https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/836163287171620865 The Labour leadership really are a farce. ukle fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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