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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Lid posted:

The deputy prime minister, Barnaby Joyce, says it is “morally prudent” for Australia to build new coal-fired plants and he would have no problem if taxpayers provided support.

God he's a real piece of poo poo.

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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Jesus christ.

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Oct 11, 2007

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Bernardi is an awful piece of poo poo and him leaving the libs will help them rather than harm them.

In terms of sabotaging the libs he was much better off making them look like the regressive arseholes they are than being on his own and getting electorally ruined.

EDIT: The groundswell he's talking about isn't conservative it's protectionist and there's a big difference.

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Oct 11, 2007

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ewe2 posted:

I think it's too early to tell, it greatly depends on who he gets to come with him. I was looking at the SA Libs page and there's 4 in the HR and 4 in the Senate and perhaps there's a couple from WA. I would be most interested in any Nats jumping ship, but George is much more likely to join One Nation than Bernardism.

How will it play out? Well nobody expected the ALP to split the way it did in the 50's. And never forget that the Liberals are really a hodgepodge of conservative traditions stuck together to beat the ALP. Regular flaking off as purity is demanded over pragmatism should be expected.

But you're right, it's radical protectionist xenophobia, not a "return to values".

My view is that very few people really wants to smash the gays and women into the dirt, we like those people, we just don't like all our jobs vanishing and getting ripped off constantly by "free trade deals" that make everyone locally lose their jobs in order for big companies to make fatter profits and pay workers less.

I met a few dyed in the wool trump supporters through work and that was all they were talking about, jobs and corporations. Not women and gays and abortions.

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Les Affaires posted:

Its a shame but the NBN would have gone a long way to solve it, mostly by making industries that rely on human labour but not physical presence able to move to wherever in Australia is cheapest. Tasmania has a substantial amount of public department work in part because it is worthless cheaper than other places to pay workers there a wage that pays over and above the cost of living, and as a bonus is a form of regional subsidy. Other towns in Australia having decent access to internet would be able to make a decent shot at competing for work like this.

What stops this from moving overseas?

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Everyone tearing shreds off Bernardi is loving great.

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Oct 11, 2007

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MR BERNARDI WHY DO YOU AND OTHER PROMINENT CHRISTIANS REFUSE TO CONDEMN THE CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE PERFORMED BY YOUR CHURCH?

EDIT: WHEN ARE WE GOING TO INCREASE MONITORING OF CATHOLICS TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN?

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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He strikes me as rather like that Labor guy who retired because the party would be supporting gay marriage. Principled, but a regressive fuckhead.

If he was concerned with electability or his own career he wouldn't be spouting the abominable poo poo he does.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Amazing watching these two mealy mouthed idiots having a slap fight.

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Oct 11, 2007

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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Technically it's in keeping with the latest sociological research. No point treating youth like adults if due to the way the economy is structured they have no way of reaching the benefits or responsibilities of being adult.

Surely it's just so they can pull their benefits if their parents earn money.

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Oct 11, 2007

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hiddenmovement posted:

I would be in that 50% and I interpreted it the way you did. Its a work life balance thing, not a cry for a boss to gently caress me over

The BCA interprets everything as a cry for a boss to gently caress you over.

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Oct 11, 2007

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Lid posted:

A Coalition senator is threatening to oppose his own government's plan to axe the notorious Life Gold Pass – which gives former MPs free business-class travel on the taxpayer – saying it's time someone stood up for politicians.

Queensland backbencher Ian Macdonald says politicians work extremely hard and don't get paid particularly well for their efforts.

Senator Macdonald – who is paid a salary of $200,000 a year as a backbencher

Hilarious Hills To Die On for $400

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH oh my loving god.

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Lid posted:

As I said in our party room the other day: I do not want to indicate what was said in the party room but these are my own thoughts, not the party room’s thoughts especially. It is about time our leaders – all of our leaders, and Senator Di Natale would be a good start – started emphasising how much work politicians do, how much commitment most of the people who sit in this parliament – most, I might add – have. They are here because they believe in Australia and they believe that they can make a contribution to Australia. By the standards in the community they do not get particularly well-paid, and there are hundreds of examples of that.

Someone has to stand up, rather than just Senator Ludlam joining the populist theme and denigrating by innuendo everybody in this chamber and the other chamber, and start arguing for politicians, arguing for parliamentarians, saying why they are there.

Most parliamentarians – or those on this side – would have done infinitely better financially staying in their legal practice, staying in their business, staying in their veterinary practice, staying in the jobs they had before. That is not why they have come into this chamber.

I will be talking on this again in another bill coming up, where I will be opposing my government and again moving amendments.

Good, stay there then you loving piece of poo poo.

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thatfatkid posted:

Wow One Nation actually expressing a sensible opinion while the ALP guy acts like a child. What a time to be alive...

Putin, strong man, standing up for his country, decriminalizing domestic violence.

Also "everyone's done something" is the dumbest possible stance to take on lovely actions by other countries.

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The leader of a country is generally held responsible for the consequences of the actions that country takes.. yes.

EDIT: No it was literally the content of what she said. Her tone was fine, the content was poo poo.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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I'm just going to be super clear here, this is my problem with Hanson's statements.

Russia oppresses gays, women, members of the opposition, journalists, meddles in foreign elections, funds and supplies separatists in Ukraine and recently annexed Crimea and as a result of this foreign adventurism has had massive sanctions put on Russia seriously damaging their economy which were Putin not a shithead, he could have entirely avoided.

When Pauline Hanson says she likes him "as a person who stands up for his country and he fights for his country…as a strong leader for his country." she's a wrong idiot because he routinely oppresses Russians, doesn't stand up for them, and his adventurism has seriously damaged their economy.

When she says on MH17 "You are picking out something, do you think that everything that our prime ministers have done has been in the best interests? " She is again wrong because it was clearly a bad thing, done by all accounts by Russian separatists, who are supplied and supported by Russia and that Russia has blocked the investigation of. Our leaders have done things so we can never be critical of things other leaders do is a lovely dumb policy and exactly the thoughts behind appeasement and turning a blind eye to genocides.

This isn't that complicated. They are dumb, lovely comments because their content is dumb and lovely, not because they were said by Pauline Hanson.

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I'm happy to agree to disagree with you on that one, but the MH17 bit? The bit where she thinks it's a good idea not to criticise any foreign power for being lovely? You don't think that might be a little bit of a dumb thing to say?

I mean look you're pretty attached to the idea of this thread being a big hive of uncritical groupthink but sometimes you get riled up at the wrong things.

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thatfatkid posted:

I'm not sure where this fascist impression of me is coming from. It's genuinely quite perplexing how the supposedly left-wing "liberal" types that populate this thread so readily assume one is a fascist because they don't totally comply with the groupthink of the thread.

thatfatkid posted:

lol @ trying to paint Putin as an aggressor re: Ukraine/Crimea

:allears:

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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The great thing about WA is that we didn't privatise our power grid yet unlike the rest of you idiots. So we don't run into all the horrible power supply issues like the rest of you idiots.

Fake Edit: The joke is that the libs are currently trying to privatise our power grid.

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I would congratulate Queensland, but yeah, man you guys got a whole lot more problems than a lovely gold plated grid.

EDIT: I say this but we're probably gonna elect pauline over here so :suicide:

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Oct 11, 2007

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It's good both parties are being made to look like the rank power grabbing opportunists that they are.

It's bad because it will probably deliver the libs yet another loving term over here during which they will privatise our power grid.

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open24hours posted:

It still blows my mind that these preference deals actually make a difference. I can't even begin to understand the mindset of someone who fills out their ballot based on a how to vote card.

Australians elected Tony Abbott, I mean we're not great on critical thinking here.

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Oct 11, 2007

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Anidav posted:

Boat isn't a race mate

Sydney to Hobart begs to differ.

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Oct 11, 2007

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gay picnic defence posted:

A Shooters, Fishers and Farmers rep just joined the fishing forum I'm on , what would be the best way to troll him. He's already claimed that having guns is the only thing stopping the socialists from banning fishing.

Lifejackets while rock fishing.

EDIT: Why are socialists anti-fishing? Surely they'd want people fishing in order to share the fish around, right?

EDIT: Next thing you know those socialists will be sharing fish and bread with people like some kind of filthy disgusting Jesus.

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Oct 11, 2007

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hahahahah

"outlaw negative gearing"

Jesus these guys have such weaselly language. Oh we have a budget problem maybe we should stop giving people a massive discount on their tax just because they own an appreciating asset? Maybe we should get rid of the massive concessions for flipping that appreciating asset? Maybe we should do all this because we have a housing bubble and totally unaffordable housing?

NAH WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE ALL THOSE MUMS AND DADS OUTLAWS

EDIT: As if negative gearing is some natural thing that they're banning rather than a loving tax break they're phasing out.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Nobody likes, nobody likes, nobody likes a liberal.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Wow Ian McDonald continues to be a grade A piece of poo poo.

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Oct 11, 2007

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JBP posted:

I can't get into me old account because I registered it as a teen with my teen email RIP. Is LF back yet?

LF Never Left.

Also good to see you back!

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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God even Queensland feminists are hosed up idiots.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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I think the problem in Mr. Kenny's eyes is that they were shouting at the moon instead of howling.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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I've been kicked out of a class for refusing to stop arguing with a teacher. He was trying to teach us at an all boys school in 1999 that AIDS was a gay only problem (using data from the US from the 1980's). One of my friends also got kicked out for refusing to let it go. I also got kicked out of class once for shooting spitballs, so I guess I'm only a 50% young liberals candidate.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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I sure am glad we let his influence on the LNP to save his dying business gut the NBN.

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open24hours posted:

I think a lot of people forget that social housing was once for the working class, not just the destitute. It's a shame no one is arguing for a return to that sort of model.

and undercut the profits of our rent seeking parasites wise negatively geared housing investors? Never.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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"The Bligh appointment has angered government MPs, with some claiming the ABA had evaporated any remaining goodwill within the Coalition partyroom."

Good, I look forward to that banking royal commission as well as tightening of regulations.

Might as well raise the corporate tax rate while you're at it.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Doctor who isn't high art but it's enjoyable for what it is, and better than most offerings on commercial TV.

Especially reality tv :itwaspoo:

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Anidav posted:

Should I put my net worth in another currency too?

Here's your 1 euro sir.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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You know how stagflation is the great boogieman of Keynsian economics.

What do you can what we have now? With flat wage growth and the most productive parts of the economy being rentseeking?

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Never thought I'd see that particular worm turn.

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Oct 11, 2007

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Solemn Sloth posted:

The FWC even said that many people currently rely on penalty rates just to make ends meet, but who gives a gently caress. Guillotine the loving lot IMO

This will adversely affect workers but improve trading hours!

That's the best outcome right? RIGHT? *works in gina's mine for 2$ a day*

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Oct 11, 2007

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Guardian AU posted:

It found gas generation failed at EnergyAustralia’s Tallawarra power plant on the NSW south coast owing to faults with the turbines. The Colongra gas-fired plant, owned by Snowy Hydro, was unable to start because of low gas pressure in its supply lines.

Output was also reduced from two of AGL’s 500MW coal-fired power units at the Liddell power station.

The combined failures left about 2,000MW unavailable during the peak period of demand. A number of thermal generators also reduced their output, while solar and wind generation reduced by 300MW in line with forecasts for that time of the day.

:lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/23/gas-fired-power-plants-failed-during-nsw-heatwave-report-reveals

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